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LOK SABHA
DEBATES

(Fifth Series)

Vol. XVIll

[ August 14 to August 28, 1972/Sravana 23 to Bhadry 6, 1894 (Saka)}

Fifth Session, 1972/1894 (Saks)

(Vol. XV III contains Nos, 11—20 )

LOK SABHA SECRETARIAT
NEW DELHI

CONTENTS

[Fifth Series— Vol XVIII , 5th Session, 1972]

No. 1 1 — Monday. August 14, \m;Sravana 2.1. 1 894 (Saka)

Obituary Reference —

Death of Shrimati Minimata

Agamdius Guru .

Columns

1-10

Shrimati Indira Gandhi

•

1-2

Shri Dasaratha Deb

2-3

Shri S M. Banerjee

Shri G. Viswanathan

•

3-4

Shri Tagannathrao losln .

Shu Shyamnandan Mishra

4-5

Piof Madhu Dandavate

Shn Ebiahim Sulaiman Sail

Shri Arvind Nctam .

•

Shri R. S Pandey

6-7

Dr Ciovind Das

Shri R. D Bhandare

•

7-8

Shri "Shrikrishna Agaiwal

Shri Ramkanwar.

LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA

Monday* August 14. I912lbrauwa 23,
1894 (Saka)

l he Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the
Clock.

[Mu. Snt'AKtR in the Chan]
OBITUARY REFERENC E

MR SPEAKER: Honourable ment-
hols, I have to inform the House of the
tragjc dernnse of S'hnmatt Mmimatu
\gam Dass Gum who passed avvav in
an ail crash near Delhi on the night of
Nth August 1972. at the age of %

Shnmuli Again Da^s Guiu was a
silting member ol lok Sabha Irom
lanjgu constituency ol Madhya Pri-
desh. She had also been a member of
I ii si. Second. 1 bird and Fouilh lok
Sabha from 1953 to 1970. She was so
calm and gentle and was respected In
one and all. Coming from the back-
ward stiata of our society, during her
long membership of Lok Sabha. she
always championed the cause of Hari-
jans, women and depressed classes and
spoke tor eradication of social evils like
the dowiy system, child marriage and
untouchabihty . Whenever she took part
m the proceedings, she used to impress
the House very much by hei dedication
lo her ideals and sincciity in her ap-
proach. She was associated with a
number of social welfaic and educatio-
nal institutions m her State

We deeply mourn her loss and I am
sure the House will lom me in convey-
ing our condolences to the bereaved
family.

THE PRIME MINISTER, {lINIS-
IER OF ATOMIC ENERGY. MINIS-
TER OF ELECTRONICS, MINISTER
OF HOME AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF
INFORMATION AND BROADCAST-
ING AND MINISTER OF SPACE
IfSHRIMAT I INDIRA GANDHI) :
[Sir, this is a sad occasion for us all and
points once again to the uncertainty of
life.

Shrimati Minimata was a fine example
of Indian womanhood. Jl was my privi-
lege to know her closely for many years
Soft-spoken and dignified, simple in her
habits, yet firm in her convictions and
effective in her work, she was an un-
failing champion of the cause of the
weak and the downtrodden. She com-
manded the respect of this House and
of the public for her sincerity, her ear-
nestness of purpose and sense of
dedication. She had been, as you, Sir,
have mentioned, a Member of Parlia-
ment for 20 years and was the senior-
most woman Member.

Although one <jf the quieter members,
she was articulate on subjects which
interested her, aifc her participation in
discussions was always impressive and
to the point.

She was equally active in work in her
c mstituency, as iegai ds various problems
ol Madhya Pradesh, the problems of
evils which exist in our society and
those of the Scheduled Castes and
Scheduled Tribes all over the country.

Death is always sorrowful but u is
specially so on this occasion when it
has come so suddenly and in suen a
giuesome manner. Shrimati Minimata
was commg to Delhi to be with us today
and tomorrow to join the 25th anouer-
sar> functions

Her demise is a loss to Parliament
and to us all. 1 feel it as a personal
loss. We are all deeply grieved and
i equest you, Str, to convey our condo-
lences to her family.

SHRI DASARATHA DEB (Tripura
Fust) : This is a very sad occasion and
on behalf of my Party, the Communist
Party of India (Marxist) and on my
behalf, I fully associate myself* with the
sentiments of deep sorrow expressed by
the Prime Minister and you at the tragic
death of .Shrimati Minimata Again Dass
Guru, a Member of this House smee
1953.

1 happen to know Shrimati Mmim ita
very closely as we were neighbour
while 1 was staving in North Avenue

Obituary Reference

AUGUST U, 1972

Obituary Reference

IShn Dasaratha Deb]
from 1953 to J 961 - She was very allec-
tionate to the children also and she
worked among the Scheduled Castes and
Scheduled Tribes and Hanjans parti-
cularly.

As far as l know, she was a veteran
social worker, confining hci woik main-
ly to the backward classes people, and
her death is a great loss to the country

] request you to convey our deep con-
dolences to the beieaved larnily of
Shrimati Minimata.

SHRJ S M. BANERJEE (Kanpur):
Mr. Speaker, Sir, 1 knew Shrimati
Minimata since the day I entered Parlia-
ment m 1957. To me, she was an em-
blem of simplicity Her heart bled lor
the common man, specially lor those
who are downtrodden and whom society
has not given a proper'place even today

She was connected vfilh so many wel-
fare organisations I remember how
when in this House the question of atro-
cities on Harijan women came up, she
reacted. I also remember when less
time was given for discussion ol the
Reports of the Commissioner lor Sche-
duled C astes and Scheduled 1 nbes.
though a calm lady, an emblem ol
patience, she rose to the height and
demanded more discussion.

It is most unfortunate she did not
meet a natural death. It reminds me ol
the tragic and untimely death of the
Member for Kanpur, the late lamented
Shn Hanharnath Shastri, in similar
circumstances

On behalf of my Party and on my
own behalf, I express my heartfelt con-
dolences and request you to kindly
convey the same to the family of
Shrimati Minimata.

SHRI G VISWANATHAN (Wandi-
wash) . It is a sad occasion that on this
25th amiiversaiy of our independence,
we have lost one of our seniormost
members

We hav^ had many occasions to work
with Shrimati Minimata in various capa-
cities in the House and outside and in
committee meetings. The fact that she
was elected for five consecutive terms
from the same constituency to this
House shows her popularity and in-
fluence among the public, particularly
the tribal areas.

On behalf of my- Party and on my
own behalf, I associate myself with the
deep sorrow expressed by you and re-
quest you to convey our condolences to
the bereaved family.

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(Rajapur) Mr. Speaker, Sir. all death
is sad but the pangs of death become
more sorrowful when the death comes
in such a gruesome manna. Here was
a lady who tried to end the trageuy of
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On behalf of the Socialist Parly, I
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to convey the condolences to the mem-
bcis of the bereaved family.

SHR1 EBRAH1M SU LAI MAN SAI I
(Kozhikode) : Mi. Speaker, Sn. 1 asso-
ciate myself with the sentiments of grid
and sorrow expressed by yourself, the
Prune Minister and other colleagues m
this House on the sad demise of
Shrimatt Mimmata in tragic circumstan-
ces. Wc all know very well that she
was a lady of admirable qualities: she
was dignitied, modest and simple and
served the depressed and the downtrod-
den with earnestness and zeal. Her
passing away is a great loss not only
to the backward classes but to the
country as a whole.

I convey to the bereaved family,
through you, our deep sympathies, and
on my behalf and on behalf of my
Group, the Muslim League, I lequest
you to convey our feelings of sorrow
and grief to the members of the bereav-
ed family.

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( entral) . Mr. Speaker, Sir, we deeply
mourn the death of Shrimuti Mimmata,
a leltgious head of the Satnami sect of
the Hindu community. It is true that
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souls, who have 'always served the com-
m unity, pass away in a tragic manner,
we arc full of nohow and we feel that
trom amongst us wc have lost a burn-
ing fire and light which used to guide
the down-trodden and under-privileged.
She was a great social worker, as men-
tioned by the Pf nnc Minister, and by

you. Sir, and by other hon. Members.
But she was calm and unassuming both
in this House and outside. But within
that calm and unassuming attitude, there
was lire constantly burning against in-
justice, Since she was serving the com-
munity her soul is bound to rest in
peace. I pay my humble tribute and
homage to her.

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MR. SPEAKER : As a mark of res-
pect lo Ivor memory, the House will stand
in silence foi a short while,

Menihas then .stood in silence fot a
a hotiw kite

MR. SPEAKER : In view of the
death of Shnmati Minimata under very
tragic circumstances, which we all heard
with great shock, in view also of the
fact that she is one of the oldest mem-
bers of our Lok Sabfta, associated with
all the Lok Sabhas after 1952, as desir-
ed by many friends and hon. Members
of this House, 1 propose to adjourn the
House now' as a mark of sorrow and
respect lo her memory

AN HON MEMBER : What about
the function m the Central Hall?

MR. SPEAKER , I hat will be theie.
Of course, we ha\e cut out all the other
programmes except the speeches by the
President, Vice-President, Prime Minis-
ter and myself. The cultural pro-
gramme, dinner etc. have been cancelled
fhe programme in the Central Hall for
one hour starting at 1 1 p.m will be
ihere. We will now adjourn till 11 am
on Wednesday

11.25 hrs.

7 he Lok Sahhu then adjoin net! till
Lleven of the Clock on Wednesday ,
August 16, (972 ' Havana 25, 1894

Saka),

CONTENTS

No. 12 — Wednesday , August 16, 1972/Sravana 25 % 1894 (Saka)

Columns

Welcome to Speaker of Fiji b # 1

Oral Answers to Questions —

•Starred Questions Nos. 223 to 228, 231, 232, 234 and 235 . . 1—26

Written Answers to Questions —

Starred Questions Nos. 201 to 222, 229, 230, 233 and 236 to 240 . . 26—46

Unstarrcd Questions Nos. 1980 to 2049, 2051 to 2067, 2069 to 2121* 2123
to 2184, 2186, 2187, 2189 to 2215, 2217 to 2253, 2255 to 2^0 and
2352 to 2379 . , 46—309

Re. Motion for Adjournment * ^ # 309 16

Calling Attention to Matter of Urgent Public Importance —

Reported failure of the Government to complete Farakka Barrage,

as scheduled b # 317 — 43

Re. Presentation of Tamra Patras to Freedom Fighters . . 343 — 44

Re. Business of the House p b 344 — 46

Papers laid on the Table . . 346 — 51

Statement correcting answer to S. Q. No. 14 re. behaviour of Doctors in

Delhi Hospitals towards victims of a car accident . , 351

Shri lima Shankar Dikshit # # 351

Statement re. Crash of an Indian Airlines Fokker Friendship Aircraft

near Palam Airport on 11.8.1972 . . 351 — 53

Dr. Karan Singh . . 352 — 53

Indian Iron and Steel Company (Taking over of Management) Bill —

Introduced . . 353 — 54

Statement re. Indian Iron and Steel Company (Taking Over of Manage-
ment) Ordinance, 1972 . . 354 — 55

Shri Shahnawaz Khan . . 354

Disturbed Areas (Special Courts) Bill —

Motion to refei to Joint Committee — Adopted . . 355 — 58

Income-tax (Amendment) Bill-

Motion to consider . . 358 — 65

ShriR. V. Bade *• . / 358-61

Shri N. K. P. Salve . . 361—64

Shri K. Baladhandayutham . . 365

Motion re. Separate Central Schemes for Development of Backwaid Areas . , 365—409

Shri Nathu Ram Ahirwar • . 366 — 73

•The sign + marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question was actually
asked on the floor of the House by that Member.

Columns

Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu ■ • d/o— /»

Shri P. Venkatasubbaiah • • 379

Shri P. K. Deo • • ■ 382—85

Shri Dinesh Chandra Gosw ami •• 87

Shri Jhaikhande Rai 387—92

Shri K. D. Malaviya • • 392—94

Shri B. K. Daschowdhury • • 394—97

Shri D. N. Tiwary • • 399—403

Shri R. R. Sharma •• 403—06

Shri Chiotamani Panigrahi ■ • ^

^alf-an-Hour Discussion —

Normalisation of relations with China • • 20

Shri Samar Guha * * 409—13

Shri Swaran Singh * * ^ ^

LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA

Wednesday, August 16, 1972/Sravana 25, 1894
(Saka)

The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the Clock .

[Mr. Speaker in the Chair ]

WELCOME TO SPEAKER OF FIJI

MR. SPEAKER : I have great pleasure
in welcoming in the Special Box the Hon’ble
Speaker, Mr. R D. Patel, of the House of
Representatives of Fiji. As you know, Fiji
got its independence the year before last year.
He is the first Speaker of independent Fiji.
He is our distinguished guest. I, on behalf of
you all, again extend to him a very hearty
welcome, and also to Madam Patel who is
also present along with him in the Special
Box I wish him a very happy stay in this
country. This is his old country and we
assure him that we treat him as one of us.

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS

Accumulation of Wealth by Class I and
Class D Officers of the Central Govern-
ment

*223. SHRI S. N. MISRA : Will the
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state :

(a) the number of searches and seizures
made in 1970-71 and 1971-72 in respect of
Class I and Class II Officers of the Central
Government about their suspected accumula-
tion of wealth by corrupt means ; and

(b) whether properties and assets of any
of these officers have been confiscated ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and (b).
Searches and seizures were made in 12 instan-
ces in 1970-71 and in 25 instances in 1971-72
during investigation into allegations of suspec-
ted accumulation of wealth by corrupt means
hy Glass I and Claw II Officers, including

officers of the Public Undertakings under the
Central Government. No property or assets
of the officers concerned were confiscated.

SHRI S. N. MISRA : May I know from
the hon. Minister how many of them were
Class I, how many of them were Class II and
how many of them were from the Public
Undertakings ? Also, I want to know what
was the amount seized from them. Arc the
proceedings pending against them, how many
of them have be<?n removed from service or
what steps have ^een taken against them ?

SHRI RAJ^ NIWAS MIRDHA : The
supplementary is almost a full question.

As regards certain facts the hon. Member
wanted to know, in 1970-71, there were 12
cases of such seizures and out of these 12,
Class I officers were ten and Class II officers
were two. In 1971-72 there were 25 such
instances of which Class I officers were 14 and
Class II officers were 11.

As regards the other information, I would
need notice for that.

SHRI S. N. MISRA : It has been indi-
cated that certain steps were taken and
recoveries were made from public undertak-
ings officers. But that has not been mentio-
ned here in the numbers given by the hon.
Minister.

SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : As
regards the number of officers from public
undertakings, as I said, I would need notice.

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SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : For a long time
we have been hearing of accumulation of
movable and immovable wealth by the ICS
and IAS officers attached to various States,
and we have brought these things, on several
occasions, to the notice of the Government.
I would like to know whether there are any
instances of ICS and IAS officers accumula-
ting huge wealth by way of holding immova-
ble property and constructing palatial build-
ings not only in Delhi but also in every
Capital city. If such instances have been
brought to the notice of the Government, I
would also like to reveal certain instances.
An ex-I.C.S. officer . .

MR. SPEAKER : Please do not mention
the name.

SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : He was a Class I
officer and he wa9 involved in the accumula-
tion of wealth.

MR. SPEAKER : I am not going to
allow mention of names of persons who are
not here to defend themselves. .

SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : All right. Sir ; I
will not give the names. Are there instances
of ICS and IAS officers accumulating
wealth..

MR. SPEAKER : Please sit down. You
have put your question.

SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : I think

it is very unfair on the part of the hon.
Member to make such sweeping remarks
about the whole class of officers. Government
has not hesitated to inquire into cases and
even punish persons belonging to ICS and
IAS. The instances have been mentioned in
the House from time to time. If the hon.
Member wants to know of any particular
inquiry or any particular allegation against
any particular officer, I can give him infor-
mation separately.

Song and Drama Division’s Artistes’
Rally

*224. SHRI ARJUN SETHI : Will the
Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD-
CASTING be pleased to state :

(a) whether about 250 artistes of the
Song and Drama Division of the All-India
Radio led a rally to the Prime Minister’s
residence to press their demands which include
among other things, all the facilities enjoyed
by A. I. R. staff ; and

(b) if so, Government’s reaction thereto ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) Yes, Sir. A number of artistes of
the Song and Drama Division went in a
group to the residence of the Prime Minister
and presented a memorandum in which the
demand referred to was made inter alia. The
Song and Drama Division is, however, not a
part of the All India Radio, but a separate
organisation directly under the Ministry of
Information and Broadcasting.

(b) While the grievances of the ai tistes are
and will continue to be considered sympathe-
tically in discussion with their representatives
the conditions in which they have to function
being quite different from those in which the
artistes of the All India Radio function it may
not be possible to equate the facilities made
available to these two groups of artistes.

SHRI ARJUN SETHI : While answer-
ing my question, the hon. Minister has men-
tioned that the conditions in which they have
to function are different from those of the
AIR artistes. So, I want to know what are
the different conditions in which both the
groups of artistes work and for what reason the
latter group is not entitled to get the benefits.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI I. K. GUJRAL) a

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When it is said that the conditions are not
the same, it also in some cases means that the
conditions are harder. Therefore, they may
need better consideration because they work
under two different sets of circumstances.
Therefore, it is wrong to equate them and I
think the problems of the staff artistes working
under the Song and Drama Division should
be dealt with separately.

SHRI ARJUN SETHI : I would like to
know whether the Government have received
any complaint from the recognised Groups of
the Song and Drama Division regarding the
reduction of remuneration and insufficient
programmes and programmes in an inconve-
nient manner.

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : So far as the
recognised Groups arc concerned, there arc
complaints tf^at the remuneration paid is not
sufficient which I think does need examina-
tion which we are going to do because it is
very important that the Song and Drama
Division should function and should encou-
rage their registered Groups, particularly, the
professional and amateur Groups functioning
in various parts of the country.

SHRI S. M. BANE RJ EE s I am happy
that the hon. Minister has realised that these
boys and girls who are working in the Song
and Drama Division have to work in great
difficulties because they have to go to the
border areas. So, I would like to know in
case the facilities enjoyed by the AIR are not
applicable to them, whether a committee is to
be set up to review their wages and work-
ing conditions and whether a separate com-
mittee is needed because they are not covered
under the Pay Commission. I would like to
know whether any committee is being set up.

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : So far as pay
and allowances are concerned, originally we
referred it to the Pay Commission. The Pay
Commission has now told ub that it does not
fall within their purview. It is important
that the rationalisation of the pay structure
should be studied and undertaken. It is going
to be done very soon. Their conditions must
be studied within the Song and Drama Division
itself. There are three sets of Groups —

Troops Central, the Border Publicity
Groups and the Family Planning Groups ; and
even with regard to the service structure
there arc differentiations and I am keen that
rationalisation should take place in such a
way that everyone gets equal pay for equal
type of job or the same type of job done.

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SHRI ANANTRAO PATIL : May I
know from the Minister whether the artistes
belonging to the Song and Drama Division
have submitted t*eir demands to the Head of
the Department.

SHRI I. K. tUJRAL : They had sub-
mitted 10 demands out of which on five
demands, action has already been initiated
and the rest are under consideration.

Issue of Licences to Birla, Sahu Jain and
Tatas

*225. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO-
LOGY be pleased to state the nature and
value of licences given to the Birla Group of
Industries, Sahu Jain Group and Tata
Industries, separately, during the last three
years for setting up of new industries and for
expansion of the existing industries ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
A statement showing the number of Indust-
rial licences for the setting up of new indus-
tries and effecting substantial expansion issued
to the Birla, Sahujain and Tata Groups dur-
ing the last three years is laid on the Table
of the House. Industrial licences are generally
issued for specific capacities rather than for
specific values.

Statement •

1969

1970

1971

GROUP

N.U. S.E.

N.U. S.E. N.U. S.E.

Birla

— 5

— 1 — 3

Sahujain

Tata

— 1

N. U. : Stands for New Undertaking.

S. E. : Stands for Substantial Expansion.

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MR. SPEAKER : These are all sugges-
tions for action.

SHRI INDRAJ IT GUPTA : It is seen
from the statement that in the course of these
3 years, 9 licences were given to Birlas for
effecting substantial expansion. I would like
to know the npmes of these companies or
undertakings of the Birlas. Is it within the
capacity of the existing plants or is the
; expansion going to be by way of setting up
new plants belonging to the parent company ?

SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD : Subs-
tantial expansion means expansion of capa-
city of the established plants ; it it not a new
undertaking. It is not meant for manufacture

of new articles. The names are : Bally Jute
Go. Ltd ; Orient General Industries ; Soorah
Jute mills ; Birla Jute Manufacturing Go.
Ltd ; Saurashtra Chemicals ; Eastern Spinning
Mills ; National Engineering Industry ; pobind
Sugar Mills ; Textile Machinery Corporation.

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Substantial
expansion is given for increasing capacity of
the existing plants. This is what the Minister
said. Birla Jute Company to which reference
was made has several plants which have
nothing to do with jute. The Birla Jute
Company has on hand several other progra-
mmes which have nothing to do with jute,
but under a common signboard, of Birla
Jute Company, they make substantial
expansion.

SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD :
The office of Birla Jute Company is located
in 15, India Exchange Place, Calcutta.

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA-
NIAM) : There have been expansions in jute
manufactuiing, particularly jute carpet-back-
ing cloth for purposes of export. There has
been expansion of these carpetbacking plants.

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SHRIMATI SAVITRI SHYAM : When
licences are extended, more responsibilities
and obligations are also imposed. I shall be
grateful if you could kindly ask the hon.
Minister to reply.

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SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA :
The hon. Minister has been pleased to say
and it is quite evident from the statement
laid on the Table of the House also that
these licences are only for substantial expan-
sion ; that means that since licences have
been granted for substantial expansion of the
existing units, they would increase the share of
those firms in the total product. That means,
again, concentration of economic power or
the increase of the monopoly element of that
firm. How does Government account for this
departure from policy ?

SHRI G. SUBRAMANIAM : There is
the Monopolies and Restrictive Trade Practices
Act, and the Monopolies Commission goes
into it. Whenevei the company is a dominant
company manufacturing certain articles to a
certain extent, expansion or new unit is not
allowed to them. But in these cases they are
not dominant producers.

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA :
My question has not been answered. If you
increase the ihare of a firm in the total
product, that means the increase of the mono-
poly element of that fiim in that product.
That is the main point.

SHRI G. SUBRAMANIAM : The mono-
poly element would come in only if they are
the dominant producers. There are other
producers also, and, therefore, it will not
become a monopoly. But I do agree that this
will increase their production, but that is
taken care of. It is only for specific reasons,
namely for increasing the export, for example,
of jute carpet backing cloth which is intended
mainly for export, that we had to allow it
even though it may be a bigger house.

Proposal for Setting up of Film Council

*226. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN-
THAM i Will the Minister of INFORMA-
TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased

to state :

(a) whether the Centre had sought Chief
Ministers' views on the proposal to set up a
Film Council ;

(b) whether the Chief Ministers have
expressed their views, if so, the nature there-
of ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) Replies from some States/Union
Territories have been received. They have
generally welcomed the idea of setting up the
Film Council. *

SHRI S. A. MURUGANANTHAM x
May I know whether the Chief Minister of
Tamil Nadu has said in a public announce-
ment that the Centre is not in favour of the
formation of the Film Council ? Is there
any substance in his apprehension ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI I. K. GUJRAL) :
No. So far as I am concerned, so fai as our
information goes, the Chief Minister has
favoured the idea of setting up of the Film
Council.

SHRI S. A. MURUGAi^ANTHAM :
My question was different. . . .

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : It has not been
brought to my notice that the Chief Minister
is under the impression that we are not
interested in setting up the Film Council. I
have already talked to the Chief Minister
himself, and the Chief Minister knows my
views about it.

SHRI S. A. MURUGANANTHAM :
How long will it take to decide on the for-
mation of the Council by the Centre?

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : We are keen to
do it very quickly, and I hope that it will be
done very soon.

SHRI N. K. SANGH1 : The formation
o I the Council has been awaited for such a
long time. Could the hon. Minister give an
idea to the House of the type of formation or

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AUGUST 16, 1972

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composition of this Council, and whether it
will include politicians, and if so, what
percentage of them will be politicians, and
whether there will be representatives from the
film industry and if so, how many ?

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : My hon. friend
would recall that I had detailed discussions
with him and with his associations, and he
knows my views about it. But I can assure
him of one thing, namely that there is no
intention to inject any politicians into the
Film Council.

AN. HON. MEMBER : What about the
Chief Minister of Madras ? He is both a
politician and an actor also ?

DR. RANEN SEN : Is it a fact that the
film producers of Eastern India wanted a
separate film council for die eastern part of

India and if so, what is the reaction of the

0 ,

Government ?

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL :*Thc film pro-
ducer have been having different types of
views from time to time. At one stage
producers felt that there could be a separate
council for producers only. Later on it was
felt that perhaps zonalisation of that would
be better But the idea of a film council is
not to have producers only ; in the Film
Council all interests concerned with film
should be represented.

Lack of Full Utilisation of Capacity in
Small Sector due to Paucity of Funds

*227. SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO :

SHRI RAM SHEKHAR PRASAD
SINGH .

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
DE VELOPM ENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether small scale industries in the
country could not fully utilise their produc-
tion capacities and increase their level of
production, even after the Bank Nationaliza-
tion on account of paucity of funds and lack
of Industiial credits ; and

(b) if so, the steps Government propose
to take in this regard ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) and (b). Following the Bank Nationalisa-
tion there has been an increase in the flow
of funds to the SSI Sector os also increase in
production. However, Government will always

endeavour to increase the tempo of investment
and production in this sector to exploit its
production to its fullest capacity.

SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : May
I know whether recently a survey was conduc-
ted by 21 universities and premier research
and academic institutions in the country for
the banking commission, and if so whether
the purpose of the survey was to study the
credit needs and the problems of small scale
industrial units and small artisans ? Have the
Government examined the survey report and
what steps have been taken or are likely to
be taken to remove the difficulticf as stated
in the survey report and how far are the
Government ready to solve the problem ?

SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD : I
am not aware of any such survey report.
However, we have generally been examining
the problems of the small scale sector and
from time to time we have been taking them
up with the concerned department of the
Government.

SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : Is it a
fact that mo»t of the sin ill-scale industries in
Orissa have not been provided with sufficient
funds and so they are not in a position to
fulfil the conditions imposed by the nationalised
banks, commercial banks and co-opcratives
and are thus forced to borrow fiom non-
institutional agencies ? If so may I know
whether most of the complaints that have
been made to the Centre are in regard to
discrimination shown to the small- scale in-
dustries units in Orissa ? How far have those
complaints been looked into and what steps
are being taken by the Centre to encourage
the small-scale industries units in the State 7

MR. SPEAKER : Instead of asking
questions, he is giving information.

SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD : We
have not received any complaint from the
Government of Orissa.

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SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH : What
was the total amount advanced by nationalised
banks in Bihar to small-scale entrepreneurs
before nationalisation and what is the amount
advanced after nationalisation? Is the Minister
aware of the wide-scale corruption prevailing
among the employees of nationalised banks in
Bihar because of this the small-scale entrepre-
neurs are finding it difficult to approach them?

•

MR. SPEAKER : It is a general ques-
tion which has been put. If the Minister has
got this specific information, I have no
objection. He says he has no information.

SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH : The
total amount of advances given to small-scale
entrepreneurs in Bihar before nationalisation
and the amount sanctioned since then — that
is the information which the Minister ought
to give. I do not know whether he is aware
of the prevalence of corruption on a wide
scale.

MR. SPEAKER : You are asking a
specific question. The hon. Minister can
supply that information to you later on.

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA :
What percentage of the total requirements of
raw material, particularly in respect of steel,
is being met at the present moment ?

SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD : The
House is aware that there is a shortage of steel
but we have made certain special allocations to
the small-scale sector. It has recently come to
our notice that though wc had made special
allocations, some of the State Industrial
Development corporations are not in a
position to lift that steel and, therefore, it has
created difficulties.

Telephone connections to War Heroes*
dependents on priority basis

-4"

*228. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA :

SHRI PURUSHOTTAM
KAKODKAR :

Will the Minister of COMMUNICA-
TIONS be pleased to state :

(a) whether the dependents of war heroes

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have been included in the priority category
for giving telephone connections ;

(b) whether his Ministry has directed the
General Manager of Telephone Districts not
to insist on “Own Your Telephone” deposits
from the war widows and other dependents of
those killed in action ; and

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a)
and (b). Yes. Dependents of officers and
jawans killed in the recent war with Pakistan
are provided telephone connections without
OYT deposit on priority basis by the Heads
of Circles/Districts without reference to the
Telephone Advisory Committee when such
demands are received by the Department
through the Ministry of Defence.

SHRI K. LAKKAPPA •, I compliment
the minister on his efficiency, but may I
know whether the system of “Own Your
Telephone” and asking for a deposit is out
moded, which creates all sorts of problems
not only to the ordinary citizens but also to
the war heroes and their dependents to get
telephone ? May I know whether such com-
plaints from war widows regarding the
difficulties in the procedure for getting a
telephone have been received ?

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA : So far as
the war widows are concerned, they are not
required to give any deposit. So far as
others arc concerned, we will have the
account settled some other time.

SHRI K. LAKKAPPA : May I know
whether there are instances where the Defence
Ministry themselves referred certain cases of
war widows for telephones which have been
rejected by certain district telephone officers
and if so, what action will be taken against
such officers ?

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA : I have not
received any such complaint. Should such a
complaint come, I am sure adequate action
will be taken to the satisfaction of the hon.
member.

PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR :
Is it essential that applications for such
telephones should come through the Defence
Ministry or can they come through the
District Magistrates to the department con-
cerned ?

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA : I have no
objection to this arrangement also, but
normally the Defence Ministry has been
routing them to us.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I am happy
that the minister has issued instructions that
war-widows and dependents should be given
telephones. May I stretch it a bit and ask
whether similar concessions will be given to
the national heroes who were given awards
yesterday ?

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: This is a
suggestion for action. We will certainly keep
that in mind.

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SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA : Even if
an application is duly certified by the District
Sailors, Soldiers and Airmen’s Board or the
District Magistrate that the applicant is a
direct dependent of a war hero, certainly they
will be given similar concession

Alleged Manipulation in Telephone Bills

*231. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN :

SHRI M. M. JOSEPH :

Will the Minister of COMMUNICA-
TIONS be pleased to state :

(a) whether any action was taken against
the authorities who in collusion with subs-
cribers are said to have defrauded Govern-
ment of a few lakhs of rupees by manipula-
ting the bill for phone calls ; and

(b) if so, the salient features thereof ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a)
Yes Sir. Prima facie such a case has been
established.

(b) One clerk, one Engineering Super-
visor (Phones) and one Assistant Engineer
(Phones) have been placed under suspension.
The matter is under investigation and
necessary action is being initiated against
officials found responsible for the situation.

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Oral Answers

SRAVANA 23, 1894 (SAJTA)

Oral Answers

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SHRI G. VISWANATHAN : If the
working of the telephones is bad, the working
of the accounts department is still worse.
Not only manipulation is going on but some
of us have received bills which we need not
pay at all. For instance, 1 have received a
bill for Rs. 1,700 which is wrong billing.
Though 1 have written to the department, I
have not received any reply so far. This
is going on for years. What action has been
taken to check these irregularities ?

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA: As I said
it is not the accounts department but the
Assistant Engineer in charge of each exchange
who is responsible for the irregularities.
Every quarter the Assistant Engineer sends
to the accounts department a list of the
number of calls made by each number.
The accounts department calculate as to how
much it costs. It is the Assistant Engineer,
the Engineering Supervisor and the meter
reader who between themselves should be
able to check and give the correct reading.

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AUGUST 16, 1972

Oral Answers

This has not happened. Therefore, when the
matter came to our notice in February, 1972
ixl relation to two or three cases, we had a
whole series of checks made in every exchange
and we have gone back up to 1969 in some
and in other cases up to 1966, where we
have found certain numbers which have not
paid the bills that were due from them
because of the mistake committed by the
Assistant Engineer, Engineering Supervisor
and the meter reader.

SHRI A. P. SHARMA : Now it has
been established that there js excess billing
and wrong billing going on in a large num-
ber of cases. Therefore, I would like to know
what steps are being taken to see that wrong
billing does not take place in future ? I want
to know what is the relief given in those
cases where there has been excess billing
or wrong billing ?

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we are concerned with uijder-billing. Here
is a case where bills have not been sent to
the people when due. But so far as excess
billing and other things are concerned, the
Committee on Petitions has made recommen-
dations that we should go into the question
of accounts kept by the Delhi Telephones.
We had decided to appoint such a com-
mitee. Meanwhile, the Estimates Committee
has also come into the picture. We have
requested the Estimates Committee to permit
us to go ahead with the committee as sug-
gested by the Petitions Committee.

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Oral Answers

SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAKA)

Oral Answers

SHRI VIKRAM MAHAJAN : Has the
Government made any efforts to develop a
meter which could be installed with the tele-
phone of the subscriber so that these alleged
complaints are eliminated ? Secondly, it has
been said that they have to identify the
problem. May I know how long will they
take to solve it ?

SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA : So far ar
the meter is concerned, our telephone re-
search cell has produced one charge-indicator
which we call S. T. D. meter. But that is
still under field test and I am not sure
whether we have really succeeded in making
one. However, it has been our constant
effort to find out if we could produce a
meter which could be installed in the subs-
criber’s permises, and as soon as it is ready,
it shall certainly be done.

Allegation against Chairman National
Institute of Designs, Ahmedabad by Vice-
Admiral Soman

*232. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Will
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO-
LOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether Vice-Admiral Soman, who
was recently dismissed from the Director-
ship of the National Institute of Designs in
Ahmedabad, has made certain serious allega-
tions against the Chairman of the Governing
Body of the Institute ;

(b) whether Government have made
any investigation into these allegations ;

(d) the action taken thereon ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) to (d). The services of Vice-Admiral B. S.
Soman as Executive Director of the National
Institute of Design, Ahmedabad were termi-
nated with effect from 3rd Jnly, 1972 in
accordance with the conditions of his
appointment. Certain allegations subsequently
made by him regarding the working of the
Institute, which' appeared in the Press, have
come to the notice of the Government. He
has also recently furnished Government with
certain further allegations. All these are
being examined.

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: I would
like to know whether it it is a fact that the

Executive Director of this Institute is ap-
pointed by the Governing Council and if
that is so, whether Government are aware
of the fact that, in the case Admiral Soman,
the decision to terminate his services was
taken in a meeting of the Governing Coun-
cil in which out of eight members four were
absent, one was opposed to the decision of
termination and only two of the members
and the Chairman were in favour of sacking
him. Out of eight members, three were in
favour, one was against and four were ab-
sent. Does the Government consider it cor-
rect or regular for a Governing Council to
take a decision in this fashion terminating
the services of the Executive Director who is
the main executive of the Institute ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY * (SHRI C. SUBRAMA-
NIAM) : There t are rules governing the
meeting and the quorum required. If those
conditions are satisfied, legally it is a cor-
rect decision. But I do agree, it looks a litde
bit anomalous. All these things are now
under examination. We will go into it fully
and when the*e matters are investigated, if
necessary, it will be provided to the mem-
ber for information.

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : I would
like to know whether this inquiry or investi-
gation is going to be done departmentally or
whether any particular committee has been
set up, because I understand that quite a
large sum of money by way of grants to this
Institute has been given by the Government.
I would also like to know from him whether,
in the complaints that have been received,
this is also there that a particular industria-
list’s family of Ahmedabad which is more
or less controlling this Institute is getting
many of their own concerns earn profits and
commissions by virtue of work which is given
to them by this Institute. Their own fac-
tories and concerns are making profit out of
it. I would like to know whether this is the
way Government’s grants are to be utilised.
Who is to do the inquiry and investigation ?

SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM : I intend
asking a high official to look into it, and if
further investigations are necessary, we shall
certainly consider it. But the 'straight factor
here is this. Admiral Soman himself was
appointed on 19-10-1970. He was in position
till 3-7-1972. Till he was relieved, we have
not received any repost from him or any
complaint from him. It is only after he was

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AUGUST 16, 1972

Oral Answers

discharged that he has made all the com-
plaints and allegations. Therefore, it is a
matter which will have to be looked into
carefully.

SHRI PILOO MODY : Quite apart
from the lights or wrongs in this matter
or what the complaints of individuals
may be, there is a certain pci formance which
this National Institute of Design is supposed
to have given. Over so many years crores
of rupees have been spent and the outcome,
the result, has been rather disastrous, to say
the least. I wnat to know whether Govern-
ment is agitated over this matter about the
results versus investment and whether a full
inquiry into the complete working and the
management of the Institute is contemplated
so that, in case the management has been
found wanting, the management may be
changed. The idea is very good, money has
been spent, equipment is there, but thcic is
no lesult • •

SHRI C. SUBRAM AM AM : I am
grateful to the hon. Member for the very
valuable suggestions he has made. We will
certainly go info the entire working of this
institute.

SHRI B. V. NAIK : I think Admiral
Soman has rendered service for a substantial
period in the Indian Navy. I want to know
whether there is anything on the record of
his past performance in the Navy to show
that these allegations are of a motivated
nature or any aspersions can be cast on
Admiral Soman.

SHRI C*. SUBR\MAM\M : I am not
casting any aspersions I have placed the
facts. As long as he was associated with the
Institute, no complaint has come and later
on, he has made 'Therefore, this is a matter
which requires full investigation. Certainly,

I do not know his performance in the Navy
blit I am sure he might have had an admira-
ble record. So, that is not a question under
consideration.

SHRI PILOO MODY : All Admirals are
admirable.

MR. SPEAKER : Shri Narcndra Singh-
absent. •

Proposed T. V. Station daring Fourth Five
Year Plan

*234. SHRI VEKARIA :

SHRI G. Y. KIUSHNAN :

Will the Minister of INFORMATION

AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state :

(a) the number of T. V. Stations proposed
to be established during the current Fourth
Five Year plan ; and

(b) the location, State-wise, where they
are going to be commissioned ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) Six.

(b) Maharashtra

J & K
Punjab
West Bengal
U. P.

Tamil Nadu

— Bombay/Poona
— Srinagar
— Amritsar
— Calcutta
— Lucknow/Kanpur
— Madras

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SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAJCA)

Written Answers

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : Our TV policy
is that wc have been expanding the TV cove-
rage slowly. As my colleague has already put
to you, in some States it is being started this
year. Four metropolitan cities will get cover-
ed in the Fourth Plan and then we are setting
up in Srinagar and Punjab for obvious reasons.
The other State capitals we will begin covering
in the Fifth Plan.

SHRI VIRBHADRA SINGH : Is there
any proposal before the Government to set up
a relay station so that the programmes tele-
cast from Delhi or from Mussoorie can be
seen in places like Simla ?

SHRI I. K. GUJRAL : We are at the
moment trying to expand the programme as
far as possible by setting up relay stations. One
such proposal is to have a relay station at
Musfoorie which would cover the Western UP
as well as some parts of Haryana. We always
explore the possibility of setting up relay
stations so that the TV programmes can be
seen as extensively as possible. I am trying
to explore whether it is possible to cover Simla
also Some parts of Simla even now can get.

SOME 1 ION. MEMBERS

MR. SPEAKER . No, please.

SHRI N. K P. SALVE : The whole
central area is left.

SHRI S. M. RANERJEE : What about
Kanpur 7 Kanpur has always sulTered.

MR. SPEAKER : Shn Shankar Dayal
Singh

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WRITTEN ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS

Conference of^State Ministers of Housing

*201. SHRI SHRIK1SHAN MODI :

SHR*I SHASHI BHUSHAN :

Will ihe Minister of WORKS AND HOUS-
ING be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Central Government has
suggested that the State Governments should
take immediate steps for setting up develop-
ment authorities in major towns ;

(b) whether this subject was discussed at
a Conference of State Ministers of Housing
held in Delhi in the 2nd week of July, 1972 ,
and

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND
HOUSING AND HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING (SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIK-
SHIT) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) Yes, Sir.

Statement

The Confeiencc of State Ministers of
Housing, Town Planning ancl Urban Deve-
lopment held in New Delhi in July, 1972 con-
sidered various questions relating to housing
and urban development policy, implementa-
tion of the three Central sector housing
schemes, terms and conditions of loans granted
by HUDCO, and preparation and enforcement
of regional and Master Plans, etc., and made

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AUGUST 16, 1972

Written Answers

the following major recommendations :

(i) All uibanisable land should be socia-
lised so that the Government can have
effective con'iol over land-use, and can
also recover unearned increments in
the value of such lands for the benefit
of the community.

(u) High priority should be given to hous-
ing and it should be reflected in larger
financial allocations made for imple-
mentation of various housing program-
mes. An attempt should be made to
provide an outlay of the Older of
atleast Rs. 500 crures per annum at
the Central and State levels during
the Filth Flan period to meet the
backlog and current requirements of
bousing for the lower income groups,

(ni) 25% of the provisions made under
each of the two new central sector
schemes, viz , (a) Scheme for Provision
of House-sites to LandGss Workers in
Rural \reas (hi Scheme foi Environ-
mental Improvement of Slums should
be lelcased to the State Governments
immediately on receipt of their pro-
ject proposals piovidtd they have been
formulated in conformity with the
Scheme in order to enable them to go
ahead with the piojects.

(iv) Administrative /technical machinery,

both at the Ccntic and in the States,
should be suitably strengthened and
geared to the task of speedy implemen-
tation of the schemes.

(\) Legislation on Laud reforms and con-
ferment of home-stead rights on those
landless workers who are in occupa-
tion of land in the rural areas as
house-sites, should be tied up with
the Scheme foi Provision of House-
sites to Landless Workers in Rural
Areas. To reduce the cost of acquisi-
tion of land under this Scheme, Land
Acquisition Acts of Central and State
Governments should be amended in
the light of the 25th Amendment to
the Constitution.

(vi) The Scheme, for Environmental Im-
provement of Slum Areas is restricted
to slums not earmarked for clearance
during the next 10 years. This period
is too long and should be reduced to
5 years. The scope of the scheme
should also be extended to States

where no city or town is at piesent
coveted by the Scheme to enable them
to carry out improvements in slums
in their capital city (or any other city
considered important by them).

(vii) To resolve procedural and other diffi-
culties in the implementation of the
Subsidised Housing Scheme for Plan-
tation Workers, two regional meetings
should be held towards the end of
September, 1972 — one at Darjeeling for
the Eastern Region and the other at
Ooty for the Southern Region. The
State Governments should also be
given powers under this Scheme to
sanction projects which involve the
grant of subsidy alone (without loins)
to the Planters.

(viii) HUDGO should be piovidcd with a
substantial portion of its resources
repayable over a period not less than
25 years, m order to fulfil the social
and pressing need ot housing for the
economically weaker sections of the
society

(ix) The State Governrmnts should take
immediate action to set up statutory
urban development authorities for their
large and growing towns.

(x) The Stale Govcinmt nts should chaw
up Master Plans for all cities, and
take urgent action to enact com pi o
hensivc town planning legislation so
that the Master Plans can be legally
(and adequately) enforced.

(xi) The State Planning Departments
should prepare comprehensive city
development programmes for impor-
tant cities in their States, with special
emphasis on investments of a self-
generating type, and ensure their
integration with the State Five Year
Plans for implementation during Fifth
Plan period.

Community Development Blocks without
Primary Health Centres and without
Doctors

*202. SHRI VEKARIA :

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY :

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) the number of Community Develop-
ment Blocks in India, State-wise ;

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(b) the number of Community Develop-
ment Blocks where no Primary Centres have
been established and number of Community
Development Blocks with Primary Health
Centres where no doctors have been provided.
State-wise ; and

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND
HOUSING AND HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING (SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIK-
SHIT) : (a) to (c). A statement is laid on
the Tabic of the Sabha. [Placed in Library .
See No. LT— 3375/72]

Conditions of Rice Seized at Bitragunta
Station during 1971

*203 SIIRI D\SARATHA DEB : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) whether Government are aware that
about 24,000 bags of ri< e, seized at Bitragunta
Railway Station (Andhra) last year is rotting
in the godown ; and

(b) whether that rice still remains fit for
human < onsurnption ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNAS AIIEIl P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b).
10,200 bags of rice seized by the Slate Govern-
ment of Vndhra Pradesh on 15 7 71 are lying
at Bitragunta. The State Government have
reported that the bulk of the lots are well
within the limits of consumable condition
needing only winnowing and cleaning.

Steps to Increase Food Production due
to Shortfall during 1971-72

*204. SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH :

DR. MAHIPATRAY MEHTA :

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state the steps taken by Govern-
ment to improve the production of foodgrains
which declined m 1971-72 ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAIIEB P. SHINDE) : Firm estimates
of foodgrains production in 1971-72 are not
yet available. Government have, however,
taken various measures to increase the produc-
tion of foodgrains in the country. These
include (i) extension of area under the high-
yielding varieties programme, (ii) bunging
additional area under multiple cropping

programme, (lii) starting of Central sector
scheme of minikit programme oi rice, (iv)
launching of Centrally sponsored scheme for
quick multiplication of seeds and demonstra-
tions of newly evolved varieties of pulses,
(v) intensive development of irrigation parti-
cularly ground water resources, (vi) adequate
and timely supply of inputs like seeds, ferti-
lisers and credit and (vii) surveillance of
pests and diseases and well organised plant
protection measuies. In addition, a massive
rabi production programme is contemplated
for the ensuing rabi season.

Rice lying with Millers of Krishna and
West Godavari District of Andhra
Pradesh

*205. SHRI NAVAL KISHORE
SHARMA :

SHRI* SUKHDEO PRASAD
VERMA :

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE lie
pleased to state*:

(a) whether about 18000 tons of boiled
rice is lying with the millers al Krishna and
West Godavari District of Andhra Pradesh ;

(b) if so, whether the rice is about to be
destioyrd and the millers and other concerned
individuals arc being put to loss ; and

(c) the steps being taken by the Govern-
ment of India to put a check on adulteration
of this rice with superior quality rice in the
country, in case this rice is icmovcd from
there ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P SHINDE) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) No, Sir.

(c) The iclcvant provisions of law relating
to the marketing of ticc as fit lor human
consump tion will also apply to these stocks
of rirc.

Pay Scale of Binders working in National
Museum, Archaeological Department,
National Archives and Government of

India Press
%

*206. SHRI G. K. C.HANDRAPPAN :
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) the pav scale of Binders working in
the (i) National Museum (ii) Archaeological
Department (iii) National Archives and (iv)
Government of India Press New Delhi ; and

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(b) the steps being taken to upgrade the
pay scale of the Binders in the National Archi-
ves, where work is of superior and fine
quality ?

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE

(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) s (a) A state-
ment indicating the existing scales of Binders
is laid on the Table of the Sabha.

(b) The Third Pay Commission is seized
of the matter. Decision will be taken in the
light of its recommendation.

Statement

S.No. Name of the Office Designation of the post Scale of Pay

1 . National Museum

Book Binder

2 .

Archaeological Survey of India (i) Book Binder

(ii) Junior Book Binder

National Archives Binder

Government of Indfa Press, (i) Binder Grade I
New Delhi.

(ii) Binder Grade II

Rs. 130-5-160-8-200-
EB-8-256-EB-8-
280-10-300.

Rs. 125-3-131-4-163-
EB-4- 175-5- 180.
Rs. 80-1-85-2-95-EB-
3-1 10.

Rs. 100-3-130.

Rs. 150-5-180.

Rs. 110-3-131-4-143-
EB-4-155.

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Breakdown of D.T.G* Basra

*206. SHRI N. K. SANGHI : Will the
Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT
be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government’s attention has

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been drawn to the news-item appearing in the
Indian Express dated 20th July* 1972 that
over ten per cent of D. T. C. buses on Delhi
roads break-down every day ;

(b) whether Government have inquired
into the high percentage of daily break-downs
and also the steps taken to remedy the
matter ; and

(c) whether Government have tried to
tackle thi problem of missing trips by D. T. C.
buses and to what extent Government’s efforts
have been successful ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN-
TARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) t
fa) Yes, Sir. The fact, however, is that,
whereas the percentage of break-downs per
clay in relation to the number of buses on
road was 2G.‘> in October, 1971, it is 25 4
per day now. Further, the new management
of the D« lhi Transport Corporation took over
buses from the I) T. U. on 3 11. 71,
out of which ncaily 524 were more than
eight years old

(b) The Delhi Tiansport Corporation is
taking steps to reduce the rate of breakdowns
l>\ pressing new and irnovated buses into
sc? vice and scrapping the over-aged ones and
constructing new depots to improve the stand-
aid of in.untc nnner ol buses

(r) Yes, Sir. The percentage of trips
missed has been brought down from 31.6 in
October. 1971 to 21.1 current!).

Showing of J. and K. as a Separate
Country in «X* Standard Text Book in
Mysore State

*209. SHRI DHXRAMRAO AFZAL-
PURKAR : Will the Ministci of EDUCA-
TION AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased
to state :

(a) whether in the State of Mysore in the
r X' Standard text book, Jammu and Kashmir
has been shown separate country in the
maps ; and

(l>) if so, the reaction of Central Govern-
ment thereto ?

THE MINIS! ER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) and (b).
Necessary information is being collected and
will be laid on the Table of the Sabha m soon
as possible.

Acquisition of Coastal Vessels

*210. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU : Will
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS-
PORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether there is an urgent need to
acquire small coastal vessels to develop coastal
shipping ;

(b) if so, the number of such vessels
required ; and

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND TRANS-
PORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : (a) Yes,
Sir.

(b) A Sub-Qpmmittee of the National
Shipping Board, which is a statutory body, is
examining the c|uestion of the tonnage requ-
ired to meet our coastal requirements.

(c) Orders for 10 dry cargo vessels of a
total of about 1,20,000 GRT and for 5 coastal
tankers of about 63,000 GRT have been
placed abroad.

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Students’ Representation on Governing
Bodies of Universities

*212. SHRI K. B A L ADH AN DAY U -
TIIAM : Will the Minister of EDUCATION
AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to
state 3

(a) whether the proposal to give represen-
tation to students in the governing bodies of
the Universities has not yet been implemen-
ted ; and

(b) if so, the reasons for the delay in
implementing the proposal ?

THE MINISTER OF, EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) and (b).
The recommendations made by the Gajendra-
gadkar Committee in its report on Governance
of the Universities, including those relating to
Student’s participation in University Adminis-
tration, have been accepted in principle by
the University Grants Commission and the
Central Government. The implementation of
some of these recommendations would require
amendment of the Acts of the Universities
and further action in this regard is to be
taken by State Governments and the Central
Government. So far as the Central Govern-
ment is concerned, these recommendations
have already been taken into account while
amending the Aligarh Muslim University Act.
Similar action will be taken while formulating
comprehensive legislative proposals of other
Central Universities.

The University Grants Commission have
forwarded the report to the Universities. It is
hoped that the Universities will take action
on those aspects of participation which fall
within their powers.

Complaints regarding Irregular Supply

of Seeds and Fertilizers to States

*213. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHARIEF :
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have received
complaints from certain States regarding
irregular supply of seeds and chemical ferti-
lizers to farmers ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of Government in
this regard ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b). Yes,
Sir. Complaints have been received from
some States regarding inadequate supply of
seeds and chemical fertilisers to farmers.

Regarding seeds, the States Government
arrange for the pioduction of the required
quantities of seeds ; and these efforts arc
supplemented by the National Seeds Corpora-
tion, Tarai Development Corporation and
State Farms Corporation of India. A com-
plaint was received from the State Govern-
ment of West Bengal regarding non-supply
of seeds of paddy variety IET 1991 by the
National Seeds Corporation and this is being
investigated.

Regarding fertilisers, coordinated supply
plans are diawn up onre in six months by the
Government of India, in consultation with the
Stale Governments and domestic manufac-
turers. The Central Government ai ranges for
import of fertilisers to cover the deficits in
indigenous production. However, it is for the
State Governments to organise distribution of
imported fertilisers in such manner as they
deem necessary for timely supply to farmers.

Owing to difficulties encountered by indi-
genous factories and also difficulties in the
import of fertilisers, the supply position this
year has not been satisfactory. While every
effort is bring made to increase indigenous
production and import availabilities, the foll-
owing measures have been taken to ensure
just and equitable distribution of available
stocks amongst the States : —

(i) An order has been promulgated under
the Essential Commodities Act, making it
obligatory for the manufacturers to supply
quantities of fertilisers to the States, as com*
mitted by them during the Zonal Conferences.
This will ensure that the feitilisers are not
sold only in a few pockets in the country and
that all the States get the supplies on an
equitable basis.

(ii) Orders have also been passed under
the Fertiliser Control order, compelling the
manufacturers to report to the Central and
State Governments every month the actual
supplies made by them and also the proposed
to be supplied. This will enable States to
keep a watch on the movement of stocks.

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(iii) Government have taken over 30%
of the Ammonium Sulphate produced within
the country to be distributed through State
agencies like cooperatives Agro-Industries
Corporations etc. for priority crops and area*.

(iv) The States have been advised to pre-
pare a careful inventory of stocks available in
godowns of cooperatives and retail dealers, to
enable optimum utilisation of the available
fertilisers.

(v) The manufacturei s have been asked
to channel their output through cooperative
organisations, in order to minimise the chance
of mal-practices.

Estimates of Production of foodg rains
during 1971-72

*214. SI 1RI SI I YAM NANDAN MISHRA:
Will the Minister ol AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) tin number of estimates of the pro-
duction of foodgiains made during a year ;

(b) the periods during which they are
made available to the Government ; and

HIE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAllLll P. SHINDE) : (a) to (c).
Estimates of production of foodgrains based
on complete enumeration of area and results
of crop cutting experiments foi yields are
made only once m a year. 'These estimates
gcneiallv become available aftei the close of
the agricultural var, i e. some tune in July-
August. For 1971-72, these estimates are still
being compiled.

Rise in price of fertiliser and its effect
on grain production

*215. SHRI J IAR I SINGH : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) whether Government are aware of
the unusual rising of pi ices of the fertilisers in
the country ;

(b) if so, the causes thereof ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI

ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b).
There is a statutory price control on th<
retail prices of three important fertilisers
which cover more than about 60% of the
consumption in the country, namely Urea,
Ammonium Sulphate and C.A.N. Sale of
these fertilisers whether of imported origin or
domestically manufactured, at prices exceed-
ing the statutory levels is an offence under
the Fertiliser (Control) Order.

There is no control on the prices of other
fertilisers, but the price levels tend to conform
to the price structure of imported fertilisers,
which are channelised through the State
Governments and public agencies at fair
prices. However it is likely that some elements
arc taking advantage of the present difficult
supply position, and charging high prices.
The State Governments have been asked to
exercise strict vigilance and take action where
such instances come to notice.

There has been no unusual rise in prices
of fertilisers in the Country. The prices of
all imported and domestically manufactured
fertilisers had to be increased in March, 1972
only to absoib the duty on fertilisers made in
the budget proposals for 1972-73. Apart from
this, there has been no increase in the price
of imported fertilisers during the past three
years. On the other hand, the prices of both
imported and domestically manufactured
fertilise! s were reduced marginally in respect
of Ammonium Sulphate by Rs. 10/- per tonne
with effect from 5.8.69, Munate of Potash by
Rs. 10 per tonne with effect from 1.1.71 and
Urea by Rs. 20/- per tonne w.e.f. 4.3.71. In
fact, the price of imported Ammonium Sul-
phate (coloured or powdery vaiicty) was
reduced by Rs. 100/- per tonne during the
year 1969-70.

(c) The increase in fertiliser prices as
indicated above has not affected adversely the
grain production in the country. On the
other hand, scientific use of fertilisers is a
profitable proposition considering their pro-
ductivity and incentive prices of Agricultural
produce. The increase in fertiliser use in the
last three years has been respectively 13%,
14% and 22%.

Bridge in Seven Hours

*216. SIIRI S. A. MURUG\NAN-
THAM : Will the Minister of SHIPPING
AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether the attention of Government
has been drawn to the news item appeared in

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‘ Times of India' dated 8th July, 1972
captioned ‘Bridge in seven hours’ ;

(b) if so, the broad outlines thereof ; and

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT-
ARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) :

(a) Yes, Sir.

(b) It is essentially a form of unit type
ol bridging in steel designed, patented and
fabricated by Bhagat Engineering Co , Private
Ltd , Bombay.

(c) In view of the claims made by the
firm with regard to the* cost and the time
required for construction, Government hopes
that the claim made by the firm will receive
due consideration from the g authorities con-
cerned when enquiries are floated for works
involving use of the type of structure evolved
by them.

Cheap House by N.B.O.

*217. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD
M \NDAL : Will the Minister of WORKS
AND HOUSING be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government of India have
received a suggestion from National Building
Organisation regai ding the cost at which a
cheap house can be constructed in Delhi ;

(b) if so, the salient features of the pro-
posals : and

(f ) whether the suggestion has since bern
examim d by Government and if so, with what
results ?

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND
HOUSING AND HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING (SHRI UMA SHANKAR
DIKSIin ) : (a) to (c) Government of India
have not received any suggestion from the
National Buildings Organisation regarding
a design for a cheap house specifically for
Delhi However, the National Buildings
Organisation has prepared a design and the
specifications for single storeyed low cost
housing This provides for units of three
tenements each and each unit is estimated to
cost Rs 14,283 exclusive of the cost of land.
Government are considering a proposal to
Construct a unit of this design and specifica-
tions with a view to testing the design.

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Minimum Standards for Sky Scrappers
in Connaught Place, New Delhi

*219 SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH
M \L1K .

SHRI R KM PR VKUSII :

Will the Minister of WORKS AND
HOUSING be pleased to state :

(a) whether the New Delhi Redevelop-
ment Advisory Committee has n < omintnded
some measures and minimum standards for
sky sciappcts in and around Connaughl
Place area ; and

(b) if so, its main rrromme ndations and
Government’s decision tint eon ■*

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND
HOUSING AND HEALTH \M> FAMILY
PLANNINC; (SHRI UMA SHANKAR
DIKSHIT) : (a) The Committer has not yet
submitted its report to Government.

(b) Does not arise.

Scarcity of Sugar in States

*220. SHRI Y. KSWARA REDDY :
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) whether scarcity of sugar has been

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reported from some States ; and

(b) if so, the steps Government have
taken to ensure adequate supply of sugar in
all parts of the country ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) On account of the
fall in production of sugar this year, there is
a general shortage of it. However, within the
limits of the availability, regular monthly
releases of sugar are being made for distribu-
tion to domestic consumers through controlled
channels and for sale in the open market.
There has been some delay and dislocation
during July, 1972, in the supply of levy sugar
to a few of the States as a result of the
interim orders obtained by some factories in
the Supreme Court and the various High
Courts restraining the Government from
infoicing the Sugar (Price Determination)
Ordei, 1972. All the same, 90.3% of the
release quota of levy sugar has been lifted
fiom factories in July, 1972.

(h) Action has been initiated to have the
decisions of the Courts expedited. In order to
ensure an unintetruptid supply of sugar to
all parts ol the country, instructions have been
issued to the State Governments to strengthen
and streamline the distribution machinery
and more particularly to ensure that the
limits on holding of stocks by dealers, and on
sale and despatch by factories are not
contravened.

Leakage of Revenue in Trunk Dialling

*221 STIR I NIHAR LASKAR : Will the
Mimstet of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased
to state :

(a) whether enquiry has revealed that
there was a large leakage of revenue in the
Subset iber Trunk Dialling calls , and

(b) if so, the eflbits being made to reco-
ver the bills fiom such subscribers who got de-
flated bills ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H, N. BAHUGUNA): (a)
Enquiries completed so far have revealed that
ci rtain subscribt rs have not been fully billed.
Further enquiries however are still under way.

(1>) Supplementary bills in relation to
subscribers so far identified for having not
been fully charged, are being issued.

Reduction of Licensed Capacity in Tape
Recorder Industry

*222. SHRI SARJOO PANDEY: Will
the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to be
state:

(a) whether Government have decided to
reduce the licensed capacity in the tape recor-
der industry by 40 per cent ; and

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
K. C. PANT) : (a) No Sir.

(b) Does not arise.

Dalton Ganj-Patna Telephone Lines Inactive

*229. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI:
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS
he pleased to state :

(a) whether the Telephone line between
Dalton Ganj and Patna (Bihar) is in an inac-
tive position and is being used by the people
only 4 days a week ; and

(b) if so, the leasons therefoi ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) No
Sir.

(b) The question does not arise.

P. & T. Colony Kidwaipuri, Patna

*230. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI:
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS
be pleased to state:

(a) the progress of the construction of
Pints and Telegraphs building at Patna in the
Posts and Telegraphs Colony Kidwaipuri ; and

(b) whether Government propose to open
any Central School in that building?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a)
The construction of Primary School cum com-
munity hall building in P. & T. Colony, Kid-
waipuri, in Patna is in progress.

(b) No Sir.

Stolen Mall Found in Paddy Fields

*233. SHRI NARENDRA SINGH : Will
the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be
pleased to state :

(a) whether 1,000 letteis, stolen from mail
bags at Navakkal, near Ernakulam, were found

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in the paddy field if so, whether the culprits
have been traced ;

(b) the action taken by Government
against the culprits ; and

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA): (a)
Bunches of about COO letters suspected to have
been stolen from Cochin Air Sorting were
uneaithcd from a paddy field in Narakkal near
Cochin in May, 1972. The case is still under
police investigation and culprits have not yet
been traced.

(b) In view of (a) above, question docs
not arise.

(c) Necessary precautions and remedial
measures for tightening up supervision and se-
curity arrangements have been taken.

Directives to States to Fill quota of Posts
Reserved for Scheduled Castes and
Scheduled Tribes

*236. SHRI V. MAYA VAN: Will the
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state:

(a) whether Government have issued di-
rectives to all the Government departments at
the Centre as well as to all the State Govern-
ments to fill up the quota of reservation for
Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of the States and
Union Government Departments ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NI WAS MIRDHA) : (a) and (b)
Instructions have been issued from time to
time to all Central Ministries and Departments
prescribing the various steps to be taken for
securing scheduled caste and scheduled tribe
candidates against vacancies reserved for them
These instructions arc required to be strictly
observed by all the appointing authorities. The
reservations for scheduled castes and scheduled
tribes in the Services in the States arc the con-
cern of the respective State Governments un-
der article 335 r^ad with article 16(4) and 12
of the Constitution. As such, while no direc-
tive in this regard can be issued by the Go-
vernment of India to State Governments, the
former has been impressing upon the latter the
need to take appropriate steps to secure ade-
quate representation to the members of sche-
duled castes and scheduled tribes in the Ser-
vices and posts under them.

A.I.R. Correspondents

*237. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MOHA-
PATRA : Will the Minister of INFORMA-
TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to
state :

(a) whether Government plan to change
the part-time A. I. R. Correspondents to full-
time ones and increase their salary ;

(b) whether the Correspondents arc also
appointed for special jobs as on agriculture,
labour, education, youth etc., if so, how many
such are there in Orissa ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI I. K. GUJRAL) :

(a) There is no such proposal at present.

(b) AIR has appointed Conespondents
for coverage of agriculture and for youth pro-
grammes at a few places Orissa has one Cor-
respondent fur agricultural covciagc. It has
no Correspondent specially for youth coverage

Alleged Assault on a Mentally retarded
Female by Police party while taking her
to a Delhi Court

*238. SHRI N. K. SANGHI :

SHRI B. S. BHAURA :

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS
be pleased to state :

(a) whether a mentally retarded female
inmate of the Central Jail of Delhi was cri-
minally assaulted by the escorting Police
party on July 3, 1972 when she was taken to
a Delhi Court ;

(b) if so, whether a high level enquiry
has been instituted into this mattei ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
K. C. PANT) : (a) An allegation to this
effect has been made.

(b) An inquiry officer has been appoint-
ed to enquire into the allegations

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station and the two constables forming
the escort party have been suspended. A
separate vehicle with an escort consisting of
lady police is being provided for escorting
female prisoners.

V.H.F. a New Telephone System for
Rural areas

*239. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH :

SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP
SINGH i

Will the Minister of COMMUNICA-
TIONS he pleased to state :

(a) whether a new rural telephone sys-
tem called V. H. F. system is being experi-
mented ;

(l>) if so, whether it will provide simul-
taneous speak and hear facilities ;

(d) if so, how long it will take to take it
to far away places in rural aieas ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a)
Yes Sir. A single channel V. H. F. system has
c lev* loped for such areas.

(b) Yes Sir. It provides both speak and
hear facilities just like an ordinary telephone ;

(c) This telephone system is expected to
be more reliable and easy to handle in geo-
giaphical areas where it is difficult to erect and
maintain open wire lines.

(d) It is proposed to instal such systems,
in the iirst instance, in hilly and backward
aieas. 'Flic first few systems are expected to
be installed this year.

Tyre-factories in Public Sector

♦240. SHRI PAMPAN GOWDA : Will
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLO-
GY be pleased to state :

(a; the number and location of Tyre-
factories functioning in the country in public
sector ; and

(b) the manufacturing capacity of each
of the factories ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND

TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMAN-
IAM) : (a) There is no central public sector
Tyre factory in the country ;

(b) Does not arise.

Progress of State Farm at Barpeta Assam

1980. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) the progress so far made by the
State Farm established at Barpeta Assam ;

(b) the total number of Officers drawing
above Rs. 500 p. m., employees drawing
below Rs. 500 p. m. and workers so far
appointed ;

(d) the total production up to the end
of April, 1972 ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Total
area of the farm at present is 5,000 acres.
Operations in the area were commenced in
November, 1971. Recruitment of staff, pro-
curement of machinery and equipment for the
farm, construction of temporary sheds deve-
lopment of land etc. have already been taken
in hand. So far 532 acres have been reclaim-
ed. It was possible to put about 30 acres of
land under cultivation in rabi 1971-72. Total
area so far cultivated in Kharif 1972 is 110
acres.

(b) As on 30th June, 1972, two Officers
were drawing pay above Rs. 500 p.m and
nine employees below Rs. 500 p. m. From 10
to 250 workers have been employed since the
farm was set up.

(d) 145 quintals of wheat.

Poultry Farm and Nutritious Food Dis-
tribution Centres in M.P.

1981. SHRI MARTAND SINGH OF
REWA : Will the Minister of AGRICUL-
TURE be pleased to state :

(a) the number of poultry farms and
nutritious food distribution Centres function-
ing in the State of Madhya Pradesh, district-
wise ; and

(b) the particulars regarding the finan-
cial contribution of Centre and the State
during last three yean in this regard ?

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THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) and (b). The infor-
mation is being collected from the State
Government and will be placed on the table
of the House when collected.

Promoting Education ««**«■§ Adivasis of
Madhya Pradesh

1982. SHRI MARTAND SINGH OF
REWA • Will the Minister of EDUCATION
AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) the amount spent for Adivasis in

Madhya Pradesh* during the last three years
by way of granting scholarships and other
facilities for promoting education among them
yeai^wise and district-wise ; and

(b) the number of persons benefited by
the Scheme, district-wise ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SO-
CIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA-
SWAMY) : (a) and (b). A statement is
laid on the Table of the Sabha.

Statement

Central Sector (Rs. in lakhs)

Year

Post Matric Scholarships

Girls Hostel

Expenditure

Targets

Expenditure

Targets

1969-70

5.36*

3319 Scholarships

—

1970-71

4.39* ,

2880

0,9G

20 hostels

1971-72

5.48*

3700

1 80

20 hostels

* Excluding committed expenditure of Rs. 11. G6 lakhs

State Sector

Expenditure

'Pargets achieved

1969-70 1970-71 1971-72

(Rs. in lakhs)

87.46 120.59 190.80

1969-70 1970-71 1971-72

1. Pre-Matric 60000
Scholarships

2. Mid-day meals 6 lakhs

3. Reimbursement 5750
of tution and

Board Exam,
fees.

4. Hostels 80

5. Ashram Schools 3

6. Additional sti- 216

pends in general

I. T. I.

7. Post Matric —

hostels.

66000

75000

7 lakhs

8 lakhs

6325

6967

100

200

15 &
upgrading of
11 V* P.
Ashrams

267

300

The figures in respect of 1971-72 are anticipated. The District-wise information i*
not available.

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Sale price of Milk Products of D. M. S.
in Parliament House

1983. SIIRI K. SURYANARAYANA :
Will ihe Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) the sale price of the following pro-
ducts marketed by the Delhi Milk Scheme
and sold at the Parliament House Counter ;
(i) Milk Shake and Lassi plain ; (ii) Milk
Shake and Lassi Sweet ; (iii) Milk Shake
with Ice Cream and (iv) Milk Shake with
Ice Cream and Syrup ;

(b) whether no price chart has been dis-
played at the Stalls in Parliament House, if
.so, the reasons therefor ; and

(e) whether any measure has been laid
down foi mixing of water in Curd for pre-
paring Lassi both plain and sweetish and if
1,(3, the measurement thereof and if not, the
i casons thcicfor f

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SUER SINGH) : (a) The sale prices of
various milk pioducts sold by Delhi Milk
Scheme at the Parliament House counter are
given below :

Milk product

Price

paise per
glass

Remarks

( 1 ) Milk Shake, plain

Not sold

Lassi, plain

—

(ii) Milk Shake sweet

—

Lassi sweet

—

[ 111 ) Milk Shake with

ice cream

—

Not sold

[iv) Milk Shake with

ice cream and

with 75 cc

syrup

ice-cream

cup

128

with 125 cc

ice-cream

cup

(b) The prices of various milk products
told in the Parliament House Stall/Milk Bar
ar <* generally well known. Price charts are
hung up when any change is effected in the
sale prices.

Seats available in All India Institute
of Medical Sdences f New Delhi

1984. SHRI AJIT KUMAR SAHA :
Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMI-
LY PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) the total number of seats available in
the All India Institute of Medical Sciences,
New Delhi for graduate and postgraduate
courses ;

(b) the total number of applications
received this year for selection of the candi-
dates Statewise; and

•

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF .HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY
OF WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF.
D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) The

position in regard to availability of seats in
the under-graduate MBBS course and the
various post-graduate courses at the All India
Institute of Medical Sciences, New Delhi is
as follows :

(i) Under-graduate M.B.B.S. Course :

The total number of seats available each
year for the course is 50 out of which 10
seats are reserved for Scheduled Castes/Sche-
duled Tribes and 5 seats are reserved for
foreign students nominated by the Central
Government.

(ii) Various Post-graduate Courses :

The Total number of scats available at
present in the various post-graduate depart-
ments at the Institute is 422. The number
of seats in the various courses is fixed by the
Academic Committee of the Institute keeping
in view the available facilities in a particular
department.

(b) (i) Under-graduate M.B*B.S. Course :

The total number of applications received
this year for the 45 seats (exclusive of five
seats reserved for foreign students) was 7315.

The State-wise break-up of the candidates
selected for admission t6 the course during
the year i> given below 2

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Delhi

Bihar

Haryana

Maharashtra

Mysore

Punjab

Rajasthan

Tamil Nadu

Uttar Piadesh

(ii) Various Post-graduate Courses :

The total number of applications received
this year for the 191 seats for January to
July 1972 session available in the various post-
graduate courses was 2012'. Out of these 138
candidates were selected for admission to the
courses. The State-wise break-up of the per-
sons selected for admission is given below :

Punjab

Andhra Pradesh

Madhya Pradesh

Kerala

Maharashtra

Delhi

Tamil Nadu

Assam

Orissa

Himachal Pradesh

Haryana

Jammu and Kashmir

Mysore

U.P.

Rajasthan

West Bengal

Bihar *

Foreign Nationals

Total 138

ned by holding an All India competitive
examination. No special reservation of seats
is made State-wise. As regards the post-gra-
duate courses the selection is made purely on
basis of merit and no seats are reserved for
any particular state.

Seats in various Indian Institutes of
Technology

1985. SHRI JAGADISH BHATTACHA-
RYYA : Will the Minister of EDUCATION
AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to
state :

(a) the total number of seats available in
the five Indian Institutes of Technology all
over India for graduate courses during the
current year ;

(b) the number of applications received
from candidates according to State of origin
and the number of candidates selected from
each State ; and

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION.
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S. NURUL IIASAN) : (a) and (b).
A statement is laid on the Table of the
House. [Placed in Library See No. LT. 3377/72]

(c) Admission to the Institutes of Tech-
nology are made through a Joint Entrance
Examination. The admission of students from
different States depends upon their lanks in
the merit list of the entrance examination
and choice of their own Institutes and subject
fields.

Small and Marginal Farmers and Agri-
cultural Labour Scheme in Dibrugarh,
Assam

1986. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) whether Dibrugarh District in Assun
has a greater number of small and marginal
farmers and highest number of landless agri-
culturists ;

(b) whether the s( heme for benefit of small
and marginal fanners and agricultural labour
is proposed to be extended to Dibrugarh
district in Assam ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISRTY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) to (c). The SFDA/

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MFAL are pilot experiments which are being
tried out in 87 selected project areas. In
Assam these areas arc located in the districts
of (1) Gopalpara (2) Kamrup (3) Mikir
Hills and (4) Nowgong Hills, which were
selected in consultation with the State Gov-
ernment. There is no proposal to extend the
scheme to Dibrugarh district during the
Fourth Five Year Plan. Information regarding
the number of small and marginal farmers
and agricultural labourers in Dibrugarh dis-
trict of Assam is not available.

Economist Leaving India

1987. SHRI E. V. VIKHK PATIL :
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether the atti ntion of Government
has been drawn to the news appearing in the
Hindustan Times dated the 2Gth July, 1972
about the decision of a top economists leaving
tin countiy out of disgust ; and

(b) if so, the steps taken by Government
in the matter ?

HIE MINIS’! ER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF S NURUL HASAN) : (a) and (b).

I lie news appearing in the Hindustan Times
dated 2bth July, 1972 refers to the resignation
ol Pi of. M. C. Dalvi of Bombay University.
I hr inquired information is bung collected
fium Bombay University and statement will
he laid on the Fable of the Sabha in due

Allotment of Land to Registered Religi-
ous Institutions, New Delhi

1988. SHRI BISHWANATH JIIUNJI1U-
NWALA i Will the Minister of WORKS AND
HOUSING be pleased to refer to the reply
given to Unstarred Question No. 4141 on the
Lt may, 1972 regarding allotment of land to
Registered Religious Institutions in Delhi and
Mate :

(a) the requisite information ; and

(b) the names of the Religious Institu-
tions to whom land which was originally

marked for educational institutions has been
allotted with the area in each case and its
location ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE

MINISTRY of health and family
planning and in the ministry of
Works and housing (prof. d. p.

CHATTOPADHYAYA) 8 (a) Allotments have
been made to 22 religious Institutions in
Delhi during the last two years and 7 cases
are pending with the D.D.A. No plot origi-
nally earmarked for any educational institu-
tions has been diverted to a religious institu-
tion.

(b) In view of reply to part (a) this does
not arise.

Amount Sanctioned to various Housing
Schemes in States

1989. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) the amount sanctioned to the various
States for implementation of Housing Schemes
for (a) Hanjans, (b) Scheduled Castes and
Scheduled Tribes, in* 1971-72, State-wise;

(b) the total amount allotted under the
above scheme for 1972-73, State-wise ; and

•

(c) the names of the States from which
schemes have already been received and
expenditure involved to implement those
schemes ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA-
SWAMY) : (a) to (c). State-wise details may
be seen in the statement laid on the Table
of the House. [ Placed in Library. See No. L.T.-
3378/72]. The figures relate to the
housing schemes under the Backward Classes
Sector. Schemes are formulated and imple-
mented by the States/Union Territories
Administrations.

Financial Aid for Drinking water in Rural
and Urban Areas

1990. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will the
Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY PLA-
NNING be pleased to state ;

(a) the total financial aid given to Assam
for implementation of Drinking Water in rural
and urban areas during the last three years,
year-wise ; and

(b) the financial sanction ,for the above
works for 1972-73 ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D.
P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) and (b).
Central assistance to the State Government 9

55 Written Answm AUGUST 16, 1972 Written Answers 56

for development programmes, including water
supply scheme, is being given on the pattern
of block loans and block grants of 70% and
30%, respectively. The financial sanctions for
the individual programme like water
supply are not required to be issued by the
Central Government as these lie in the State
Sector and the State Governments are entirely
responsible for providing funds and execution
of such schemes.

1 he allocations for 1969-70 , 1970-71 , 1971-72 and
1972-73, as recommended by the Planning Commi-
ssion, are given below : —

Year

Rural Water
Supply

Urban Water
Supply (inclu-
ding Sanitation)
(Rs. in lakhs)

1969-70

60.00

37 00

1970-71

39.00

%.00

1971-72

Gencial :

21.23

68.77

Hill areas :

19.00

23.00

1972-73

72.00*

65.00*

♦Includes Rs. 21.37 lakhs for Mizoram.

Doctors Refusal to visit M.P.’s Flats

1991. SHRI SWARAN SINGH SOKHI :
Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Doctors and Lady Doctois
of Willingdon Hospital n fuse to visit the
M. P *s flats when urgently required to attend
to their babies and wives and visit only
Minister’s House when called ; and

(b) if so, the action Government propose
to take against such Doctors and Lady
Doctors who neglect the M. P. intentionally
and even ask them to wait outside ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Visiting the

patients in their homes on call does not fall
within the prescribed duties of the Medical
Officers on the Hospital strength of Willing-
don Hospital. The Central Government
Health Scheme beneficiaries are, however,
visited by the specialists of the Central

Government Health Scheme strength attached
to the Willingdon Hospital, when requisitioned
by the concerned Medical Officer of the
Central Government Health Scheme Dis-
pensary attending the patient. M. Ps. are
covered under the Central Government
Health Scheme.

(b) Any specific case of intentional eva-
sion of duty of paying domiciliaiy visits by a
Medical Officer is fully enquired into and if
after enquiry the Medical Officer, complained
against, is found at fault, lie is suitably dealt
with.

Allotment of Land to M.Ps. in Delhi

1992. SHRI SWARAN SINGH
SOKHI : Will the Mimstei of WORKS AND
HOUSING be pleased to staU :

(a) whethei Govcinmenl have dtcided to
allot land to Members of Pailiament in
Delhi and the applications made by M. Ps.
arc King with tin Dilhi Development
Authority since July, 1971 :

(b) whetln r Government purpose to take
any action against I) D. A for pending such
allotments ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HE \LTH \ND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P-
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) to (<) Govern-
ment have reserved 5% of plots developed by
the D. D. A under the low and tin middle
income groups, foi '‘sitting Mcnibf rs of
Parliament and the Metropolitan Council,
Councillors of the Municipal Corporation of
Delhi and non-official members of the Canton-
ment Board and the New Delhi Municipal
Committee'*. The plots arc allotted at pre-
determined rates to only those wlro arc
covered by the income limit prescribed for
the low and the middle income groups ard
do not own a house in Delhi, New Dilhi or
Cantonment area in their own name or in
the name of any of their dependent relations
including unmarried children. 'The appli-
cations received from the M.Ps. are forwarded
to the D. D. A. who make the allotment to
the M.Ps. against their quota according to
the date of receipt ol the application, as and
when developed plots become available for

allotment to these income groups The
question of taking any action against the
D. I). A. does not arise.

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Allotment of Accommodation to Govern-
ment Officers on their turn

1993. SHRI S. D. SOMASUNDARAM s
Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOU-
SING be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Officers entitled for type
VIII accommodation have to wait for no
time, while the officers entitled for type II
accommodation have to wait for more than
20 years for allotment of accommodation ;

(b) if so, the time likely to be taken, so
that the Officers of any rank may get their
turn at the same time after putting certain
number of years of service ; and

(c) the details of various types of
accommodation available and the number of
Officers allotted accommodation and the
nurnbei of Officers waiting for accommodation
in each category ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH ANI) FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
( :H ATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) For type VIII
accommodation in the general pool at Delhi/
New l)dhi f which is allotted to Secretaries /

Additional Secretaries to the Government of
India, the date of priority covered is MO-
1962. If the total service put in by these
officers under the Central Government/State
Government is taken into contideration, most
of them have put in service of over 20 years
but have not been allotted accommodation of
entitled type. In type II the data of priority
running is 31-12-1953.

(b) There is an acute shortage of
accommodation m general pool at Delhi /New
Delhi and it has been possible to provide
accommodation to nearly 42% of the emplo-
yees working in eligible offices. It cannot be
stated by what time it will be possible to pro-
vide accommodation to Government Servants
who have put m a certain number of years of
service. Government have a continuing pro-
gramme. of constsuction of accommodation in
the general pool and the progress depends on
the availability^ of funds, developed land,

building materials technical capacity, etc.

•

(c) A statement showing the demand for
various types in the general pool in Delhi/Ncw
Delhi, number of officers provided with
accommodation and the number of officers
waiting for allotment is attached.

Statement

Demand Jot various typi s in thi general pool in Delhi/ New Delhi y number of provided oj/uers and number

of officers waiting for allotment

Type

Demand

Total number of provided
officers

Number of officers waiting
for allotment

26,335

12,901

13,374

39,799

10,315

29,481

111

14,631

7,018

7,613

*1,353

6,036

3,317

5,107

3,481

1,626

1,376

1,035

. ^

VII

421

325

VIII

112

Total

97,134

41,269

55,865

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Written insurers

Staff Strength of Food Corporation of
India

1994. SHRI A. S. KASTURE : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) the staff strength, category-wise, in
Food Corporation of India as on the 1st
January, 1972 and the number of employees
belonging to Scheduled Caste/Tribes ;

(b) whether reservation quota for Sche-
duled Caste and Scheduled Tribes has been
maintained ;

(d) what specific steps Government pro-
pose to take to make up the shortfall ?

THE MINISTER OF §TATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) :«(a) Category-
wise staff strength in the food Corporation of
India as on the 1st January, 1V72, and the
number of employees belonging to Scheduled
Caste/Tribes is as under :

Category

Total

number

Scheduled

Caste

Scheduled

Tribes

490

1371

—

III

18849

1656

127

11361

1456

148

(b) The staff strength of the Food Corpo-
ration is mainly comprised of (i) Direct rec-
ruits (ii) Transferees from the Department
of Food and (iii) Deputationists from Central
and State Governments.

In so far as Direct recruits arc concerned,
the reservation quoia for Scheduled Caste
and Scheduled Tribes is being maintained
by the Goqjoration.

The Transferees from the Department
of Food of the Central Government arc
required to be absorbed by the Corporation
under section 12 A of the Food Corparations
Act, 1964 and as such the question of pro-
viding any reservation quota by the Food
Corporation of India for the transferees does
not arise.

The Deputationists from the Central and
State Governments are on foreign service
terms. No question of reservation is involved
in their case.

Adulteration of Fertiliser supplied by
Fertiliser Corporation of India

1995. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU: Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) whether it has come to the notice of
Government that out of 2790 bags of ferti-
liser received by rail at Kolar from the
Fertiliser Corporation of India Mangalore,
1 19 bags contained 90 per cent sand and 10
per cent fertiliser ;

(b) whether any investigation has been
made in this connection ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) to (c).
Yes, Sir. The Food Corporation of India
(and not the Feitiliscr Corporation ol India)
has reported that theic was a complaint
about the adulteration in 119 bags of the
fertiliser received from the Corporation at
Kolar. After a preliminary enquiry, the Food
Corporation of India consider that the adul-
teration, if any, could not have taken place
before despatch of the bags by the Food
Corporation of India, particularly because
there was no complaint about the quality
in respect of several thousands of other bags
simultaneously despatched from Mangalore
However, the matter is being fuither investi-
gated in consultation with the State (Jove ru-
men t.

Advice allegedly given to State Govern-
ments to seize cars having Bangla Dcsh
Nunber Plates

1996. SHRI RAMKANWAR : Will the
Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT
be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Union Gove rnment have
advised the State Governments to sci/c all
cars with Bangladesh number plates ;

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ; and

(c) how many cars have been seized
consequently by the State Governments and
what action, if any, has been taken subse-
quently ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN 'HIE
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY

Written Answers

SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAKA)

Written Answers

affairs and in the ministry of

SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRl
OM MEHTA) : (a) No, Sir.

(h) and (c). Do not arise.

Working Group for preparation of Draft
Fifth Five Year Plan

1997. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN :

SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHARIEF :

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE
be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Planning Commission
had constituted a Working Group on Co-
operation for preparation of the Draft Fifth
Five Year Plan ; and

(b) if so, its terms of reference and
fiin< tioning of its members ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASMIEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The De-
partment of Co-operation, at the instance of
the Planning Commission, have constituted a
Working Group on Cooperation for formula-
tion of the 5th Plan.

(b) The terms of reference and func-
tioning of the Working Group are given in
the Statement enclosed. [. Placed in Library . See
No. L P 33 79/72].

Setting up of National Unit for Nutrition
Monitoring in Rajasthan

vm. SlIRI NAWAL KISHORE
SI I ARM A :

SI 1 RIM ATI SAVITRI SHY AM :

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND
FAMILY PLANNING lie pleased to state :

(a) whcthei some more National Units
for iNutiition monitoring arc being set up in
Rajasthan ; and

(b) if so, the locations thereof ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY
OF WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF.
D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) and

(b). A Proposal to set up some more
Regional Monitoring Centres in diff-
erent States is under consideration of the
Indian Council of Medical Research.
T hose Centres, if put into operation, may
be located one each in the States of Punjab,
Rajasthan, Orissa, Assam, Haryana and
Bihar,

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Alleged Double Charge of Air Fares by
Professor of Sociology, 1. 1. T. Delhi

2001. SHRI JAGANNATH RAO JOSHI:
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether a Professor of Sociology at
the I. I. T., Delhi on having travelled to
Dibrugarh, Madras and Calcutta Universities
has double charged his air fare by buying a
circular round trip ticket while charging
Delhi-Dibrugarh, Delhi-Madras, Delhi-Cal-
catta air fare from the Universities ; and

(b) if so, the action taken on this irregu-
larity ?

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) and (b).
A complaint to this effect was received in
February, 1972. The Institute obtained all
the relevant information from the various
authorities concerned and referred the matter
to the Board of Governors. The Board has
appointed a two-man committee to inquire
into the matter and submit a report.

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Written Answers

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Written Answers

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Import Programme for Fertiliser

2006. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR :
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have finalized

Fertilizer Import programme for the current
year ;

(b) whether Government propose to
import costly readymade NPK complex fertilizer
from U. S. A. instead of local mixing of
cheaper and staight fertilizer elements imported
from abroad ; and

(c) whether his Ministry had any discus-
sion with public sector technologists and
Department of Economic Affairs on this
issue ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) NPK complex fertilisers are impor-
ted to facilitate the market development pro-
grammes of domestic manufacturers, whose
factories now under construction will be soon
producing such fertiliser products. Contracts
have already been entered into with the
foreign suppliers for import of complex ferti-
lisers to be allotted to these manufacturers
during the year 1972-73.

The question regarding manufacture of
NPK complex fertiliser indigenously by impor-
ting intermediates is being examined in the
Department with reference to the comparative
economies involved.

(c) Yes, Sir. The matter is under further
consideration of the Ministry of Finance in
consultation with the concerned Ministries.

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Request of Central Assistance for Lift
Irrigation Scheme in U. P.

2009. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP
SINGH : Will the Minister of AGRICUL-

TURE be pleased to state :

(a) the number of lift-irrigation schemes
for which the Uttar Pradesh Government has
asked for Central Government’s assistance ;

(b) the sites of these schemes ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) No such proposal has
been received from Uttar Pradesh Govern-
ment for Central assistance.

(b) and (c). Do not arise.

Setting Up of Water Boards to Tackle
Drinking Water Problem in Rural and

Urban Areas

2010. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURI :

SHRI *&. S. SIVASWAMY a

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) whether some States have set up
Water Boards to tackle the drinking water
problems in rural and urban areas ; and

(b) if so, the broad outlines thereof and
the progress achieved in the matter ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) and (b). Infor-
mation is being collected and will be laid
on the Table of the Sabha when received.

Appointments to Tribal Development
Blocks

2011. SHRI DASARATHA DEB: Will
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) the reason for not appointing any
single tribal to the posts of Block Development
Officer and Project Officer in the Tribal Deve-
lopment Blocks of Tripura, though there is no

dearth of Tribal Graduates in Tripura ; and

•

(b) whether Central Government propose
to investigate the matter ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCI-
AL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) :
(a) The State Government have intimated that
the posts of Project Executive officer and

Written Answers

AUGUST 16, 1972

Written Answers

Block Development Officer are included in
the cadre of Tripura Civil Service and
Tripura Junior Civil Services respectively.
There is no separate cadre Rules for appoint-
ment of Project Executive Officer and Block
Development Officer in Tribal Development
Blocks. The recruitment to these posts are
made as per provisions of aforesaid cadre
rules.

(b) The State Government have been
requested to furnish full details in the matter.

Delhi Slum Area Controlled by Munici-
pal corporation of Delhi, D. D. A. and
Land Development Authority

2012. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN : Will
the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING
be pleased to state :

(a) the percentage of Delhi slum area
controlled by the Municipal Corporation of
Delhi, Delhi Development Authority and the
Land and Development Authority separately ;

(b) whether due to three authorities
controlling Delhi slum area, it is very diffi-
cult to coordinate and work in the interest of
the residents there ; and

(c) whether there is any proposal to put
the Delhi slum area under the charge and
control of one single authonty; if so, when
a final decision is likely to be taken in this
connection ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) The Delhi
slum areas are under the control of the
Municipal Corporation of Delhi and the Delhi
Development Authority; the latter administers
colonies in an area of 1565 acres, where
squatters arc rehabilitated after being removed
from the place of squatting.

(b) and (c) For better administration of
the slum clearance and improvement scheme,
a proposal to bring all the slum areas of
Delhi under one authority is under considera-
tion. However, it is not possible to indicate
precisely any time limit by which a final
decision in the matter could be taken.

Effect on Road Building Work due to
Shortfall in Production of Road Rollers
and Shortage in Steel

2013. SHRI ARVIND NETAM : Will

the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS-
PORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether persistent shoitfall in the
production of road rollers and acute shortage
of steel required for bridges and culverts are
hampering Central Sector road building work
in the States ; and

(b) if so, the steps Government propose
to take in futuie in this direction ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI OM
MEHTA) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) With the emphasis on load develop-
ment, there has been a spuit in the demand
for road rollers. During the three calender
years 1969, 1970 and 1971 the production of
road rollers had only been 335, 386 and 336
respectively against an annual licenced capacity
of 1520 road rolleis. This was not sufficient
to meet even the back log of demands. Letteis
of intent have been issued icccntly to two more
manufacturers and the grant of such a letter
to a third party is being pioccssed. Licences
are also being given for raw materials and
components to the three units in produt lion,
and it is also proposed to grant licence for the
import of special components also in order to
increase production. The question of meeting
the shortfall is therefore engaging the serious
attention of Government.

As regards steel, its availability is at
present below the demand. Fa cry effort is
being made to improve production by the
Steel plants through technological improve-
ments, belter industrial relations etc. Mean-
while efforts are also being made to import
additional quantity of steel required for
execution of Central road/bridge schemes
during the period of the Fomth Plan.

Funds to N. D. M. C. Improvement in
Slum Areas

2014. SHRI ARVIND NETAM : Will
the Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING
be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have sanctioned
Rs. 3 lakhs to the New Delhi Municipal
Committee for canying out impiovcments in
slum areas in the city ; and

(b) if so, the reasons for not giving
grants to the Delhi Municipal Corpoiation
where much more slum area exists ?

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Written Anw*s

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Yes.

(b) The proposals received from the
Municipal Corporation of Delhi recently are
under scrutiny.

Reviews by Planning Commission of
Crash Programme for Rural Employment

2015. SHRX SAMAR MUKHERJEE :
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) whether Goveirunent’s attention has
been drawn to the Planning Commission’s
review of the crash scheme for rural employ-
ment in 1971-72 ;

(b) if so, whetlx i Government ha\c
noted the Commission's conclusion that the
scheme* lias tailed to reach the mark in

1971-72 ; and

(c) the reasons for this fail uie and the
steps taken by the Government to fulfil its
pledges regarding providing of employment
to 1000 needy poisons m every district ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF XGRICULJ URK (PROF.
S1IER SINGII) : (a) and (b). No review of
the Crash Scheme for Rural Employment in
1971-72 has been made by the Planning
Commission. No such conclusion has been
rcac hcd.

The Scheme envisaged an expenditure
of Rs. 50 nores and the generation of 875
lakh mandays of employment in a full work-
ing season of 10 months. The expenditure
reported so far is Rs. 32.37 crorcs and this
has resulted in the generation of 808.22 lakh
mandays of employment. It may be added
that information in regard to employment is
collected in terms of mandays and not in
terms oi number of persons employed as the
period of employment varies from person to
person and from project to project. It is
roughly estimated that more than 3.2 lakhs of
persons have been employed during the year
for varying periods. This woiks out on an
average to 957 persons per district for the 348
districts for which proposals were approved.
In actual fact, however, the position varies

from State to State and district to district
and the performance of some have not come
up to the mark. It is expected that with the
completion of administrative arrangements,
performance will be definitely better during
1972-73.

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Hook Worm Infection in Human Body

2017. SHRI G. Y. KRISHNAN : Will
the Minister of HEALT H AND FAMILY
PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) whether the team headed by Prof.
R. Vishwanathan of Vallabhai Patel Chest
Institute, Delhi and other medical authorities
have made suney that ever}’ third man had
hook woim infection and varying degrees of
anaemia ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of Government
thereto ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY

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PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) and (b). A team
of experts from Raj end ra Memorial Research
Institute of Medical Sciences, Patna, headed
by Dr. R. Vishwanathan conducted a random
representative morbidity survey in Dhanbad
Jharia Coal Mines Area. It was found that
39 2% of the miners examined had hook-worm
infection and 41.97% suffered from anaemia
with haemoglobin less than 12 grams. No
detailed report of the team has been received.

Agreement with Foreign Countries for
exchange of Experts in Agricultural
Science

2018. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to refer to the reply given SQ, 16 on 3 1st
July, 1972 regarding talks cm Indo-Egyptian

cooperation in Agriculture and state :

»•

(a) whether Egypt is the first country
with which India has entered* into the agree-
ment for exhange of information and experts
in agricultural science and technology for
mutal benefit of the two countries ; and

(b) if not, which are the other countries ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b).
Yes Sir. We have entered into a similar
agreement with U. S. S. R. in 1971.

Acquisition of India Office Library in
London

2019. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : Will the
Minister of EDUCATIGN AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) when India and Pakistan have
entered into peace pact and normalization of
relations is taking place, whether any efforts
are in progress fur the acquisition of India
office Library at London ;

(b) the progress made in this direction
so far ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) :
(a) to (c). Draft Agreement for arbitration
received from the U. K. Government has
been under examination. The context in which
discussions regarding the India Office Library

have been taking place, has changed. Renewed
discussions between the parties concerned may
be necessary.

Crash Programme for Rural Employ-
ment in Goa

2020. SHRI PURUSHOTTAM KAKO-
DKAR : Will the Minister of AGRICUL-
TURE be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Goa Government is to
execute the crash programme for rural employ-
ment ; and

(b) if so, whether the Goa Government
has decided to create special technical cell for
the purpose ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) No, Sir.

Steps to obtain Adequate Supplies of
Fertilisers

2021. SHRI N. K. SANGHI : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) whether there is world shortage of
fertilisers and, if so, how it is likely to affect
India ;

(b) the quantum of fertiliser required to
meet the country's needs over that available
from indigenous production ; and

(c) whether the commitments made by
foreign suppliers against our firm orders will
be fully honoured and if not, the steps
Government propose to take to obtain
adequate supplies ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Yes, Sir.
There is relative scarcity of Fertiliser in the
world market. This may make it difficult for
Government of India to import required
quantities at satisfactory prices.

(b) During Kharif 1972, it is expected
that the country will require about 8.70 lakh
tonnes of N, 2.87 lakh tonnes of P and 1.38
lakh tonnes of K20 of this 5.64 tonnes of N,
2.42 lakh tonnes of P205 and 0.75 lakh tonnes
of K20 will be available from the stock in the
country and the domestic production. The
balance of requirements i. e. 3.06 lakh tonnes

of N, 0.45 lakh tonnes of P and 0.63 lakh
tonnes K20 have to be met from imports.

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(c) It is likely that there will be some
shortfalls in supply by foreign suppliers.
However, Minerals and Metals Trading
Corporation and Department of Supply have
been alerted to keep a close watch on the
shipment position which is also being reviewed
frequently in this Department.

Government have also taken a number of
steps to ensure that the available quantities
of fertilisers are put to the most productive
use. The steps taken include (a) take over of
30% of the domestic production of Ammonium
Sulphate to be distributed by the Central
Fertiliser Pool, (b) promulgation of orders
under the Essentia] Commodities Act making
it legally obligatory for the manufacturers to
supply the committed quantities of fertilisers
to the States and (c) plans by State Govern-
ments to use fertilisers for priority crops in
the interests of maximising production.

Stoppage of grant of Loans by Neemnch
Central Cooperative Bank for irrigation
purposes

2022. DR. LAXMINARAYAN PANDEY :
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) whether Reserve Bank of India has
stopped Neemuch Central Cooperative Bank,
Mandsaur (Madhya Pradesh) from granting
loans for irrigation purposes ; and

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b).
The Neemuch Central Cooperative Bank's
programme for financing the sinking of wells
was studied by an officer of the Reserve
Bank. The study revealed that the Bank’s
medium-term loans policy for this purpose
was defective in certain important aspects.
Although there were 56,000 existing irrigation
wells in the District, the bank had programmed
to finance another 1,000 new wells in 71-72*
The land development bank had a separate
scheme for financing 4,000 new dug wells.
Certain technical studies by the Director of
tube-wells were considered necessary to ensure
that a large increase in the number of wells
would not adversely affect the availability of
water in the existing wells due to over-
exploitation of ground water resources. The
Reserve Bank, therefore, restrained the
Neemuch Central Cooperative Bank from
issuing fresh loans for construction of wells
for the present till the defects noticed by the

study were removed. However, the Reserve
Bank released a further limit of Rs. 10 lakhs
to enable the bank to issue the remaining
instalments of the loans in respect of wells
already financed partially and under construc-
tion so that they could be completed quickly.
The whole effort is to ensure that the bank
follows a rational and scientific policy in
financing the construction of wells.

Addiction to drinks among Delhi Uni-
versity Students

2023. SHRI PRABODH CHANDRA:
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether addiction to drinks is increas-
ing amongst the students of Delhi University ;
and

(b) if so, the steps Government have
taken to prevent this evil ?

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN): (a) The
Delhi University has intimated that there are
no reports to show that addiction to drinks is
increasing among the students of the Uni-
versity.

(b) Does not arise.

Setting up of Rural Road Commissions

2024. SHRI SHRIKISHAN MODI :

SHRI P. GANGADEB :

Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether any decision has been taken
for setting up of Rural Road Commissions at
the Centre and in the States ; and

(b) if so, the outlines of the decision
taken in the matter ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI
OM MEHTA) : (a) No, Sir.

(b) Does not arise.

Muld-Lingual Figures on Number Plates
of Vehicles*

2025. SHRI VEKARIA :

SHRI AMAR NATH CHAWLA :

Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have decided

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to end the multi-lingual figures on the number
plates of vehicles in different States ; and

(b) If so, the manner in which the
change is to be brought about ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI OM
MEHTA) : (a) and (b). The Government
of India have appointed a Working Group in
July 1972, to examine Lhe question regarding
the language to be used for the dtsplay of
registration marks on motor vehicles. Further
action in the matter will be taken after this
Group’s repoit has been received and exa-
mined.

Admission of Women Patients in Lady
Hardinge Hospital, fiew Delhi

2026. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE
SHARMA : Will the Minister of HEALTH
AND FAMILY PL\N.\TNC % be pleased to
state :

(a) whether the Board of Directors of the
Lady Hardinge Hospital, New Delhi have
instructed for admission of all the women
patients in the Hospital but they have not
sanctioned an increase in the number of beds
in the Hospital, if so, whether more than one
patient arc provided one bed ;

(b) whether no attention is paid to patients
particularly women at the time of delivery
and even supply of water is not adequate to
meet the minimum demand during winter
period ; and

(c) w'hcther Government have appointed
a Committee to go into the details and to
attend to such complaints if so, the findings
thereof ?

TIIE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) At present

there are 580 beds in this Hospital and this
is not sufficient to meet the demands of the
public. The guiding principle is not to refuse
admission of any case requiring immediate
medical care. Instructions have been issued
not to put more than one patient in one bed.

. (b) No.

has been asked to conduct an enquiry. His
report has not yet been received.

Request from States for Increased Quota
of Fertilisers

2027. SHRI NAWAL KISHORE
SHARMA : Will the Minister of AGRICUL-
TURE be pleased to state :

(a) the names of the States who have req-
uested the Central Government to increase
their quota of fertilisers ;

(b) the extent to which the Government
propose to increase their quota of fertilisers ;
State- wise ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANN AS AH EB P. SHINDE) : (a) The quar-
terly allotments of Pool fertiliser for the July-
Septcmber quarter were issued in July 72 after
taking into account the requirements of diffe-
rent States for Kharif 72 the supplies already
made in April- June 72 period and the require-
ments of stock building for Rabi 1972-73.
After the issue of quarterly allotment, requests
for enhancement have been received from
certain States on various grounds including
the need for the Pool making good alleged
shortages in the promised supplies by domes-
tic manufacturers. These States are Punjab,
Maharashtra, Madhya Pradesh, West Bengal,
Himachal Pradesh, and Pondicherry.

(b) and (c). The matter is proposed to
be reviewed in all its aspects including latest
trends and needs of consumption and the
availability of domestic and imported ferti-
lisers, in the Zonal Conferences scheduled to
be held in Septunbcr-October 1972 and adjust-
ments in Pool Allotments and supplies will be
made in the light of that review.

Construction of Road connecting New
Delhi with Old Delhi

2028. SlIRI NAWAL KISHORE
SHARMA : Will the Minister of WORKS
AND HOUSING be pleased to state :

(a) the starting, termination and new
alignment to be provided between New Delhi
and Old Delhi by road through the New
Delhi Municipal Committee new building
under construction ;

(b) the time by which the construction
of the road is to commence ;

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(d) if so, the main features thereof ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) As per Master
Plan for Delhi, a new road connection is pro-
posed between the Old Delhi and New Delhi.
The alignment goes along the Turkman Gate,
Ranjit Singh Marg joining School Lane by
an overbridge on the railway, then link School
Lane, Tolstoy Marg and extension of Tolstoy
Marg upto Parliament Street. There is at
present no proposal for the extension of this
alignment from Parliament Street through the
New Delhi Municipal Committee's new
building.

(b) The scheme has not yet been finalised.

Inclusion of Kudumbi and Vellan Com-
munity in List of Scheduled Castes

2029. SHRI G. K. CHANDRAPPAN :
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whethei Government have received
any representation for the inclusion of the
Kudumbi Community and the Vellan commu-
nity of Kerala in the list ol Scheduled Castes ;
and

(b) if so, the decision taken thereon ?

THE DEPUTN MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) :
(a) Yes, Sir. In respect of Kudumbi and
Velan Communities.

(b) The whole question of revision of list
of Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes is
under consideration.

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D. D. A. Draft Zonal Plan for the Walled
City of Delhi

2031. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI :
Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS-
ING be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Delhi Development autho-
rity had prepared and published a draft zonal
plan for the walled city of Delhi ; if so, the
broad outlines thereof ;

(b) whether Government received a
number of representations against this pro-
posal ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) *Yes, Sir. Five
plans have been published for inviting objec-
tions and suggestions. The area of the walled
city has been divided into 14 zones. The plans
have been prepared in accordance with the
recommendations of the Master Plan. While
preparing these plans, the area of each zone
has been divided into three categories, i. e.

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area under conservation, rehabilitation and
clearance/redevelopment.

(b) Yes, Sir. Over 800 objections /sugges-
tions have been received.

(c) These objections/suggestions will be
examined in detail by the Delhi Development
Authority and the final draft prepared keeping
in view the public opinion. The final draft
will then be sent to Government for approval.

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Salvage of Sub-Standard Rice unearthed
ih West Bengal

2033. SHRI N. K. SANGHI ; Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to state
how much of the sub-standard rice unearthed
from Food Corporation of India Godown in
West Bengal could be salvaged and how the
rest has been disposed of ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : The stocks of
non-Bengal raw rice are subjected to pre-ins-
pection by the State Government's Inspectors
in the godowns of the Food Corporation of
India in West Bengal. Such stocks as are
declared as sub-standard judged by the State
Government’s specifications which arc slightly
more stringent than the uniform specifications
of the Government of India, are subjected
to cleaning through the cleaning machines.
As such, the cleaning of non-Bengal raw rice
before issue has become a regular feature.
The rice after cleaning is accepted by the
State Government. The fine dust and small
brookens collected as a result of cleaning arc
disposed of as poultry feed in accordance with
the standing procedure.

The actual quantity cleaned and issued
during this year as a result of pre- inspection
by the State Government is being ascertained.

Tuberculosis in States

2034. SHRI DH ARAM RAO AFZAL-
PURKAR :

SHRI BHARAT SINGH
CHAUHAN :

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) the number of persons in the country
suffering from tuberculosis State-wise ; and

(b) the number of new T. B. Hospitals
Government planned to open in each State
during the Fourth Five Year Plan and the
amount of money sanctioned for this purpose ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P,
GHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Tuberculosis

is not a notifiable disease and as such, the
precise data regarding the exact number of
persons suffering from tuberculosis in the coun-
try is not available. However, the estimated
number of the persons suffering from the
disease is given in the statement laid on the
Table of the House. [Placed in Library. See No.
LT. 3380/72].

(b) During the Fourth Five Year Plan it
has been proposed to establish 2500 TB beds
for which a sum of Rs. 227.00 lakhs has been
allocated for various State/Union Territory
Governments. A statement showing T, B.
Isolation beds proposed to be established in

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the States/Union Territoiies during Fourth
Plan period is laid on the Table of the House.
[Placed in Library. See No. LT. 3380/72].

Capitation Fee for Admission to Private
Medical Colleges

2035. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU :

SHRI K BALADHANDAYU-

THAM :

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) the number of private medical colleges
now functioning in the country and the
number of them that arc recognised ;

(b) whether some Colleges are function-
ing without pioper staff and equipments ;

(d) if so, the steps taken by Government
to discourage the functioning of unrecognised
colleges and to eliminate the practice of taking
capitation fee from students 7

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) There arc four-
teen pnvate medical colleges functioning in
the country. Out of this, five medical colleges
have yet to be recognised.

(b) Yes It has been reported that some
of these colleges have not the full complement
of stair and cquipnv nt.

(d) The Government of India have already
requested the State Governments and Univer-
sities to discouiage the starting of any more
medical colleges in the private sector, on the
basis of charging capitation fees unless the
State Governments/Universities arc satisfied
with their financial viability and capacity to
maintain the standards laid down by the
Medical Council of India.

Review of Land Reforms by Planning
Commission

2036. SHRI M. KATHAMUTHU :

SHRI B. V. NAIK:

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be

pleased to state :

(a) whether the Planning Commission has
recently published a review of the country’s
land reform measures since 1947;

(b) if so, the main features of that review;

and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The Plann-
ing Commission has not recently published any
review of the country’s land reform measures.
The concerned Division of the Planning Com-
mission has, however, prepared a working
paper reviewing the progress of land reforms
in the country. •

(b) Statement* is laid on the Table of
the House [ Placed in Library. See No. LT-
3381/72].

(c) The paper was prepared to initiate
discussions in the Planning Commission and
does not necessarily project the views of the
Planning Commission on the subject of land
reforms. Hence there L no question of the
Government taking any steps on the basis of
the paper.

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Bus Service in Delhi since D.T.U. take over

2011. SHRI K. BALADHANDAYU-
THAM: Will the Minister of SHIPPING
AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state:

(a) whether there has been no substantial
improvement in ljus services in the capital
since the Delhi Transport Undertaking was
taken over by the Centre ,

(b) if so, the reasons therefor; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
DEPARTMEN V OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI OM
MEHTA) : (a) to (c). A number of steps have
been taken since 3-11-1971 when the manage-
ment of the City Transport Services was transfer-
red to a statutory Road Transport Corporation
to improve the operation of the bus services in
the capital. These have resulted in increase in
the number of buses on road, i eduction in the
working deficits and missing of trips and be-
tter utilisation of vehicles. This has enabled
the Corporation to introduce new routes and
aLo extend a few existing ones. Shuttle ser-
vices have also been introduced from hospitals
in the evenings for the convenience of visitors.
Additional special trips have been provided
for students. Steps have also been taken to
provide additional depots, which will help in
the improved maintenance of the fleet.

Orders have been placed for 291 addi-
tional buses. Out of these, 133 have already
been added to the fleet. The remaining vehi-
cles are also expected to be received and com-
missioned into service by October, 1972. It
has also been decided to acquire 425 more
buses during 1972-73 and 1973-74, Out of this
250 arc expected to be received by the end of
current financial year and the balance in the
next one. With the augmentation of the fleet,
the services are expected to further improve.

Written Answtrs

AUGUST 16, 1972

Written Answers

Setting up of a Commission to suggest
Prices of Agricultural Produce

2042. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHARIEF :
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) whether there is any proposal under the
consideration of Government to set up a Com-
mission to suggest prices of agricultural pro-
duce commensurate with the increased cost of
productions; and

(b) if so, the reaction of Government in
this regard ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEBP. SHINDE) : (a) and (b). There
is already an Agricultural Prices Commission
which makes recommendations in regard to
support/procurement prices for major agricul-
tural commodities after consic^ration of diffe-
rent factors, including the interests of the pro-
ducer and the consumer. Fqr doing so, it
takes into account the available data on cost
of production and other relevant information.
There is no proposal for constituting another
similar body.

Population of Shepherds and Steps for
there Uplift

2043. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHARIEF :

SHRI RANABAHADUR SINGH :

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE
be pleased to state :

(a) the population of shepherds in India
at present statewise ; and

(b) the steps Government have taken to
improve their social and economic conditions
of this community ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) The figures for popula-
tion of Shepherds in India for 1971 Census are
not yet available. The population of the She-
pherds in India according to 1961 Census is as
per statement enclosed.

(b) As a par\ of the Fourth Five Year Plan
for Sheep Development, the State Governments
have sanctioned schemes which provide for dis-
tribution of stud quality rams required for im-
provement of the local sheep, provide health
cover, guidance to the sheep rearing commu-
nity for improving the sheep-husbandry prac-
tices, scientific shearing of sheep, preparation
of wool for the market. Large scale sheep shear-

ing, wool grading and marketing programme
has been taken up in the States of Rajasthan,
J & K, Himachal Pradesh, Punjab, Haryana,
Madhya Pradesh, Gujarat and Mysore with the
assistance of U N.D.P. Under this programme,
benefits of mechanical shearing are made availa-
ble to the sheep rearing community. In certain
States, wool is being purchased from the sheep
breeders which is sold at the Wool Grading
Centres, after grading.

Statement

Population of Sheep Rearing Community in India

1961-Census

ZnnejState

Persons

India

372,988

States

1 .

Andhra Pradesh

158,424

Assam

Bihar

7,590

Gujarat

6,003

Jammu & Kashmir

2,562

Kerala

192

Madhya Pradesh

5,423

Madras

1,718

Maharashtra

57,790

10.

Mysore

56,479

11.

Orissa

770

12.

Punjab

13,521

13.

Rajasthan

39,254

14.

Uttar Pradesh

19,973

15.

West Bengal

642

Union Territories

1 .

Andaman & Nicobar Islands

—

Delhi

Himachal Pradesh

2,475

Laccadive, Minicoy Islands

—

Manipur

—

Tripura

Dadra & Nagar Haveli

Goa, Daman & Diu

—

Pondicherry

10.

N. E. F. A.

—

11.

Nagaland

—

12.

Sikkim

Source : Census of India, 1961. Vol. I,
Part II — B(i) p. 389.

Written Answers

SRAVANA 25, 1894 {SAKA)

Written Answers

New Varieties of Cotton Developed by
University of Agricultural Science,
Bangalore

2044. SHRI C. K. JAFFER SHAR1EF *
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) whether two new varieties of Cotton
developed by the University of Agricultural
Science, Bangalore have been released by
Union Government ; and

(b) if so, the extent to which it will
help India in saving foreign exchange ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
AN NAS AH EB P. SHINDE) : (a) The All-
India Cotton Workshop held at Surat in
June, 1972 had recommended the release of
the two new cotton strains hybrid Varalaxmi
and variety GS-2 3 evolved by the University
of Agricultural Sciences, Bangalore. These
varieties have been recommended for culti-
vation in Mysore State. As per the present
procedures regarding the release of varieties
the State Variety Release Committees are
competent to release the varieties recommen-
ded bv the Workshop for their States.

[\>) Of the above two varieties, Vara-
laxrni hybrid has been found suitable for
spinning up to 60s. In a test conducted at
one of the mills in Bangalore it has been
reported as suitable for replacing Sudan/
Egyptian mixings used in that mill.

The saving in foreign exchange will
depend on the commercial production and
large scale utilisation by the textile industry.
It is too early to estimate the saving in
foreign exchange at this stage.

Scheme for Joint Farming of Surplus
Land

2045. SHRI HARI SINGH : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state whether Government are adopting a
policy of joint farming of all surplus land in
the country instead of distribution it to the
landless individuals ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : It was sug-
gested in the Second and Third Five Year
Plans that in the matter of settlement of land
acquired inconsequence of the application
of ceilings, tenants displaced as a result of
resumption of land for personal cultivation

farmers with uneconomic holdings and land-
less workers should receive preference. It
was also proposed that settlement should be
made, as far as possible, on cooperative lines.
The Chief Ministers’ Conference which was
held on 23rd July, 1972 has recommended
that in the matter of distribution of surplus
land priority should be given to the landless
agricultural workers particularly those belong-
ing to Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes.
They will be encouraged to take up joint
farming but will not be compelled to do so.

Steps to preserve Gond (Swamp Deer)
from extinction

2046. SHRI HARI SINGH :

SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY:

Will the Minuter of AGRICULTURE
be pleased to state ;

(a) whether ftovernment are aware that
the Gond (Swamp deer) a rare species in the
world, is on tfie verge of extinction in the
country ; and

(b) if so, steps Government propose to
check the extinction of gond (Swamp deer) in
the country ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) and (b). The infor-
mation is being collected and will be laid on
the Tabic of the Sabha in due course.

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AUGUST 16, 1972

Written Answers

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Inclusion of Sports as Part of Education

2048. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN-
THAM : Will the Minister of EDUCATION
AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have received
any proposal from the President of the All
India Council of Sports to include Sports as
a part of education ;

(b) if so, the gist of the proposals ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE (STIR I K. S. RAMA-
SWAMY) : (a) to (c). No Sir.

Development of Shipping Facilities

2049. SHRI YAMUNA PRASAD
MANDAL : Will the Minister of SHIPPING
AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether any steps have been taken by
Government for the development of shipping
facilities particularly in view of the limitations
imposed by the Shipping Conference with
which India is concerned ; and

(b) if so, the broad outlines thereof ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT-
ARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) :
(a) and (b), Development of shipping facilities
is one of the objectives of the Government
and the Fourth Plan envisages a target of
40.00 lakhs grt. of which 35 lakhs grt. are to
be in operation and 5.00 lakhs grt. on order.
The steps taken by Government for the
development of shipping arc given below :

L Reservation of coastal trade to
national shipping.

2. setting up of Shipping Corporation
in the public sector.

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SR A VAN A 25, 1894 (SAKA)

Written Answers

3. Development of ship building industry
in the public sector.

4. Grant of preference to Indian ships
in the allotment of Government
controlled cargoes.

5. Grant of loans on concessional terms
to Indian shipping companies for the
acquisition of additional tonnage.

6. Making available foreign credit for
the acquisition of tonnage.

7. Grant of development rebate of
40 percent of cost of ship — available
upto the end of the 4th plan.

8. Introduction of bilateral shipping
services with countries like USSR,
Poland, UAR and GDR.

9. Enhancement of the limit of foreign
participation in the shipping industry
from 25 to 40 percent with effect
from 1963.

10. Revision and consolidation of the
Merchant Shipping Laws.

1 1 . Establishment of training institutions
for personnel.

12. Improvement of the system of re-
cruitment of seamen and the esta-
blishment of the Seamen’s Employ-
ment Offices.

13. Establishment of advisory bodies like
the National Shipping Hoard, Mer-
chant Navy Tiaming Board and the
National Welfare Board.

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Text Books In M. P. State Showing J & K
as an Independent Country

2052. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH

MALIK :

SHRI RAM PRAKASH

Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether some text books in Madhya
Pradesh State show Jammu and Kashmir
State as an independent country along with
Ceylon and Nepal ; and

(b) if so, the action taken against such
publishers ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA-
SWAMY) : (a) and (b). Necessary informa-
tion is being collected and will be laid on the
Table of the Sabha as soon as possible.

Effect on delivery Schedules of Vlsakha-
patnam Shipyard due to npn-Adherence
to delivery Schedules by Indigenous
Suppliers

2053. SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY:
Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether non-adherence to delivery

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AUGUST 16, 1972

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100

schedules by indigenous suppliers has upset
the delivery schedules of the Visakhapatnam
shipyard, blocked huge working capital and
retarded implementation of the Rs. 8 crore
development plan for over two years ; and •

(b) if so, the manner in which Govern-
ment propose to relieve the situation ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI
OM MEHTA) : (a) and (b). It is true to
a certain extent that non-adherence to delivery
schedules by certain indigenous suppliers is
one of the several factors contributing to the
delay and consequential blocking up capital
and retardation of the implementation of
development plans of Hindustan Shipyard
Limited Government, hqwever, have ende-
avoured to relieve the situation. The
Shipyard's technical officer* regularly visit the
suppliers in order to expedite and to reassess
their capacity. Government also favourably
consider proposal for importing of equipment
which cannot be supplied indigenously.
Recently, Government have set up a Steering
Committee to examine inter alia the capacity
of indigenous firms to adhere to delivery terms
and to watch the progress with reference to
such capacity.

New Scheme of Agricultural Credit for
Small, Medium and big Farmers

2054. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
refer to the reply given to Unstarred Ques-
tion No. 196 on the 15th November, 1971,
regarding New policy to provide credit to
agriculturists, and state the progress made in
respect of scheme for agricultural credit to
meet the needs of small, medium and big
farmers in the country ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : The Fourth
Plan policy relating to agricultural credit in
favour of smaller farmers was given in reply
to the Lok Sabha Question No. 196 There
is no scheme for agricultural credit to meet
the needs of small, medium and big farmers in
in the country. As mentioned in the earlier
reply, the Government policy is to orient the
loaning policy and procedures of the financ-
ing institutions in favour of smaller farmers.
Relaxations have been made in the procedures
followed by the cooperative institutions like

share capital to be collected and security
requirements in favour of the small farmers ;
commercial banks also followed liberalised
patterns is lending to the small farmers. The
Agricultural Refinance Corporation has exten-
ded concession of 100% refinance for schemes
in the Small Farmers Development Agency /
Marginal Fanners and Agricultural Labourers
Agencies' areas upto 30th June, 1973.

The available data indicate that :

(i) During 1969-70, in ten States and
five Union Territories, out of the total of Rs.
403 crores issued as short and medium term
loans Rs. Ill crores (27.5%) were advanced
to land holders upto 2 hectares each ; and Rs.
23 crores (5.7%) to tenants and agricultural
labourers. Thus 33.2% of the total advance
from cooperatives were generally to the weaker
sections ;

(ii) Similarly during 1969-70, in ten
States and two Union Teinlories, out of a
total of Rs. 88 31 crores, issued as long-term
loans by cooperative land development banks,
Rs. 21.93 crores, i. e. about 25 c /o were to
cultivators having holdings upto two hectares.

(iii) As on 25-12-1970, out of Rs. 184.26
crores outstanding, under-direct finance for
agriculture, from the fourteen nationalised
commercial banks and State Bank of India
Group, Rs. 40.55 crores representing 22%,
were to farmers with holdings upto five acres
each ;

(iv) The Credit Guarantee Scheme
covered small loans (upto Rs. 2,500 for short-
term production purposes and upto Rs. 10,000
for term loans) advanced to farmers and
agriculturists, amounting to Rs. 438.07 lakhs
by the end of June, 1971, This rose to Rs.
715.51 lakhs by 30th September, 1971.

Foreign Agricultural Experts Working
in the Country

2055. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) the number of foreign agricultural
experts who are at present in the country ;
and

(b) whether Government propose to
reduce the number of foreign agricultural
experts ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) 148.

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(b) It has been the consistent policy of
the Government to have only those Foreign
Experts in the country as are considered
absolutely indispensable in their respective
fields. The position is teviewed periodically,
to implement this policy.

Sales Centres By F. C. I.

2056. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY :
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) whether there are some sales centres
of the Food Corporation of India functioning
in the country and if so the broad outlines
thereof ;

(b) whether the said corporation has
decided to open some more centres ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANN AS AH EU P. SIIINDE) : (a) to (c).

The Food Corporation of India had opened
11 sale* centres between 27.3.1972 and the
beginning of August, 1972. However, in
pursuance of the recent decision of the Govern-
ment to channelise all supplies of foodgrains
in the Ccntial Pool through the established
public distribution system, sales of foodgrains
through the Sales centres have been suspended.

Standard Pooled Licence Fee for Type
II Quarters in D. I. Z. Area

2057. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY :
Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS-
ING be pleased to state :

(a) whether the standard pooled licences
fee under F. R. 4 5- A per month for the type
II quarters in DIZ area is Rs. 42.00 ;

(b) whether some allottees arc being
charged more than the said rent ; and

(c) if so, the facts thereof and the reasons
for the same and the steps taken by Govern-
ment to reimburse the excess charges already
collected ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) and (c). The rale of pooled standard

licence fee of newly constructed multistoreyed
type II quarters in D. I. Z. area had not
been fixed at the time of allotment of these
quarters. The recovery of licence fee was
commenced at 10% of the emoluments of the
allottees in order to avoid accumulation of
arrears. In some cases, where 10% of the
emoluments happen to be more than the
standard pooled licence fee, the amount
recovered in excess will be refunded or adjus-
ted against future recoveries after a review of
such accounts is completed.

Priority Reached for Allotment of
Accommodation to Central Government
Employees

2058. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY :

SHRI HUKAM CHAND
KAGHWAI :

Will the Minister of WORKS AND
HOUSING be pissed to state :

(a) the date of priority reached for the
allotment of residential accommodation to the
Central Government Employees in Types IV,
III and II quarters on the 1st August, 1972
in the Capital ;

(b) whether some applications have been
asked to cover certain date of priority for
each Type if so, the facts thereof and the
expected date to be covered in each type ;
and

(c) the steps taken by Government to
provide the accommodation to those employees
who have put more than 20 years of service
and are without any shelter ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) The dates of
priority, as covered on the 1st August, 1972,
is so far as general pool accommodation at
Delhi/New New/Delhi is concerned, are as
under : —

Type II = 1-12-1953

Type III = 2- 7-1945

Type IV = 11,5-1944

(b) For the allotment year beginning
from the 1st August, 1970 applications were
invited on a restricted basis and the dates of
priority upto which applications in these types
were invited are as under : —

Type II = 31-12-1955

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Type 111 31-12-1950

Type IV = 31-12-1948

These dates were determined keeping in
view the vacancies likely to become available
during that allotment year and the new units
likely to be completed.

(c) Duiing the remaining period of the
Fourth Five Year Plan, it is expected that
3,772 new units would be added in lower
types to the general pool in Delhi and it is
likely that Government servants with over 20
years of service will be provided accommoda-
tion on addition of these units.

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Leprosy in the Country

2061. SHRI RANABAIIADUR SINGH :
WU1 the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING be pleased to state ;

(a) whether Government have undertaken
any survey to study the pattern and severity
of incidence of leprosy in the country ;

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(b) whether Government are aware that
some villages like Rambida on the North-East
Border of Madhya Pradesh have more than
fifty percent villages suffering from advanced
stages of leprosy ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Yes. Metho-

dical and systematic survey has been under-
taken throughout the country from 1955.

(b) Madhya Pradesh is a low endemic
State, the prevalence rate of leprosy being
less than 0.5% in general. The State Health
authorities have icported that no village in
Madhya Piadesh has 50% villagers suffering
from lepiosy.

(c) The National Leprosy Control Pro-
gramme, which is being implemented in the
country, is a Centrally Sponsored Scheme
during the Fourth Five Year Plan with 100%
Central assistance to the State and Union
Territory Governments. The programme
provides for establishment of Leprosy Control
Units, Survey Education and Treatment Cen-
tres and for upgradation of the Leprosy
Subsidiary Centres to Leprosy Control Units.
So far 227 Leprosy Control Units and 1423
Survey Education and Treatment Centres
have been established in the country under
this programme. Besides, 37 Leprosy Control
Centres by voluntary organisations have also
been established. So far, 89.3 million popula-
tion has been cov< i :d and 10.28 lakhs leprosy
cases have been recorded for treatment.

In Madhya Pradesh alone, 6 Leprosy
Control Units, 71 Survey Education and
one Leprosy Control Centre by a voluntary
organisation are functioning under this pro-
gramme. 2.73 million population has been
coveted and 17,887 cases have been recorded
for treatment.

Setting up of Soil Testing Laboratories

2062. SHRI J. MATHA GOWDER :
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) the main features of the pilot scheme
for the establishment of Soil Testing Labora-
tories by selected co-operatives, which has
been formulated by the N. C. D. G. ;

(b) barring the four Co-operatives in the
States of Haryana and Maharashtra that have
been assisted under this scheme, how many
soil testing laboratories have been set up in
the country ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The scheme
envisages establishment of soil testing labora-
tories each with a capacity to test 30,000
samples per year, and involving non-recurring
expenditure of Rs. 1.7 lakhs and recurring
expenditure of Rs. 80,000 per annum.

(b) Under the National Cooperative
Development Corporation scheme, one co-
operative in Madhya Pradesh (in addition to
three in Maha&shtra and one in Haryana)
has so far been assisted (Apart from these five,
there are 200 other Soil Testing Laboratories
in the Country including 31 Mobile Vans).

(c) Under this scheme, the N. C. D. C.
provides to the State Governments, outside
their Plan ceiling, longterm loans @ Rs. 1.70
lakhs per soil Testing Laboratory towards the
non-recurring expenditure, which is passed on
by the State Government to the Society con-
cerned in the form of share capital
(Rs 1 lakh) and loan (Rs. 70,000).

Credit Provided to Marketing Coopera-
tives for Procurement Stocking and Dis-
tribution of Fertilisers and other Agricul-
tural Inputs

2063. SHRI J. MATHA GOWDER : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) the State- wise allocation of maigin
money provided by the Central Government
to Marketing Cooperatives for undertaking
procurement, stocking and distribution of
fertilisers and other agricultural imputs from
1969-70, 1970-71 and 1971-72 ;

(b) The extent of credit limits extended
to these Cooperative wholesalers in the various
States by the Reserve Bank of India, State
Bank of India, State Cooperatives Banks and
other nationalised banks for undertaking ferti-
liser business on a large scale ; and

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107

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) i (a) A statement
(No. 1) is placed on the Table of the House.
[Placed in Library . See No. LT. 3383/72].

(b) The information is being collected.

I. I. T., Delhi Notification Regarding Out-
standing Temporary Advance

2064. SHRI ATAL BEHARI VAJPAYEE :

SHRI JAGANNATHRAO JOSHI :

Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether the authorities of I. I. T.,
Delhi issued a Notification stating that not
more than Rs. 50,000 should Remain outstand-
ing temporary advance ; and

(b) if so, in how many cases it has not
been adhered to in the last two years and the
reasons therefor in each case ?

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) According
to the information received from the Institute,
no notification or order was issued fixing
a ceiling of Rs. 50,000/- for outstanding tem-
porary advances.

(b) Does not arise.

Assistance to Bangla Desh for Develop-
ing Shipping Industry

2065. SHRI SARJOO PANDEY : Will
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS-
PORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Bangla Desh Government
have sought India’s help in developing the
shipping industry in that country ; and

(b) if so, the assistance provided to Bangla
Desh in this respect ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS AND # SHIPPING AND TRANS-
PORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : (a) and
(b). The Government of India have agreed
to supply two ships to Bangladesh, the sale
price of which will be met from the credit of
Rs. 60 million made available to that Govern-
ment. One ship has since been handed over
to that Government. The Shipping Corpora-
tion of India have also entered into an agree-

ment with the Bangladesh Shipping Corpora-
tion providing amongst others that it will
make available to Bangladesh Shipping
Corporation : —

(i) ships on single voyage/time charter
basis for export trade of Bangladesh
with countries covered by U. K.
North Continent Conference ;

(ii) space for Bangladesh cargo on other
liner areas like Australia, USA, Japan
East and West Africa, Gulf area etc.;

(iii) arrange charter of vessels to Bangla-
desh Shipping Corporation at most
favourable available rates.

(iv) employ 50 engineering and navigation
officers on its ships pending acquisi-
tion of ships by Bangladesh Shipping
Corporation ;

(v) services of engineers and masters to
man Bangladesh ships as and when
required.

Development of Inland Water Transport

2066. SHRI SARJOO PANDEY : Will
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS-
PORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether any survey has been earned
out to assess the possibility of developing
inland water transport in the country, if so,
the results thereof ;

(b) whether any plan has been drawn up
for improving and developing the existing
water transport facilities in the country , and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS, AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI OM
MEHTA) : (a) A committee under the Chaii-
manship of Shri B. Bhagavati studied the
problems relating to the existing inland water
transport system in the country and recom-
mended a phased programme for its develop-
ment.

(b) The Committee recommended 32
schemes costing Rs. 12.42 crores and 14 schemes
costing Rs. 14.89 crores for implementation
during the Fourth Plan and Fifth Plan periods
respectively. Out of these, 19 schemes costing
Rs. 5,97 crores have so far been sanctioned.

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Buckingham Canal ; construction of locks,
wharves in the Godavari Delta Canals ; com.
mercial services on the Ganga, Brahmaputra
and its tributaries ; improvement of Cumbar-
jua Canal and provision of ferries in Goa,
purchase of dredging equipment for water-
ways in Gujarat ; introduction of mechanised
service on the Jhelum ; widening and deepen-
ing of Champakara Canal and Chavara-
Neendakara waterways ; improvement of
West Coast Canal in Kerala ; lining of Elleru
and Machalipatnam Canal ; development of
inland navigation on the Tungabhadra Canal;
improvement of navigation in Mahanadi ;
improvement of Krishtapore Canal ; provision
of ferries on the Hooghly.

Non-Utilisation of Minor Ports due to
Lack of Development of Coastal Shipping

2067. SHRI SARJOO PANDEY : Will
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS-
PORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether the facilities of the minor
ports in the country laigely remain unutilised
due to lack of development of the Coastal
Shipping ; and

(b) if so, whether Government propose to
develop Coastal Shipping in a big way ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN-
TARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) :

(a) and (b). Due to draft restrictions and
inadequate berthing facilities, minor ports are
catering to very small coastal vessels and sail-
ing vessels only. In so far as the small vessels
arc concerned, there has been a dwindling of
cargo due to competition from the railways
and road transport. Government has, there-
fore, set up a Committee for the study in
depth of the inter-related problems of coastal
shipping and the traffic facilities at the minor
ports.

Shortage of Suphala Type Complex Fer-
tiliser lu Eastern States

2069. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR :
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) whether there is an acute shortage of
Suphala type complex fertiliser in the Eastern
States ;

(b) if so, causes thereof ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) to (c). No
report has been received in the Ministry of
acute shortage of Suphala type complex
fertiliser in the Eastern States. Information
has been requested from the States in the
Eastern Zone and will be placed on the Table
of the Sabha as soon as it is received.

Reconstruction of Main Body of I. G.

S. S. R.

2070. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR :
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether the main body of the Indian
Council of Social Science Research has been
reconstituted ;

(b) whether the Chairman, Member-
Secretary and Director of Documentation
continue to be ffora same region ; and

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) The
Indian Council of Social Science Research
was reconstituted w. e. f. 1st Aprli, 1972.
However, no change was made in the Chair-
man and the Member-Secretary whose terms
of office are yet to expire.

(b) Yes, Sir. But this is merely a coinci-
dence.

(c) There has been no delay in the
appointment of the second Member-Secretary
of the I. C S. S. R. Under Rule 14 of the
I. C. S. S. R., the first Member-Secretary of
the Council has been appointed by the Govern-
ment of India and is to bold office “till such
time as a Member-Secretary has been appoin-
ted by the Council with the approval of the
Central Government.*’ He works purely in an
honorary capacity and has expressed his desire
to be relieved as soon as possible. The Coun-
cil has advertised the post and appointed a
Selection Committee. Its ^ proposals are
awaited.

List of Non-Official Allotted Houses by
Directorate of Estates

2071. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR i
Will the Minister of WORKS AND HOUS-
ING be pleased to state t

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(a) whether a large number of non-
officials have been allotted houses and flats
by the Directorate of Estates ;

(b) whether a list of such allottees will be
placed on Table of the House ; and

(c) whether a list of all such licencees
whose rent arrears are over Rs. 1,000 on July
15, 1972 will be placed on the Table of the
House ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) to (c). The in-
formation is being collected and will be laid
on the Table of the House.

Closure of Tea Godown <*f Calcutta Port

207 2. SHRI JYOTIRMQY BOSU : Will
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS-
PORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether the tea godown of the
Calcutta Port has been closed ;

(b) whether as a result of this closure,
the port ls incurring losses, at the rate of
about Rs. 21 lakhs per year ;

(c) whether tea industry and tea exports
have been adversely effected , if so, the cir-
cumstances under which the godown had to
be closed , and

(d) the steps, if any, being taken in this
regard ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN-
TARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) :
ia) M/s. Balmer, Lawrie & Go. Ltd., who
used to function as public warehousemen for
the tea trade, vacated the three tea warehouses
of Calcutta Port Commissioners, one in
October, 1971 and two in January, 1972.

(b) The Port Commissioners have lost rent
on these warehouses at the rate of Rs 25.14
lakhs per annum for the period during which
they have been vacant.

(c) According to the Ministry of Foreign
Trade, the closing of those warehouses caused
considerable inconvenience to the tea industry
and the tea exporters but there has not been
any decline in the exports of tea during the
period that these warehouses were closed as

compared to the corresponding periods in the
earlier two years.

(d) Till long term alternative arrange-
ments are made, two of the three warehouses
have been taken over by the Central Inland
Water Transport Corporation Ltd., which is
a Government of India Undertaking, with
effect from 12th July, 1972. The third ware-
house has been retained by the Port Commis-
sioners for being let out for other purposes.

Pay Scales of Scientists Under Indian

Council of Agricultural Research

2073. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) the pay scales of scientists under
Indian Council of Agricultural Research,
category- wise ;

(b) the method and principle of recruit-
ment and promotion of scientists to higher
posts ;

(c) whether the Government are consider-
ing to revise the pay-scales and change the
rules and regulations relating to recruitment
and promotion ; and

(d) if so, the main features thereof ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) A statement
is laid on the Table of the House. [Placed in
Library . See No. LT-3389/72]

(b) In accordance with the provisions of
the Bye-laws of the Council, as approved by
the Government of India, recruitment to all
Class II and Class I Scientific posts ls made
on the basis of selection by open competition
through advertisement on an all-India
basis.

(c) and (d). No Sir. The general ques-
tion of revising the pay-scales of Agricultural
Scientists will be considered after the report
of the Third Pay Commission relating to
scientific employees of the Scientific Depart-
ments of the Govornment of India and the
Government decisions thereon have become
available. Similarly the general question of
changing the present rules and regulations
relating to recruitment and promotions to
scientific posts, will be considered after the
receipt of the report of the recently constitu-
ted I. C. A. R. Enquiry Committee.

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Age Limit for Sterilization

2078. SIIRI PAMPAN GOWDA :

SHRI G. K. JAFFER SHARIEF :

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have fixed any
age limit for sterilization ; and

(b) if so, the age so fixed ?

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118

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY
OF WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF.
D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) and (b).
Yea. In case of women the upper age limit
for sterilization haa been fixed at 45 years. In
case of men, those above 50 years are not
generally accepted for the operation.

Establishment of Cashew Research
Institution

2079. SHRI PAMPAN GOWDA: Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) whether there is any proposal under
the consideration of Government to establish a
Cashew Research Institution in the country ;
and

(b) if so, the main features thereof ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) No Sir,
there is no proposal at present under the
consideration of the Government of India to
establish a separate Cashew Research Institu-
tion in the country. Sometime ago a proposal
establish a Research Institute in Kerala for
search on Cashew nut shell liquid was
< eived in the Ministry of Foreign Trade,
but they have not found it feasible to agree
the proposal so far.

The I. C A. R. has already established
a Central Plantation Crops Research Ins-
titute with its hcadquartcis at Kasaragod
in Kerala State which deals with research
on cashew as well as other Plantation
Crops. This Institute is likely to be further
strengthened during this plan inter alia for
undertaking intensive research on cashew
cultivation and processing.

(b) Does notarise.

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Missing of Books from Saprn House
Library, New Delhi

2084. SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA
HALDER :

SHRI M. S. SIVASWAMY ;

Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleaded to state :

(a) whether his attention has been drawn
to the reported missing of more than 600
books from the Sapru House Library, New
Delhi ;

(b) if so, whether any enquiry has been
constituted ; and

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) Accord-
ing to the information furnished by the Indian
Council of World Affairs, 626 volumes of UN
Treaty Series were missing from the Library
of the Council,

(b) and (c). A repoit has been lodged
with the Police by the Council and the matter
is under investigation of the Crime Branch of
Delhi Police.

Supply of an exploratory fishing vessel

under Norwegian Aid Programme

2085. SHRI A. K. GOPALAN :

SHRI VAYALAR RAVI :

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state s

(a) whether Government have received
an exploratory fishing vessel free of cost under
the Norwegian Aid Programme ;

(b) whether the Government have offered
this vessel to Kerala Government ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN TIIE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) to (c).
The last exploratory fishing vessel supplied by
Norway under the ~ successive Agreements
relating to the Indo-Norwegian Project was
received in 1966. No vessel received under
these Agreements, of which the term of the
final agreement came to a close in March,
1972. has been offered to the Government of
Kerala. The vessels are, however, based at
Cochin. Indications have however been
received of continued assistance in various
spheres including fisheries. It is expected
that some exploratory fishing vessels will be
supplied free of cost by the Noiwegian Agency
for International Development. Under the
procedure prescribed by the Ministry of
Finance, external assistance in the form of
commodities and equipment having sale
value is required to be adjusted against plan
ceilings. An enquiry was accordingly made
from maritime State Governments, including
Kerala whether they would be able to
accommodate the cost of the vessels, if

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allotted to them, under their plan ceilings.
No conditions were prescribed, as the enquiry
was intended for the purpose of making an
assessment of the situation on the basis of
which a suitable arrangement for the utilisa-
tion of the vessels could be worked out. The
State Governments expressed inability to
accommodate the cost of the vessels against
their Plan ceilings. In accordance with the
proposals as now formulated, the operational
plan of the vessels will be drawn up by the
Central Deep Sea Fishing Organisation,
which will also co-ordinate the exploratory
programme of the vessels. The State Govern-
ments concerned will operate the vessels, and
the cost of operation is proposed to be met by
the Central Government. The proposals are,
however, tentative. It is not expected that the
vessels will be available before 1974. The
number of vessels to be supplied and their
disposition has also not been determined. The
final arrangements for the organisation of the
exploratory programme with the vessels will
be worked out in the light of developments.

Supply of Boiled Rice to Kerala

2U86. SHRI A. K. GOPALAN : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) whether Government are aware that
the consumers of Kerala show a very marked
prt ference foi boiled rice and there have been
frequent complaints about the continued
supply of i aw rice ,

(b) if so, what steps Government have
taken for the supply of boiled rice to Kerala ;
and

(t) if no steps have been taken, the
reasons thcicfor ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) and (c). Only limited stocks of boiled
rice are available in the Central pool. Out of
these a substantial quantity has already been
allotted to Kerala. Long-term measures to
encourage production of boiled rice are under
consideration.

Sugar Allotment to Kerala

2087. SHRI A. K. GOPALAN : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) the sugar allotment to Kerala State
per month ;

122

(b) whether Government are aware that
the present allotment quantity is not suflicient
to meet the requirement of Kerala ; and

(c) whether Government would consider
the sugar allotment on the basis of one Kilo-
gram per head per mensem ; and if so, when,
if not, the reasons therefor ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) The quota of fair price
levy sugar allotted to Kerala State under the
voluntary distribution scheme/Partial control
duTing January, 1972, to August, 1972, is

given below :

January

’72

7602

tonnes

February

*72

7600

tonnes

March

'72

7600

tonnes

April

'72

7612

tonnes

May

’72

7G12

tonnes

June

’72

7612

tonnes

July

’72

7612

tonnes

August

*72

7160

tonnes

(b) and (c).

Levy sugar is

being allotted

to all the State Governments on a rational
basis after taking into consideration the popu-
lation factor, the past pattern of consumption
during 1967-68 and 1968-69, and the availa-
bility of sugar. The scale and mode of distri-
bution within the State is, however, left to
the discretion of the State Government subject
to a guide-line that no individual be supplied
more than 1 kilogram per month and a family
should not get less than a kilogram per month
in any case. Due to the extremely limited
availability of sugar it has not been possible
at present to accede to the demands of the
State Governments, including Kerala, for
increasing their monthly quotas.

Research in Bacterial Fertilizer

2088. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP
SINGH : Will the Minister of AGRICUL-
TURE be pleased to state whether to avoid
eutrophication of ‘wet lands' subjected to high
dosage of chemicals fertilizer, the Govern-
ment has any plans to piornote research in
‘bacterial fertilizers’ ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANN AS AH EB P. SHINDE) : In recent years,
the subject of eutrophication, that is,

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124

“unwanted growth of algae” has drawn wide
attention, due to the consideration that nitro-
gen is present to the extent 79 per cent in
the atmosphere and it is a very mobile element
in air, water and soil The fact remains that
there arc 40 species of algae and as low as
0.3 parts per million nitrogen or even half of
this amount in ordinary rainfall is considered
enough to support algal growth. In view of
this, it does not seem to be likely that nitrogen
from fertilizers may be responsible for eutro-
phication, specially in developing countries
like India where according to 1969-70 statis-
tics, the per hectare consumption of fertilizer
is hardly l/47th of the developed countries
like Japan and 1/8 1st of the fertilizer dose
used in Netherland. There appears, therefore,
no danger at present to be apportioned to the
use of chemical fertilizers in out country.

The research investigations carried out,
so far at the Central Rice Research Institute,
Cuttack have not shown any deleterious effect
in the wet-land soil, due to the use of high
doses of chemical fertilizers. However, research
studies have already been undertaken to exploit
the possibilities of bacterial fertilizers like
Azotobacter mutants as also the mass culture
of algae for rice in wet-land soils and intensi-
fication of the research programme is now
contemplated. The use of Bacterial fertilizers
like Rhizobial cultures for inoculating seeds
of pulses and other legume crops is, however,
becoming a general practice now.

Profits expected from Indian Built Luxury
Liner ‘Harsha Vardhan*

2089. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP
SINGH; Will the Minister of SHIPPING
AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state the
estimated profits expected this year from the
India built luxury liner “Harsha Vardhan”
and the routes on which it will ply ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND TRANS-
PORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : The Ship-
yard has contracted to deliver the luxury
liner “Harsha Vardhana” to the Shipping
Corporation of India only in October 1973.
No profits therefore are expected this year.
This ship will ply between India and East
Africa.

Crash Programme for Appointment of

Primary Teachers in Rural Areas

2090. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP
SINGH : Will the Minister of EDUCATION
AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether a crash programme for
appointment of primary teachers in the rural
areas evolved by Government is being conti-
nued this year ; and

(b) if so, the main features of the scheme
and its achievements in 1971-72 ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) ;
(a) A Central Scheme for Providing Employ-
ment to the Educated Unemployed by Expan-
sion of Primary Education facilities in States/
Union Territories was sanctioned during 1971-
72 and is being continued during the current
year.

(b) The scheme provides for appointment
of additional primary school teachers, inspectors
of primary schools, introduction of work expe-
rience, distribution of free textbooks and
stationery, supply of midday meals and cons-
truction of additional class rooms. During
1971-72 approximately 28,000 teachers, 161
inspectors and 367 work experience teachers
were appointed. The target for 1972-73 are
30,000 teachers, 240 inspectors and 1,000
work experience teachers. The entire ex-
penditure is borne by Government of India.

Pollution of Sea Water by Washing of
Oil Tankers by Foreign Shipping concerns
near Bombay Docks

2091. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP
SINGH : Will the Minister of SHIPPING
AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether washing of oil tankers by
foreign shipping concerns in the vie inity ol
Bombay docks has resulted in dangeious
pollution of sea-water in that area ; and

(b) if so, the steps being taken by
Government to remedy this ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT-
ARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) :
(a) No, Sir. At present oil tankers use
facilities for cleaning at the Marine Oil
Terminal (Butcher Island). Oil tankeis are
not allowed to enter the docks unless they
have been completely cleaned and certified as
‘gas free* by the Inspector of Explosives. One
noticed case of oil pollution is suspected to be
due to (i) discharge of oil into the sea by oil
tankers after leaving Butcher Island and (ii)
outfall of residual oil from leaks in the
bunker lines in the docks.

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(b) More rigid enforcement of already
existing provisions and joint inspection by
Port Trusts, Naval authorities and other
concerned interests are being considered to
prevent recurrence of even such occasional
pollution.

Central Assistance for Agricultural and
Jute Loss in Orissa

2092. SHRI P. GANGADEB : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) whether there has been a great agri-
cultural and jute crop loss in Orissa and if
so, the reasons therefor ;

(b) whether the Centre have given any
relief and assistance to the Orissa Government
to meet such a loss ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
AN NAS AH EB P. SHINDE) ; (a) to (c).
The relevant information is being collected
and will be placed on the Table of the Sabha.

Performance of National Highways Or-
ganisation, Orissa

2093. SHRI P. GANGADEB: Will the
Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT
he pleased to state :

(a) whether the National Highways
Organisation in Orissa has not shown good
peiformancc for some time past ; and

(b) if so, the reasons therefor and the
measures being taken to strengthen Orissa
Highways Body ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI
OM MEHTA) i (a) Yes Sir, for the last 3
y^ars.

(b) Lack of proper organisation in the
State P. W. D. mainly and to a limited extent
shortage of steei and road building equip-
ments has contributed to the situation. The
State Government have been persuaded to
strengthen the National Highway Organisation
which now consists of 15 Divisions and
** Circles under the charge of one Chief
Engineer. They are also procuring more road
building machinery. Efforts are also being
made to procure more steel.

Assessment of Levy Sugar on the baste of
Levy Prices

2094. SHRI P. GANGADEB :

SHRI K. LAKKAPPA :

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state whether Government have
decided that assessment of levy sugar will be
made on the basis of the levy prices fixed by
the Government ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : Yes, Sir. The excise duty
on levy sugar is assessed on the basis of the
levy prices notified under the Sugar (Price
Determination) Order, 1972, for different
grades of sugar in different zones.

Progress in completion of Cochin Ship-
yard

2095. SHRI M. K. KRISHNAN : Will
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS-
PORT be pleased to state :

(a) the progress made so far in the com-
pletion of Cochin Shipyard ;

(b) whether the work is going on as per
schedule ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI OM
MEHTA) : (a) Approximately 170 acres of
land have been acquired and another 1.5
acres have been notified for acquisition for
extending a railway siding to the Shipyard
site. All the technical designs and drawings
required to be delivered by Consultants have
been received from M/s. Mitsubishi Heavy
Industries Ltd., Tokyo. Design works to be
done by the Shipyard Organisation have been
largely completed. Preparatory works such as
fencing of the shipyard site, reclamation of
the site, 1st phase construction of shipyard
roads, temporary water and electricity supply
systems for construction requirements and
1st phase of drainage works* have been com-
pleted. Work is in progress on construction
of Training School, Mould Loft foundation,
Hull Shop; Main Electric supply receiving
station, Laboratoiy, Oil Store, Paint Store
and 2nd phase road construction. Contracts
for construction of Outfitting ware house
(foundation and superstructure) Maintenance
Shop (foundation and superstructur e) and

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128

General Store foundation have also been
awarded. Award of major marine works viz.,
Building Dock, Repair Dock and Quays is
under consideration. Orders have been placed
for the procurement of cranes and machinery
including major electrical equipments, some
of which have already been taken delivery of.
Tenders for another 75 items of machinery/
equipment have been received and are under
scrutiny. With a view to completing the cons-
truction of the Shipyard according to sche-
dule, a fully Government of India owned
company named ‘Cochin Shipyard Limited’
has been set up with effect from 29.3.1972.

(b) and (c). The work is generally pro-
gressing as per schedule, except in a few cases
like the awaid of contracts for Building Dock,
No. 3 Quay, Hull Shop foundation and 150
T Gantry Crane where the tenders had to be
re-invited for lack of suitable response from
the tenderers.

Family Planning Publicity through In-
formation and Broadcasting

2096. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : Will
the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have evaluated
the Family Planning Publicity work executed
through the Information and Broadcasting
Ministry media ; and

(b) the steps his Ministry want to take to
improve motivational publicity among non-
Hindu communities 7

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) The informa-
tion is being collected and will be laid on
the Table of the House.

(b) Various forms of presentation and
appeals are being used to inform, educate and
motivate all sections of society. A special
campaign cell is also proposed to be set up
for developing special approaches suited parti-
cularly to the neetjs of those sections of society
which suffer from socio-economic backward-
ness, and hence show comparatively less
interest in family planning.

Functioning of Book Promotion Division

2097. SHRI S. G. SAMANTA: Will
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether the functions of Book Pro-
motion Division are still divided among the
two Departments of Education and Culture ;
and

(b) the reasons for not placing Book
Promotion Division under a senior Director
with knowledge of book world ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) :
(a) Yes, Sir.

(b) The Deputy Educational Adviser
who is incharge of this Division has sufficient
knowledge of the Book World.

Book on India-Land and People brought
out by N. B. T.

2098. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : Will
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) the number of books the National
Book Trust has so far brought out in the
series India-Land and People ; and

(b) the reasons for not publishing books
on new North-Eastern States and territories
like Tripura, Mizoram and Arunachal ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA-
SWAMY) : (a) 51 titles have so far been
published in this series.

(b) “India the Land and People” is a
continuing series and all areas of the country
are expected to be covered by about August,
1973. So far four books about Assam and
one about Nagaland have been included in
this scries.

Central Aid to Persons given Land after
Imposition of Ceiling

2099. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state the arrangements being made to pro-
vide financial and other help for rehabilita-
ting landless people on lands available after
imposition of ceiling and the ratio of Central
and States’ assistance in this regard ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : The new
assignees of land will be able to take advan-
tage of the financial assistance from special
schemes like SFDA and MFAL in areas where

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these schemes are in operation, as small and
marginal farmers, apart from the financial
assistance available from existing institutions
like cooperatives and commercial banks. The
special schemes like SFOA and MFAL are in
the Central sector and are wholly financed
by the Central Government.

Production of Hindi Books

2100. SHRI D. P. JADEJA : Will the
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether the attention of Government
has been invited to a news item appearing in
Hindustan Times dated the 21st July, 1972
regarding production of Hindi Books ;

(b) the reasons for the unsatisfactory
production of books ; and

(c) the total amount sanctioned for the
purpose State-wise and the percentage there-
of utilized for the production of books during
the last two years ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SO-
CIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. R/VMASWA-
MY) : (a) Yes Sir

(b) The Scheme of production of books
and literature in Hindi at the University
level launched in 1 908-69 is bring implemen-
ted mainly by the State Governments.

Accoiding to the Guidelines circulated
by the Central Government at the beginning
of the Scheme, the State Governments were
to set up autonomous/departmental Boards
for executing the scheme. This took consi-
derable time in some States. The progress
during the first two years of the Fourth Five
Year Plan was slow on this account. Besides,
it is in the very nature of book production
that upto the manuscript stage the progress
u essentially latent. Expert Subject Panels
have to be set up, titles have to be selected,
authors/ translators have to be identified and
in case of translations, copyrights have to be
obtained. Results show only when books are
published. The initial apparent slow progress
of the Scheme is attributable to this factor also.

(c) A statement showing the grants re-
leased to State Governments and the percen-
tage of expenditure reported to have been
1T1( l, rrcd by the various Book Production
Boards during the last two years is laid on
the Table of the House. [Placed in Library.
S" No. LT-3386/72 ].

Improvement of Bus Service in Delhi

2101. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA :

SHRI SHIV KUMAR SHASTRI :

Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT be pleased to state t

(a) whether he is aware of great hard-
ship being caused to the travelling public in
Delhi for want of efficient transport ;

(b) if so, the positive measures being
taken to improve the Delhi Transport Cor-
poration Service, especially in peak hours ;and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS, AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI
OM MEHTA) : (a) to (c). Sustained efforts
are being made to streamline the operations
of the bus services of the Delhi Transport
Corporation. These have started yielding
results by way of reduction in the working
deficits and missing of trips and better utili-
sation of vehicles. Steps are being taken to
repair some of the old and defective buses to
make them roadworthy. Orders have also
been placed for the procurement of 294 addi-
tional buses including 30 Mini buses. 133
have already been received and added to the
fleet. The remaining buses are also expected
to be received by October 1972. It has been
decided to acquire 425 additional buses during
1972-73 and 1973-74. Out of this, 250 are
expected to be received by the end of the
current financial year and the balance in the
next financial year. With the augmentation
of the fleet, the services are expected to fur-
ther improve.

To meet peak hour traffic, which mostly
consists of office goers, special trips have been
provided from various localities to the office
complexes in the mornings and in the reverse
directions in the evenings.

Firms Manufacturing Vanaspad and
Vegetable Products

2102. SHRI K. SURYANARAYANA:
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) the names of firms manufacturing
vanaspati and other vegetable products who
have been granted GOB Licences for fabri-

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eating tin containers for packing of their
products and who approached the Vanaspati
Directorate of his Ministry for assistance in
the allotment of tin plates ; and

(b) the action taken In the matter ?

THE MINISTER OF STATJ5 IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) i (a) The following manufac-
turers of vanaspati have been granted c.o b.
licences for fabricating tin containers for
packing vanaspati, or for expansion of their
existing capacity therefor :

(1) New units

(i) M/s, Dipak Vegetable Oil Indus-
tries Ltd., Manavadar.

(ii) M/s. Premier Vegetable Products
Ltd., Jaipur.

(iii) M/s. Kishan Chand & Co. Oil In-
dustries Ltd., Ludhiana.

(iv) M/s. Prabhat Solvent Extraction
Industries Ltd., Manavadar.

(v) M/s. Maharashtra Vegetable Pro-
ducts Ltd., Dhulia.

(2) Expansion of existing capacity :

(i) M/s. Bhavnagar Vegetable Products
Ltd , Bhavnagar.

(ii) M/s. Hindustan Development Cor-
poration Ltd., Calcutta.

(iii) M/s. Western India Vegetable Pro-
ducts Ltd., Amalner.

(b) In accordance with the distribution
procedures presently in force, the licensed
capacity of these firms has been intimated by
the Directorate of Sugar and Vanaspati to
the Tinplate Producers through the Iron and
Steel Controller, Calcutta, for enabling tin
plate to be released to them accordingly.

Inspection of Accounts of Sociological
Society Conference

2103. SHRI JAGANNATHRAO JOSHI :
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether the authorities of Indian
Institute of Technology, Delhi have withheld
the submission of accounts of the IXth Socio-
logical Society Conference (held in I. I, T.,
Delhi in 1969) from inspection by the AGCR
for the two consecutive years ; and

(b) if so, what action has been taken in
regard to this irregularity ?

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) and (b).
At the request of the Indian Sociological
Society, the Indian Institute of Technology,
Delhi, agreed to host the 9th Sociological
Conference which was held at New Delhi in
November, 1969. The Institute also decided
to contribute a sum of Rs. 19,000/- towards
the expenses of this Conference.

2. The total expenditure which the
Indian Institute of Technology incurred on
this conference was Rs. 29,448.36. Towards
this, it had only its own contribution of
Rs. 19,000/- and a grant-in-aid of Rs. 6,000
sanctioned by the Mahatma Gandhi Centenary
Committee which had been passed on to it
through the Indian Sociological Society. As a
balance of about Rs. 4,448.36 had yet to be
received from the Indian Sociological Society,
the accounts could not be finalised and sub-
mitted to the AGCR.

3. On 2nd March, 1972, a sum of
Rs. 3,000/- was received from the Indian
Sociological Society. Thereupon, the accounts
were finalised and also audited by the Int rnal
Audit. These have now been submitted to the
AGCR party which is working in the
Institute.

4. It will thus be seen that the delay in
submitting these accounts to the AGCR had
been solely due to the fact that the necessary
funds were not received from the Indian
Sociological Society.

5. It is understood from the Indian Socio-
logical Society that it has not yet been able
to get finalised and audited statement of
accounts from the then Head of the Depart-
ment of Humanities and Social Sciences who
was incharge of organising this conference on
its behalf. Certain other complaints have also
been received against him. The Board of
Governors have considered these complaints
and appointed a two-man Committee to
examine the matter and submit a report to
the Board at an early date.

Re-Routing of D« T. C. Buses through
I. T. O. Bridge of Jamuna River

2104. KUMAR I KAMLA KUMARI :
Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Delhi Transport Gorpo-

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ration Buses have been re-routed through
I. T. O. Bridge of Jamuna liver. New Delhi ;

(b) If so, the number of buses which arc
passing through that bridge daily ; and

THE MINISTER OF S TATE IN THE
DEPARTMENT OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFRIRS, AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT (SHRI OM
MEHTA) : (a) Services on route No. 1 1-F
operating between Patpar Ganj and Rafi
Marg and special trips during office hours on
routes No. 20 and 46 touching various trans-
Jamuna colonics have been re-routed via
I. T. O. Bridge with effect from 1-8-1972.

(b) 56 trips are being operated daily via
I. T. O. Bridge.

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Report of Committee on use of Urban
Waste and Night Soil as Organic Manure

2106. SHRI ARVIND NETAM : Will
the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have set up a
Committee headed by Shri B. Sivaraman,
Vice-Chairman of National Agriculture Com-
mission to determine the extent to which the
urban waste and night soil can be used as
organic manure ; and

(b) if so, the time by which the Com-
mittee will submit its report ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Yes.

(b) The Committee is required to submit
its report within a period of six months, i. e.
by the 5th November, 1972.

Cadre of Hospital Administrators

2107. S1IRI ARVIND NETAM: Will
the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government of India are
considering to raise the cadre of Hospital
Administrators ; and

(b) if so, how it will effect the smooth
functioning of the hospitals ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) No.

(b) Does not arise.

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Request for sanction of two Agricultural
Universities in Uttar Pradesh

2108. SHRI ARVIND NETAM : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) whether Uttar Pradesh Government
have urged the Centre to accord sanction for
setting up two more Agricultural Universities
m the State ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of the Centre
thereto ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) The proposal is under the considera-
tion of the Government of India.

Educational, Cultural an^ Social Institu-
tions associated with Names and Heri-
tage of Great Sons of India

2109. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will die
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) the names of the educational, cultural
or social institutions which are (i) run direct-
ly, (ii) managed through autonomous bodies,
(iii) partly financed , and (iv) given ad hoc
aids by the Education Ministry that arc asso-
ciated with the names and heritage of (i)
Mahatma Gandhi, (ii) Pandit Jawaharlal
Nehru, (iii) Maulana Abul Kalam Azad, (iv)
Sardar Vallabhbhai Patel, (v) Dr. Rajendra
Prasad, (vi) Dr. Zakir Hussain and (vii) Lai
Bahadur Shastu ;

(b) (i) separate annual expenditures and
(ii) the aggregate expenditure incurred so
far on these institutions lun in the names of
each of the great sons of India ;

(c) the names of similar institutions and
the expenditure incuired (i) annually and
(ii) in aggiegate so far which are run in
association with the name and heritage of
Nclaji Subhas Chandra Bose ; and

(d) the realms for discriminative attitude
of Government towards Netaji ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) ;

(a) to (d). The information is being collected
and will be laid on the Table of the House,
when received.

Books on and by Netaji Subhaeh
Chan dra Bose available in Library of
Institute of Advanced Studies, Simla,
Jawaharlal Nehru University and Central
Government Libraries

2110. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Library of the Institute
of Advanced Studies, Simla contains most of
the important books on and by Mahatma
Gandhi and Jawaharlal Nehru, but no book
on and by Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose, if
so, the reasons therefor ;

(b) whether Jawaharlal Nehru University
Library has books on and by Netaji Subhash
Chandra Bose ; and

(c) whether Government propose to issue
directives to all Central Government libraries
for including books on and by Netaji ?

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S NURUL HASAN) : (a) No, Sir.
The Library of the Indian Institute of Advan-
ced Study, Simla does contain some books, on
and by Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose.

(b) Yes. Sir.

(c) The National Library, Calcutta gets
one copy each of every book published in the
country. The Central Secretariat Library and
Delhi Public Library also have books on and
by Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose.

Shortfall in target of food production
during 1971-72 on Estimate* of food pro-
duction in 1972-73

2111. SHRI SAMAR GUHA: Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state:

(a) whether shortfall in food production
during 1971-72 will effect the target of
national self-sufficiency in food production ;

(b) if not, the target year for stopping
food import from outside; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The

achievement of self-sufficiency in foodgrains
production is an accepted policy and this

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objective is not influenced by production in
any individual year.

(b) No fresh contracts for the import of
foodgrains either on concessional or commer-
cial basis, have been entered into by the
Government since 1st January, 1972.

(c) During the current year kharif crops
have been affected in varying degrees, by the
drought in several States. A number of
corrective measures are being taken to com-
pensate the losses already suffered. These
includes providing irrigation from all available
sources, replanting of crops, wherever possible,
raising intermediate short-term crops and
mounting a massive programme for intensive
rabi /summer production. However, as we are
in the early part of the agricultural year
1972-73, it is not possible to give an estimate
of foodgrains production at this stage.

Scheme for providing Employment to
Educated Unemployed

2112. SHRI SAMAR GUIIA : Will the
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether Education Ministry has pre-
pared schemes of piovidmg employment to
the educated unemployed, if so, the details
about such .scheme's ;

(b) State- wise break up of such scheme-* ;

(d) the number of educated unemployed
under such Schemes and their State-wise
figures v

THIi DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S.
RAMASWAMY) : (a) to (d). The Ministiy
formulated a Scheme for Providing Employ-
ment to the Educated Unemployed and Ex-
pansion of Elementary Education duiing the
year 1971-72. Under this scheme, assistance
is given to the States/U.Ts for the appointment
of additional teachers and assistant inspectors
of schools, introduction of work experience,
supply of free text books and stationery, pro-
vision of midday meals and construction of
additional class-rooms. The assistance given
to the different States/U.Ts during 1971-72
under the scheme may be seen in Statement I
laid on the Table of the House, [Placed in
Library . See No. LT— 3387/72]. A State-
wise statement showing the number of teachers.

school inspectors and work experience teachers
sanctioned and appointed during 1971-72 is
given in Statement II laid on the Tabic of
the House. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-
3387/72]. For 1972-73, sanctions have been
issued to all State Governments and Union
Territories for the appointment of 30,000
further additional teachers, 240 school inspec-
tors, distribution of free textbooks and
stationery and midday meals to about 9 lakh
children, introduction of work experience in
1,000 schools and construction of 30,000
class-rooms.

Teaching of Hindi and other Languages

2113. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) the number of Hindi Schools run or
financed wholly or partially for teaching
Hindi to the non^iindi people ;

(b) the total expenditure meuned by
Central Government for the purpose of (i)
running, (ii) subsidising and (iii) giving various
other aids to such Hindi Schools during the
last three years ;

(c) the number of Schools run or financed
by the Central Government for teaching Bengali
to non-Bengali, Tamil to non-Tamil, Gujarati
to non-Gujarati, Telugu to non-Telugu, Mala-
yalam to non-Malayalam, Oriya to non-Oriya,
Assamese to non-Assamese, Marathi to non-
Marathi and Kannadi to non- Kannadi peoples;
and

(d) the expenditure incurred for teaching
of non-Hindi languages separately during the
last three years ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN T11E
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S.
Rj\MASWAMY) : (a) This Ministry do not
directly run any Hindi schools for teaching
Hindi to non-Hindi speaking people. However,
under this Ministry’s scheme for ‘financial
assistance to voluntary Organisations for
propagation and development of Hindi 1 finan-
cial assistance is given to such organisations
for running centres for teaching Hindi to non-
Hindi speaking people. The number of such
centres during 1971-72 was about 2,000.

(b) The total financial assistance given by
the Central Government for the arrangements
mentioned at (a) above during the last three
years is given below ;

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1969- 70 : Rs. 12,51,717.00

1970- 71 : Rs. 12,73,281.00

1971- 72 : Rs. 15,05,067.00

any schools directly for teaching of regional

languages. However, financial assistance during
the last three years was given to five voluntary
organisations which ran classes for teaching
these languages.

(d) Since these institutions generally
conduct classes for more than one language
from the same grant, separate figures for each
language are not available. The expenditure
incurred on the arrangements mentioned at
(c) above during the last three years was :

1969- 70 : Rs. 8,753.00

1970- 71 : Rs. 29,500.00

1971- 72 : Rs. 2,477.00

The languages for the teaching of which

grants were released were : Assamese, Oriya,
Tamil, Telugu, Urdu, Kannada, Malayalam
Marathi and Bengali.

Conference of State Health Secretaries

2114. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN:

SHRI M. C. DAGA :

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) whether a conference of State Health
Sccietaries, administrative Medical Officers
and Family Planning Officers held in New
Delhi in June, 1972 discussed the operation of
the Medical Termination of Pregnancy Act
and the problems encountered by the States
in its implementation ;

(b) the special facilities which Govern-
ment are providing to the States in this
respect ;

(c) whether all the States and Union
Territories have since set up Boards as required
under the Act for approving Institutions where
abortions could be performed and the Medical
Practitioners for this work whether any fixed
fee has been prescribed for the purpose ; and

(d) the step* taken in giving wide publi-
city to the Institutions and Medical Practi-
tioners so approved by the Boards for the
purpose ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY

OF WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF.
D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Yes.

(b) The Operation of Medical Termination
of Pregnancy Act is a health measure. Like other
health services, State Governments have to pro-
vide special facilities for the operation of Medi-
cal Termination of Pregnancy Act also from
their budget. However, some central assistance
for expansion of existing facilities etc. is under
consideration.

(c) No. So far 14 States and 4 Union
Territories have constituted such boards. No
fee has been prescribed for the purpose.

(d) It is not considered necessary to give
publicity.

Taking over of Public Schools in Delhi

2115. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN : Will
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether the question of taking over of
Public Schools in Delhi was under active
consideration of Government for some time ;
if so, the decision taken so far in this respect ;

(b) whether Government have leceived a
number of complaints against the Public
Schools in Delhi, if so, the nature of com-
plaints and the action taken thereon ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA-
SWAMY) : (a) No, Sir.

(b) Some allegations against a Public
School in New Delhi were received. These
relate to alleged unauthorised collections made
in 1965 for the National Defence Fund,
Jawans* Fund and irregular termination of
services of certain staff members by the
authorities of the School. Inspector General
of Police, Delhi, was asked to make inquiry
and submit report in the matter, which is
awaited.

Sale of Spurious Drugs

2116. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN : Will
the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) the number and names of Chemists

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and Druggists who have been prosecuted in
the country during the last 3 years on the
charge of selling spurious drugs ; and

(b) whether Government are considering
to enact some legislation in this respect or to
amend the existing law with a view to provide
pure medicines to the patients and to award
severe punishment to the persons concerned ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY
OF WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF.
D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) The
information is being collected and will be
laid on the Table of the Sabha.

(b) The Drugs and Cosmetics Act, 1940
already provides for deterrent punishment
for offences relating to the manufacture
and sale of mis-branded and adulterated
drugs.

Experiment in Dry Farming by I.C.A.R.

2117. SHRI JHARKHANDE RAI : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) whether any experiment has been
conducted by the Indian Council of Agricul-
tural Research to improve dry farming in
the country ; and

(b) if so, the results thereof ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) Yes, Sir.

An All Indi i Coordinated Research Pro-
ject on Dryland Agriculture has been sanc-
tioned since October, 1970. The project is
in operation at 24 selected centres, represent-
ing different agro-climatic conditions in the
country and its research programme aims to
develop technology to improve production
under dryland conditions. Research is also
being conducted at different Research Institu-
tes and other coordinated research projects of
the Council, specially under the All India
Coordinated Agronomic experiment scheme
to improve agricultural production under
dryland conditions.

(b) Within the short period of intensive
research efforts on dryland agriculture, a
number of promising results have since been
obtained and some of the more important
ones are mentioned below :

(i) Sunflower is proving to be a pro-
mising crop for most of the dry
areas in Andhra Pradesh, Mysore
Gujarat, Maharashtra and even
for some parts of Northern India.

(ii) Under dryland conditions. Hybrid
bajra HB-3, yields 32 per cent
more than HB-1 and is better than
local selections.

(iii) As upland drilled rice, Jaya, CR.
44-1, Krishna, Kaveri and Bala
varieties perform well.

(iv) Cowpea, C. 152 performs outstand-
ingly well under rainfed conditions.

(v) Research results on rabi ‘Jowar*
are convincingly in favour of Sep-
tember rather than the October
sowings in black cotton soils of
Bijaput and Bcllary tract.

(vi) Dryland soils are not only thirsty,
they are also hungry ; and appli-
cation of fertilizer enables the
crops to stand drought better and
invariably yield higher.

Monument ‘Birbal Ka Chhatta’ in Har-
yana

2118. SHRI JHARKHANDE RAI : Will
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government are aware of
the existence of a medieval monument called
Birbal Ka Chhatta in Narnaul in Haryana
state ;

(b) whether this monument is in a neg-
lected condition ; and

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) Yes,
Sir. Though popularly know as Birbal Ka
Chhatta, the structure was, constructed by
Rae Mukund Das, the governor of Narnaul
under Shah Jahan.

(b) and (c). The monument is under the
protection of the Government of Haryana and
as such the Central Government is requesting
that Government to take suitable steps for the
proper conservation of the monument.

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Effect of shortage of Chemical Fertiliser
on Green Revolution in Rice Growing
Areas

2119. SHRI JHARKHANDE RAI : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) the extent to which the current short-
age of chemical fertilisers will a fleet Govern-
ment’s plan to extend the 'Green Revolution*
to the rice producing areas in the country ;
and

(b) the steps Government have taken to
overcome the difficulties created by shortage
of fertilisers in the rice growing areas ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b).
It is not possible to state precisely as to what
extent the rice production with the High
Yielding Varieties of seeds vfoll suffer due to
likelihood of shortage of fertilisers. The fol-
lowing measures have been taken to ensure
that the high yielding varieties programmes
receive priority in the matter of fertiliser
supply :

(i) The States have been asked to
prepare plans for using fertiliser
on priority crops only and make
distribution arrangements accor-
dingly.

(ii) States have been advised to take
various measures such as better
tillage, better water management
and plant protection, better weed-
ing and more balanced fertilisa-
tion along the guidelines suggested
by the Indian Council of Agricul-
tural Research.

(iii) Orders have been promulgated
under the Essential Commodities
Act, making it legally obligatory
for the manufacturers to supply to
the States the quantities of fertili-
sers committed by them during the
Zonal Conferences. This will en-
sure that all the States get the
supplies on an equitable basis.

(iv) Government have taken over 30%
of the Ammonium Sulphate pro-
duced within the country to be
distributed through State agencies
like cooperatives, Agro- Industries
Corporations etc. for priority crops
and areas.

(v) The States have been advised to
prepare careful inventories of the
stocks available in the godowns of
cooperative and private dealers to
enable optimum utilisation of the
available fertilisers.

Delivery of Ships by Rumania

2120. SHRI P. M. MEHTA :

SHRI PURUSHOTTAM KAKOD-
KAR :

Will the Minister of SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether Rumania has refused to
deliver ten ships to India at the contracted
price ; and

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT-
ARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) :
(a) and (b). The Rumanian Shipbuilders had
expressed their inability to deliver ten ships
at the contracted price for the following
reasons stated by them :

(i) after the signing of the contract,
the prices of equipments and mate-
rials have gone up substantially
and there were big differences
between their first estimates and
actual prices to be paid now ;

(ii) labour costs were showing a conti-
nuous increasing tendency.

(iii) during the finalisation of the tech-
nical documentation some modifica-
tions were proposed to the original
specifications which have made the
vessels more expensive.

An amicable settlement has, however now
been reached.

Pilferage in Calcutta Port Area

2121. SHRI P. M. MEHTA : Will the
Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT
be pleased to state :

(a) whether pilferage in the Calcutta
Port area had been checked and several people
rounded up and some smuggling operations
detected ; and

(b) if so, broad outlines thereof ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT-
ARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) i

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(a) and (b). As a result of intensification
of preventive measures in the Port area with
the induction of Central Industrial Security
Force and Creation of Customs Dock In-
telligence Unit, the position of pilferage at
Calcutta Port has started improving and a
number of attempts at smuggling have been
thwarted. A number of people have been
arrested. The total number of persons arres-
ted during the period August, 1971 to June,
1972 in cases of pilferage was 348. In addi-
tion, 24 persons were arrested for smuggling
since the Central Industrial Security Force
took control of the Docks and Jetties in
August 1971.

Construction Work of Gopalpur Minor
Port

2123. SHRI ARJUN SETHI : Will the
Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT
be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government propose to start
the construction work of the Rs. 2.75 crores
minor port at Gopalpur immediately taking
into consideration the suggestion to change
the site of the minor port ; and

(b) if so, when the construction work of
the minor port is envisaged to end ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT-
ARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) :
(a) and (b). Development of the minor port
at Gopalpur was studied by an expert com-
mittee, which recommended its location in
the existing lagoon. The results of hydraulic
studies for this have not so far been received
from the Central Water and Power Research
Station. Other data as envisaged in the
Expert Committee’s Report are also awaited
from the Orissa Government. In the mean-
time, the State Government have suggested
an alternative site. Detailed information
with respect to the fresh proposals as well as
the result of any hydraulic studies and other
investigations carried out in respect of the
alternative site have been called for from the
State Government and are awaited. As the
scheme has not yet been finalised, it is pre-
mature to indicate the date of its completion.

Amount spent on Development Works
of Ghsndbali Port In Balasore, Orissa

2124. SHRI ARJUN SETHI : Will the
Minister or SHIPPING AND TRANSPORT
be pleased to state i

(a) whether the amount of Rs. 2,30,000
which was allotted under the Second Plan
for development works of Ghandbali Port in
the District of Balasore, Orissa had actually
been spent on it ; and

(b) if so, the names of the items on
which the sanctioned amount was being
spent ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT-
ARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) :
(a) and (b). The information is being collec-
ted from the Government of Orissa, who are
in executive charge of the minor port at
Chandbali. It will be laid on the Table of the
Sabha in due course.

Developing countries receiving foreign

assistance through U. N. Agencies

2125. SHRI ARJUN SETHI :

SHRI pfLOO MODY :

Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether at the Tenth Conference of
the National Commission for Cooperation
with UNESCO, he had stated that the foreign
assistance received by the developing countries
through the agencies of the United Nations
such as UNESCO frequently led to exploi-
tation of the country receiving such aid as
reporlcd in the Hindustan Times dated the
1st July, 1972 ; and

(b) the implications of his statement ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA-
SWAMY) : (a) What the Minister stated was
as follows :

“Multilateral aid through the Specialised
Agencies of the United Nations should be
normally without strings, but it is also fre-
quently contributory to exploitation of the
country receiving aid”.

(b) The implications have been made
clear in other parts of the Minister’s speech
where while noting that UNESCO’s achieve-
ments, though limited, are still memorable,
he had stated that "the transfer of expertise
and technology to the developing countries
effected through UNESCO is often, though not
always, of a kind that docs not benefit the
developing countries. The creation of institu-
tions and structural framework borrowed al«

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most entirely from foreign sources frequently
has little relevance to indigenous problems
and helps to create a subservient role for the
indigenous scientific and technological efforts."
The Minister's view was that UNESCO's
programmes should be reoriented in order to
help developing countries to utilize their
capacity for national development and mutual
co-operation to the fullest extent. Further,
the Minister stated that UNESCO should
focus its attention on programmes which have
a “multiplier" effect, which relate education
and science to productivity, which contribute
to the improvement of quality, and which
will assist the developing countries to develop
their own expertise as soon as possible.

Revision of Pay Scales of Sales Attendants
of All Day Milk Stall of D. M. S.

2126. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Will

the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state : *

(a) whether Government propose to revise
the pay scale of the post of Sales Attendants
at the All Day Milk Stalls of Delhi Milk
Scheme in the light of its responsibility for
handling cash ; and

(b) if not, the reasons therefor ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) and (b). The correct
designation of the post is Sales Assistant and
not Sales Attendant. There is no proposal to
revise the pay scale of Sales Assistant. The
Sales Assistants assist the Managers of the
Stall and attend to counter service. Their
duties do not include handling of cash. The
responsibilities attached to the post are not
such as to warrant any revision of pay scale.

Working Hours of All-Day Milk Stalls of
D. M. S. in various offices

2127. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) whether the working hours in all-day
milk stalls of Delhi Milk Scheme are still half-
an-hour more than for those Government
Offices in which buildings these stalls are
located ;

(b) if so, whether any Over-Time Allo-
wance is paid to them for performing their
duties for extra half-an-hour daily, if not, the
reasons^for the same; and

(c) whether Government are considering
to bring the working hours at par with those
of the Government Offices located in the same
buildings and, if not, why not ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) Yes.

(b) No. The 7^ hours work a day does
not entitle these employees to the payment of
overtime

(c) Although a Department of Central
Govt., Delhi Milk Scheme is primarily a
commercial organisation engaged in processing
and sale of milk and milk products. The All
Day Milk Stalls mainly cater to the needs of
the office-going employees working in the
Ministries in which the Stalls are located.
The stalls are opened 15 minutes earlier and
closed 15 minutes later than the working
hours of the Ministries for the convenience
of the office going employees. However the
question of further reduction of the working
hours of the employees of All Day Milk
Stalls is under consideration.

Cases of Gastro-Enteritls and Cholera

2128. SHRI AMAR NATH CHAWLA :
Will the Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) the number of cases of gastro-entcritis
and cholera leporled in this summer ;

(b) whether this time the incidents of
gastro-enteritis and cholera have been much
more than the year 1971 ;

(d) the steps taken in this regard in the
interest of public life ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAY A) : (a) 72,533 cases

of cholera and gastro-enteritis have been
reported from various States/Union Territories
upto the end of July, 1972.

(b) and (c). Increased incidence has been
reported from the States of Andhra Pradesh,
Gujarat, Haryana, Kerala, Madhya Pradesh,
Maharashtra, Mysore, Orissa, Tamil Nadu,
Uttar Pradesh and the Union Territory of
Delhi. This is mainly due to the scarcity of
safe drinking-water following the drought-
like conditions.

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(d) Necessary preventive measures inclu-
ding chlorination of drinking water sources,
isolation and treatment of cases, mass anti-
cholera immunization campaign, health edu-
cation of the people etc., are being carried
out.

Transfer of Sanitation Work of Govern-
ment Colonies to G. P. W. D.

2129. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD
VERMA : Will the Minister of HEALTH
AND FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to
state :

(a) whether the sanitation work of the
Government colonies of New Delhi is being
transferred to C. P. W. D. ; and

(b) if so, the reasons thereof ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CII ATTOP ADHY AY A) : (a) Government is
not aware of any such proposal.

(b) Does not arise.

Carrying of Night-soil and Garbage on
Heads

2 1 30. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD
VERMA : Will the Minister of EDUCATION
AND SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to
state :

(a) whether Government arc considering
to put an end to the profession oF scavengers
Carrying on head night soil and garbage ; and

(h) if so, the time by which it will be
implemented ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) :
(a) Yes, Sir.

(b) It is not possible to fix any time limit
m this regard.

Sugar Famine in 1973

2131. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD

VERMA :

SHRI BANAMALI PATNAIK :

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to refer to the statement made by
bhri S. K. Sommayya, former President of
the Indian Sugar Mills Association where he
has stated that India will be facing an
unprecedented sugar famine next year and

state what positive steps Government propose
to take in this direction ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH): Referring to a number of in-
accuracies in the earlier report published in the
"Financial Express” of the 19th July, 1972 of
his statement made two days earlier, Shri
Somayya has clarified in a letter to the Editor
of that paper that —

(1) as there is at present a marginal increase
in the cane acreage of about 7-J percent,
the next year’s crop is expected to be
slightly higher ;

(2) competent observers do not put sugar
production in the next year beyond 35
lakh tonnes ;

(3) acute sugar scarcity would arise in case
the Government did not increase the
sugarcane price to make it more remune-
rative to the grower ; and

(4) it was totally incorrect to say that he
felt that the Government action was
reckless and that he had only stated
that the Government policies were more
as a reaction to the current situation
rather than as a result of long term
strategy.

The sugar and sugarcane policy for 1972-
73 with a view to maximising sugar production
is already in an advanced stage of consi-
deration. Government are also making attempts
to accelerate the commissioning of new
factories scheduled to go into production and
the progress of old factories having expansion
programme during 1972-73.

Criticism by Cooperation Minister of
Maharashtra Re. New Sugar Policy

2132. SHRI RAMKANWAR :

DR. H. P. SHARMA :

Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE
be pleased to state :

(a) whether attention of the Govern-
ment of India has been invitedL to a statement
made by the Maharashtra Minister for Coope-
ration, Shri Y. J. Mohite (published in the
Indian Express of the 1st July, 1972) branding
as "unscientific and wrong” the new sugar
policy of the Government of India ;

(b) whether Mr. Mohite’s statement has

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151

been carefully examined by the Government
of India ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) and (c). The new sugar policy of
statutory partial control, which came into
effect from the 1st July, 1972, is basically a
continuation of the informally agreed arrange-
ment, which operated for six months from
the 1st January, 1972. As a sector of the
industry expressed its inability to continue
the informal arrangement beyond the 30th
June, 1972, it became necessary for the
Government to promulgate the Levy Sugar
Supply (Control) Older, 1972, Sugar (Price
Determination) Order, 1972 and other ancil-
lary orders under the provisions of the Essen-
tial Commodities Act. the sugar prices
had to be determined under the Act inter alia
on the basis of the minimum notified canc
prices, the notified ex-factory prices of sugar
in most of the zones worked out to be less
than Rs. 150 per quintal, which was the price
which prevailed uniformly under the informal
arrangement. The Government of India feel
that in the circumstances that emerged as a
result of a sector of the industry withdrawing
from the informal arrangement, the action
taken by them was inevitable and correct.

Implications of Fixing of Low Levy
Prices of Sugar

2133. SHRI RAMKANWAR : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) whether attention of the Government
of India has been invited to a report in the
“Economic Times” of 23rd June, 1972, stating
that distribution of sugar from fair price shops
is likely to go out of gear following the lower
levy prices fixed by the Union Government ;
and

(b) the reaction of the Government of
India in this regard ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY" OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) A few sugar factories have actually
filed writ petitions in Courts and obtained
interim orders restraining the Government
from enforcing the Sugar (Price Deter mina-

tion) Order, 1972 , subject to the factories
providing bank guarantees for the difference
between the prices fixed by the Government
and the actual sale prices. This development
has disturbed the smooth working of the levy
system of distribution of sugar both in regard
to its price and quantity in some areas. On
the whole, about 90.3% of the levy sugar
has been despatched by the factories during
July, 1972 and the period of validity of levy
releases for July, 1972 in the case of factories
covered by the interim orders of the Allahabad
High Court has been extended by three
weeks.

Steps for Consolidation of Agricultural
Holdings

2134. SHRI B. V. NAIK : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) steps Government at the Centres and
the States are adopting for the consolidation
fragments of agricultural land ;

(b) the size of a fragment, below which
further sub-division in the various States is
forbidden by law or usage ; and

(c) whether it is contemplated to change
the laws of inheritencc of agricultural land by
Constitutional Amendments or otherwise to
avoid further sub-division and fragmentation
of agiicultural holdings ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The
Fourth Five Year Plan has given considerable
emphasis on the programme of Consolidation
of Holdings. During the Fourth Plan a pro-
vision of Rs. 28.76 crores has been made by
the Stales to consolidate an area of 9.4 lakh
hectares. Work of consolidation of holdings
has been completed in Punjab and Haryana
and much progress has been made in Uttar
Pradesh, Maharashtra and Madhya Pradesh.
Progress achieved so far in different States
is given in the Statement enclosed.

(b) Legislative provisions have been
made for prevention of sub-divisions and
fragmentations of holdings below the prescri-
bed minimum areas in the following
States :

Andhra Pradesh (Telengana Area)

Assam

Bihar

Gujarat

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Haryana Rajasthan

Madhya Pradesh

Uttar Pradesh

Maharashtra

West Bengal, Manipur, and Tripura.

Mysore

Punjab

titution is under consideration now.

Statement

(Thousand Hectares)

State

Area consolidated

Information relates to the period ending

Andhra Pradesh

1971

Bihar

1971

Gujarat

1028

Sept., 1971

Haryana

4129

March, 1972

Jammu and Kashmir

March, 1972

Madhya Pradesh

3179

March, 1972

Maharashtra

7584

March, 1972

Mysore

803

• March, 1972

Punjab

4737

March, 1972

Rajasthan

1744

1971

Uttar Pradesh

10663

March, 1972

Delhi

1972

Himachal Pradesh

360

1972

Cost Benefit Ratio of Family Planning

measures of cost effectiveness have been dis-

2135. SHRI B. V. NAIK : Will the
Minister of HEALTH AND FAMILY PLAN-
NING be pleased to state :

cussed in fairly great detail in an article on
“The population Growth and Economic
Welfare" by Warren G. Robinson in the
Reports on Population/Fainily Planning No.

(a) the cost benefit ratio of family plan- 6* February, 71.

ning measures like I U.C.D. contractivcs and
Vasectomy ; and

Minimum Land Holding fit for Power
Tiller

(b) how this cost benefit ratio is
computed ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY
OF WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF.
D. P. CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Some
attempts have been made by various research
workers to estimate the cost benefit ratio for
individual methods of family planning. These
arc shown in the statement laid on the Table
the House [Placed in Library . See No. LT 3388/
72].

(b) For working out the cost benefit
ratio the economic value of a birth averted
due to the family planning method is related
to the estimated cost per birth averted during
^ particular year. The methodologies for
working out the cost benefit ratio and various

2136. SHRI B. V. NAIK: Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) the minimum size* of an agricultuiists
land holding computed on the basis of stand-
ard acres that is considered adequate to
sustain economically its cultivation by a power
tiller ;

(b) the minimum size of a fragment of
land on which power tiller can be operated ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) No scien-
tific study has been carried out to determine
the minimum *ize of holding adequate to
economically sustain its cultivation by a power
tiller.

(b) The size of the fragment of land on

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which a power tiller can be operated depends
on the size of the power tiller. A 4-5 H. P.
power tiller could easily be operated in fields
measuring about 8x6 meters for regular
agriculture.

Investment of Small Farmers Develop-
ment Agencies

2137. SHRI B. V. NAIK : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) the total investment by the Centre on
the small Farmers Development Agencies in
the country and the State-wise break-up
thereof ;

(b) whether these Agencies are managed
by the Small Farmers themselves and if so,
their precise constitution, functions and the
modus operandi ; and

(c) whether the precise dffinition of the
term farmer has been evolved in each State,
and if so, the main features thereof and the
detailed position about disposal of applications
for aid and assistance from Small Farmers in
each State ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) A statement (State-

ment I) giving the amount released upto
9th August, 1972 to the Small Farmers Deve-
lopment Agencies, Statewise, is laid on the
Table of the House. [Placed in Library . See No.
LT-3389/72]. Broadly, each Small Farmers
Development Agencies will get a grant ofRs,
150 Lakhs over the project period.

(b) No Sir. The Agencies are registered
under Societies Registration Act and have
generally the District Collector/ Deputy Com-
missioner as Chairman, Representation has
been provided for Small Farmers on the
Agencies. The draft constitution etc. of the
Agency (Statement II) is laid on the Table
of the House. [Placed in Library . See No. LT-
3389/72].

(c) Small Farmers are to be identified
from among those cultivators having holdings
between one and three hectares, generally.
Details of disposal of applications for aid
from Small Farmers in all the Agencies are
not available.

Ezccm expenditure incurred by States for
Crash Programme for Rural Employment

2138. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : Will

the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased

to state :

(a) the names of States which have
exceeded the expenditure allotted by the
Central Government on crash programme for
rural employment scheme and the names of
States which spent less than the allotted
amount in 1971-72 ; and

(b) the reaction of Government thereon ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) The States of Andhra
Pradesh, Kerala and Tamil Nadu have
exceeded the expenditure allocated by the
Central Government under Crash Scheme for
Rural Employment. The rest of the States
have spent less than the amount allocated to
them.

(b) Some States could not spend fully
the money allotted to them for a number of
reasons. Since 1971-72 was the first year of
operation of Crash Scheme for Rural Em-
ployment various administrative and pro-
cedural problems had to be solved. Then, for
certain States there were special problems
created by the Indo-Pak conflict, influx of
refugees etc. All State Governments have
been requested to step up the tempo during
1972-73 so as to achieve the maximum
targets.

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Training In New Strategy • of Agriculture
Under Farmers Training and Education
Programme

2143. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) whether covering 10 Districts in the
country nearly 14 lakh farmers including
men and women farmers, have been trained
in the new strategy of agriculture under the
Farmers Training and Education Programme ;
and

(b) if so, the names of the district with
the States ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) ; (a) Yes, Under
the Centrally Sponsord Scheme of the Farmers
Training and Education, 100 districts have
been established in the country to provide
essential support to agricultural production
effort. Total number of farmers (men and
women) trained up to 30th June, 1972 is
nearly 14 lakh as per details given in State-
ment I laid on the Table of the House.
[Placed in Library . See No. LT-3390/72].

(b) The Statewise names of 100 Districts
covered under * the programme are given in
Statement II laid on the Table of the House.
[Placed in Library, See No. LT-3390/72].

Earnings of Shipping Corporation of India
and Indian Shipping In Private Sector

2144. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : Will
the Minister of SHIPPING AND TRANS-

PORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Shipping Corporation of
India has earned a profit of Rs. 7.25 crore
during the fiscal year 1971-72 ;

(b) if so, the total tonnage of Indian
Shipping including both public and private
sector; and

(c) whether the earnings of private sector
of Indian Shipping are proportionately higher
and if so, the reasons for the same ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT-
ARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) :
(a) Yes, Sir. Though the balance sheet for
the year 1971-72 has not yet been published,
the Shipping Corporation of India is estimated
to make a profit of about Rs. 7.25 crores
during the year 1971-72 ;

(b) The total operative tonnage of all
Indian shipping companies as on 31.3.72 was
as follows :

Private Sector 12,95,314 GRT

Public Sector . . 12,25,106 GRT

Total : 25,20,420 GRT

(c) No, Sir. The returns of the Shipping
Corporation of India on the total capital
employed calculated for the last 10 years
comes to an average of 8.17 per cent which is
higher than the returns of other private sectoi
shipping companies of comparable size engaged
in similar operations.

Finalisation of Fisheries Project in Mysore

2145. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to refer to the reply given to Unstarred ques-
tion No. 1735 on the 3rd April, 1972 regard-
ing development of deep sea fishing industry
in Mysore and state further progress of
fisheries project to develop Malpe and
Hounavar Ports as fishing harbours and to
provide facilities in and around Karwar for
fishing and preservation of fish ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : The project
proposed by the Government of Mysore for
development of fisheries at Malpe, Honnavar
and Karwar with assistance from the World
Bank is under examination with reference to
the terms and conditions of World Bank

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162

assistance for such projects. In the meantime,
detailed project Reports including plans and
estimates for fishing harbours at Malpe and
Honnavar have prepared by the UNDP
Project for Pre-Investment Survey of fishing
harbours. The estimated cost of the fishing
harbours proposed for Malpe and Honnavar
is Rs. ?75.00 lakhs and Rs. 41.45 lakhs
respectively. The question of sanctioning
these harbours is under examination in
consultation with the Ministry of Finance. So
far as Karwar fishing harbour is concerned,
a total amount of Rs 25.99 lakhs has been
sanctioned so far by the Government of India
between 1967 and 1972. The facilities
provided at Karwar include a wharf, slipway
and auction hall. Under the provision of the
Indo-Norwegian Agreement, a fishermen’s
training centre, a boat building yard with a
servicing station and workshop, an ice plant,
and cold storage and freezing plant have
been provided.

Long-Term Development Programme for

Fishing Potential on Coastal Areas

2146. SHRI RAJ DEO SINGII : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) whether a long-term development
programme to exploic the fishing potential
along the thousands of miles of coast line
covering many States has been drawn ; and

(b) if so, the main features of it ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) and (b).
The Deep Sea Surwy Organisation (establis-
hed in 1946) in coordination with the Central
Marine Fisheries Research Institute (started
m 1947), and the Indo-Norwegian Project
(1953-71) have been conducting exploratory
and experimental fishing, and biological and
oceanographic studies, on a continuing basis,
with a view to assessing the fishery resources
of our seas. Charting of resources up to a
depth of 25 fathoms (150 feet) ha3 been
ea»ried out extensively, and in some areas
exploiatory work has been conducted upto
about 40 fathoms. In the southern stretch of
tlu* coast, from Mangalore on the West to
Mandaparn on the East, surveys have been
conducted at much greater depths, and
valuable resources of deep sea shrimp and
lobster htfve been located between 100 and
^5 fathoms. The emphasis until recently has
been on demersal stocks, i. e„ stocks occurring

close to the sea bottom. Increasing attention
is now being given to pelagic stocks, i. e.,
surface and mid- water stocks. A five-year
programme of investigation of pelagic fishery
resources along the South West Coast was
taken up with UNDP assistance in 1971.
A proposal for a similar UNDP assisted survey
on the East Coast has been submitted to
UNDP for consideration. During the 5th
Plan, which is now being formulated, it is
proposed to expand the activities of the Deep
sea Survey Organisation and the Central
Marine Fisheries Research Institute by provi-
ding larger vessels with a wider range of
operation. The Indo-Norwegian Project is
proposed to be continued as an Intergratcd
Project for Fisheries Development. Proposals
are also being cansidercd for the conduct of
special surveys and experimental fishing for
tuna, which is a valuable variety of fish with
export potential.

•

Study Team on Development of dry land
Agriculture

2147. PROF. NARAIN CHAND
PARASHAR : Will the Minister of AGRI-
CULTURE be pleased to state :

(a) the names of the members of the
Study team on the Development of Dry Land
Agriculture (and Dry Farming Technology)
set up by the Government of India :

(b) the date on which the Study Team
was set up ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The names
of the members of the Study Team are given
below :

1. Dr. A. S, Chcema, Agriculture Commi-
ssioner.

* ' Chairman

2. Dr. J. S. Kanwar, Deputy Director
General, ICAR.

* 'Alternate Chairman

3. Dr, A. M. Michael, (Water Techno-
logy Centre) I. A. R. I., New Delhi.

• ■ Member

4. Dr. D. P. Motiramani,

Jawaharlal Nehru Vidyalaya, Jabbalpur.

• • Member

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5. Dr. N. D. Rege, Joint Commissioner
(SC).

• * Member

6. Dr. G. A. Patel,

Director of Agriculture, Gujarat.

■ 'Member

7. Dr. Ranbir Singh. Director of Agricul-
ture, Rajasthan.

Membtr

8. Shri P. S. Majumdar,

Chief (Agri.), Planning Commission.

'Member

9. Dr. K. N. Synghal,

Director (Dry Farming)

■ ■ Member Secretary.

(b) The Study Team was set up on 3rd
January, 1972.

Extension of Panchayati Raj to all States
and Union Territories

2148. PROF. NARAIN CHAND
PAR ASH AR : Will the Minister of AGRI-
CULTURE be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Panchayati Raj does not
extend to all the States and Union territories
of the country ;

(b) if so, whether it is contemplated to
extend it to all the States and Union territories
and to persuade the Slates in which it is not
implemented ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) to (c). The Panchayati
Raj extends to all the States and Union
Territories in the country except Jammu and
Kashmir, Kerala, Nagaland, Meghalaya,
Manipur, Tripura, Delhi, Goa, Daman and
Diu, Pondicherry, Andaman and Nicobar
Islands, Dadra and Nagar Haveli, Laccadive,
Minicoy and Amindive Islands and Mizoram.

Panchayati Raj is a State subject and the
Central Government has been constantly
urging upon the State Governments and
Union Territory Administrations the need for
rarly implementation of the Panchayati Raj
Programme. The approach to policy on

Community Development and Panchayati Raj
was last considered by the Conference of
States* Ministers in-charge of Community
Development and Panchayati Raj held at
Madras in June, 1968. The Conference
commended that “Panchayati Raj as the
instrument of democratic decentralisation
should continue, the question of three-tier or
two-tier structure being left to the option of
the States.’* No time limit has, however,
been envisaged for this.

Study of Rural Unemployment by some
Institutions

2149. PROF. NARAIN CHAND
PARASHAR : Will the Minister of AGRI-
CULTURE be pleased to state :

(a) whether 12 studies have been carried
out in different parts of the country through
the Agro-Economic Research Centres and
other research bodies to ascertain the nature
and extent of xural unemployment and the
impact of Crash Scheme for Rural Employ-
ment ;

(b) whether the institutions have comple-
ted their surveys and reports have been submit-
ted to the Government ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) to (c). Yes Sir. These
studies are in progress. The major portion of
surveys is over. The Government expect to
receive the reports shortly.

Recommendation of Central Land
Reforms Committee, 1970

2150. PROF. NARAIN CHAND
PARASHAR : Will the Minister of AGRI-
CULTURE be pleased to state :

(a) the names of the Members of the
Central Land Reforms Committee, to which
the Conference of Chief Ministers referred to
problems connected with ceiling on land
holdings ; and

(b) the exact recommendations of this
Committee, as made in its repot t in August,
1970 ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The Central

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Land Reforms Committee is composed of the
following :

1. Minister of Agriculture — Chairman

2. Minister of Law and Justice — Member

3. Minister of Planning — Member

4. Minister of State in the

Ministry of Agriculture — Member

5. Minister of State in the

Ministiy of Home Affairs — Member

6. Member (Agriculture) Planning

Commission — Member

The Chief Ministers of Bihar, Himachal
Pradesh, Maharashtra, Punjab and Tamil
Nadu were co-opted as members of the
Central Land Reforms Committee to consider
problems connected with the ceiling on land
holdings.

(b) The Central Land Rcfoims Commi-
ttee was set up in September 1970. It submi-
tted its rtxommcndations in August 1971 and
not in August 1970. The Recommendations
of the Committee were as follows :

( i ) Ceiling should be applicable for
the family as a whole, the term
‘family* being defined so as to
include husband, wife and minor
children ,

(ii) When* the number of members in
the family exceeds five, additional
land may be allowed for each
memb< r in excess of five in such
a manner that the total area
admissible to the family docs not
exceed twice the ceiling limit for
a family ;

(ni) The ceiling for a family of five
members may be fixed within the
range of 10 to 18 acres of pere-
nnially irrigated land or land
under assured irrigation from
Government source capable of
glowing two crops. As soil condi-
tions, productivity of land, nature
of crop grown etc. vary from
State to State and even within
the same State from region to
region, the Committee considered
it desirable simply to indicate a
range within which the ceiling
should be fixed instead of sugges-
ting any rigid ceiling for the
whole country ;

(iv) For various other categories of
land conversion ratios should be
fixed taking into account availa-
bility of water, productivity, soil
classification, crops grown etc.
The absolute ceiling for a family
of five, even in the case of dry
lands should be put at 54 acres.
This limit would be relaxable if
there is special justification for
doing so on account of the nature
of soil, rainfall, chronic drought
conditions etc.

(v) Exemptions in the existing State
Laws in favour of mechanised
farms, well-managed farms etc.
should be withdrawn ;

(vi) The exemption in favour of plan-
tations of tea, coffee, cardamom,
rubber ^tc., should be carefully
examined in consultation with the
Ministries concerned and State
Governments. Thereafter this
and other types of exemptions
should be discussed with the Chief
Ministers in order to formulate
the national policy.

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Faith Homes ran by Christian
Missionaries

2152. DR. LAXMINARAIN PANDEYA :
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) the number of ‘faith homes’ in India
run by Christian Missionaries ;

(b) the activities of the faith homes ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA-
SWAMY) : (a) to (c). The information is
being collected and will be laid on the Table
of the House in due course.

Elimination of Communal and Caste
Influence in Education

2153. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA :

SHRI C. JANARDHANAN :

Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether communalism and casteism

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still exercise considerable influence in the
sphere of education :

(b) whether any efforts have been made
by the Centre to eliminate such communal
and caste influences on education ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) :

(a) Government have received reports that
Communalism and Casteism manifest them-
selves on certain occasion in varying degiees
in national life and this has its repercussion
in certain spheres of educations

(b) To counteract and ultimately elimi-
nate such influences, Government have been
taking several steps to promote positive attitu-
des of integration, rationalism and secularism
in the academic community. These include
inter-Statc and other types of student camps
where young people of various communities,
castes and regions live together and learn to
appreciate each other’s culture and tradition,
establishment of national integration samitis
in universities and colleges to promote attitu-
des of integration, bringing out text materials
which instil concepts of integration and
secularism, necessary orientation of teachers,
bringing together writers of different regions
so that they develop mutual understanding
and appreciation which will in turn be reflec-
ted in their books, etc.

(c) It needs persistent, continuous and
long-term effort to bieak down long- entrenched
attitudes and mores. Nevertheless, the steps
taken so far have brought about better under-
standing within the academic community, and
Government have every hope that with conti-
nued effort, the objective will be ultimately
achieved.

Codification of Privileges of Parliament

2154. SHRI BHOGENDRA JHA : Will
the Minister of PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS be pleased to state :

(a) whether there is any proposal to
codify the privileges of Parliament ; and

(b) if so, the broad outlines thereof ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN-
TARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) :
(a) No, Sir.

(b) Question does not arise.

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Separate Pool of Residences for Staff of
Hospitals in the Capital

2155. SHRI R. S. PANDEY :

SHRI C. JANARDHANAN :

Will the Minister of HEALTH AND
FAMILY PLANNING be pleased to state
whether Government is considering to create
a separate pool of residences for allotment
to the staff working in Government Hospitals
in the Capital keeping in view the nature of
their duties, in the public interest ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CH ATTOPADI I Y AYA) : Yes. So far as the
(i) Safdaijang (ii) Willingdon and (iii) Lady
Hardinge and Kalavati Saran Children
Hospitals with which the Central Government
is concerned there is a proposal to have a
pool of residences for the staff separately for
each of these hospitals.

Disposal of D. D. A. Residential Plots by
Public Auction

2156. SHRI R S PANDEY : Will the
Minister of WORKS AND HOUSING be
pleased to state :

(a) whether most of the plots of land
developed by the Delhi Development Authori-
ty for residential pui poses are disposed of by
public auction and sold at very high prices ;

(b) whether such plots of land are pur-
chased by the richer class of society as per-
sons belonging to middle income or lower
income groups cannot afford to purchase
them in auction ; if so, reasons for not allot-
ing these plots to people on fixed rates by
draw of lots ; and

(c) whether Government propose to
advise the Delhi Development Authority to
offer these plots of land to the public on rea-
sonable fixed rates or fix some quota of the
plots which would be put to auction in future
to enable the salaried class to purchase these
plots of land for residential purposes ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) No, Sir. So
far, the Delhi Development Authority have
allotted 13,060 residential plots. Out of these,

6,460 have been allotted at fixed price, and
not by auction.

(b) and (c). The policy of disposing of a cer-
tain quantum of developed land by auction is
intended to raise funds which are ploughed
back for investment in infrastructural facili-
ties and services, for subsidising housing for
the lower income groups and for provision
and maintenance of greens and public
open spaces. Some developed plots are
earmarked for allotment at pre-determined
rates by draw of lots to persons in the low
and middle income groups. All persons can
participate in open auction of developed
plots provided they do not have a plot or
house already in Delhi either in their own
name or in the name of their husband/wife
or dependent children.

Area of Land under Sugar-cane Cultiva-
tion

2157. SHRI R. S. PANDEY : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) the total area of land at present
under cultivation of sugar-cane in the coun-
try and the additional land which is proposed
to be brought under its cultivation in different
States ; and

(b) the steps being taken to implement
this decision and its expected yield during the
current year ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SH1NDE) : (a) and (b).
Estimates of area and production of sugar-
cane during the current year (1972-73) arc
not yet available. While there are no specific
plans for bringing additional area under its
cultivation, there are indications that the area
under the crop m the country would show an
increase over 1971-72

Admission to Pre-medical Courses of
Delhi University

2158. SHRI R. S. PANDEY ; Will the
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether a large number of students
securing first class marks have been denied
admission to the pre-Medical course of Delhi
University this year owing to its meagre in-
take capacity of seats for this course ;

(b) whether rush of this course has been
increasing for the last few years ; and

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(c) if so, reasons for not increasing the
intake capacity of the institutions and what
steps aie now being taken to accommodate
students in the pr^Medical course of the
Delhi University ?

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) Accord-
ing to the information furnished by Delhi
University 486 candidates who had obtained
67% and below marks but above 60% marks
could not be admitted to the Pre-Medical
Course.

(b) Yes, Sir.

(c) On account of limited physical faci-
lities in the colleges it is not possible for the
University to inciease the intake capacity.
The students who have not been able to
obtain admission in the Pre-Medical course,
are now eligible for admission to second year
B. Sc. (Hons.) class in Botany and Zoology.

Admission to College of Professional
Studies, Delhi

2159. SHRI R. S. PANDEY : Will the
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether there has been a rush of
students for admission to the College of Pro-
fessional Studies recently started by the
Delhi University and many students have
not been able to get admission because of its
limited intake capacity ;

(b) the subjects offered by this institu-
tion ; and

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S. NURUL HASAN) : (a) 1500
students applied for admission to the various
courses m the College of Vocational Studies.
The first list of 412 candidates was announ-
ced by the University on July 10, 1972. Out
of this list only 181 students turned up for
admission. The second list of 209 candidates
was announced the next day, out of whom
123 came for admission. Subsequently three
more lists were announced and it was on
July 28, 1972 only that the admission could
be completed. The total number of students'
admitted to the College is 407.

(b) During the academic year 1972-73

the following six subjects will be introduced
as an integral part of the B. A. (Pass) course :

(i) Tourism ;

(ii) Book- Publishing;

(iii) Insurance ;

(lv) Retailing and Trade ;

(v) Store-Keeping and Stores Account-
ing ; and

(vi) Office Management and Secretary-
ship.

Post-Matric Scholarship to S. C. and S. T.

Students

2160. SHRI K. S. CHAVDA : Will the
Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state the amount of
post-matric scholarships offered by the Centre
as well as State Governments, State -wise, to
the students belonging to the Scheduled Castes
and Scheduled Tribes during 1969-70, 1970-71
and 1971-72 ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SO-
CIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA-
SWAMY) : A statement is laid on tbc Table
of the Sabha. [Placed in Library. See No. LT-
3391/72 ].

Closure of British India Steam Naviga-
tion Company

2161. SHRI PURUSHOTTAM KAKO-
DKAR : Will the Minister of SHIPPING
AND TRANSPORT be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Century old monopoly
of the British India Steam Navigation Com-
pany on the Indo-West Asian passenger run
is to end soon ; and

(b) if so, what alternative arrangements
for the same have been made ?

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN-
TARY AFFAIRS, AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : (a)
and (b). The Mogul Line Ltd., a public sector
spipping company, have started a passenger-
cum-cargo service between Bombay and West
Asia Gulf ports from 26th June, 1972, with
their new vessel M. V. Akbar. With this,
the monopoly of the British India Steam
Navigation Company on this route will end.

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Linking of Cooperative Credit with Co*
operative Marketing Societies

2162. SHRI P. A. SAMINATHAN : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state:

(a) how many State Marketing Federation
have completed the study of the operation of
the scheme of linking of cooperative credit
with cooperative marketing in any particular
district of the State ;

(b) the action taken by the National
Cooperative Development Cooperation on the
report of the Kerala State Cooperative Mar-
keting Federation ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNAS AHEB P. SHINDE) x (a) Only Kerala
State Cooperative Marketing Federation has
completed a sample study of the operation of
the scheme of linking of cooperative credit
with marketing in two Talukas of Calicut and
I’alghat Districts.

(b) The comments of the Government of
Kerala have been invited on receipt of which
further action will he taken by the N C D.G.

(c) A Ramplc study of the working of
Cooperative Marketing Societies, with parti-
cular reference of the progress in the imple-
mentation of the scheme of linking of coopera-
tive credit with cooperative marketing in
Ajmer District of Rajasthan, conducted by
the Jodhpur University, revealed certain short-
comings in the operation of the scheme, This
prompted the N. C. D. C. to suggest to all
State Cooperative Marketing Federations to
undertake similar studies in one of the districts
in their respective States, with a view to
identifying and remedying the shortcomings
of the scheme.

Financial Assistance to Rice Mills for
Modernisation

2163. SHRI P, A. SAMINATHAN : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) the State-wise break-up of 48 existing
conventional rice mills which had been given
financial assistance for modernisation ;

(b) how many of them have been modcr*
nised so far ; and

prohlems relating to the organisation, establish-
ment, financing and working of these rice mills
which were discussed in the All India Con-
ference on Cooperative Rice Mills held at
Hyderabad in ‘November, 1971 ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) A statement
is laid on the Table of the House.

(b) Ten.

(c) The recommendations of the Con-
ference held at Hyderabad were communi-
cated to the State Governments and the apex
cooperative marketing Federations, who have
to initiate necessary action in the matter.
The N. C. D. C. provides 75% of the block
capital requirements for establishment of
modern rice mills in the cooperative sector,
under a Central Sector Scheme. It is also
providing assisttnee for the margin money
requirements of the rice mills to enable them
to raise adequate working capital from the
scheduled/commercial banks which have been
advised by the Reserve Bank of India to
liberally provide such assistance to modern
rice mills in the cooperative sector.

A special Working Group was constituted
to go into the difficulties faced by the coopera-
tive rice mills. As recommended by the
Group, the State Governments and the F. C.
I. have been advised to utilise cooperative
rice mills to the maximum extent possible for
the milling of paddy and also to increasingly
utilise the cooperatives in their procurement
operations. Arrangements have also been
made with the Indian Institute of Technology
Kharagpur, to conduct suitable courses for
training senior technical personnel of coopera-
tive rice mills. Besides, rice mill machinery
manufacturers have been requested to provide
efficient after-sales service and they have
agreed to do so.

Name of the State

No. of rice mills which
were assisted for moder-
nisation.

I. Andhra Pradesh

2. Assam

3. Bihar

4. Madhya Pradesh

5. Orissa

6. West Bengal

7. Mysore

Total 48

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Blueprints by National Cooperative
Development Corporation or Cooperatives
for establishing Agricultural processing
Units

2164. SHRI P. A. SAMINATHAN :
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) the number of model blueprints for-
mulated and circulated by the National
Cooperative Development Corporation during
the past three years for the purpose of pro-
viding guidelines to the cooperatives for and
establishment of agriculture processing units ;

(b) the number of agricultural processing
units established during the past three years
on the basis of model blueprints provided by
N. C. D. C. ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB. P. SHINDE) : (a) The National
Cooperative Development Corporation formu-
lated and circulated 15 model blueprints for the
purpose of providing guidelines to the coope-
ratives, for establishment of agricultural pro-
cessing units, during the last three years, i. e.
1969-70 to 1971-72.

(b) 56 cooperative processing units were
organised during the last three years based on
the model blueprints circulated by the N. C.
D. C.

Utilisation of Sugar bye-Prodncts by
Sugar Factories

2165. SHRI V. MAY A VAN : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) the names of locations of 14 sugar
factories which have taken up projects for the
utilisation of sugar bye-produrts ;

(b) whether any assessment has been
made of the difficulties faced by other coopera-
tive sugar factories in setting up projects for
the utilisation of sugar bye -products ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) So far as bagasse is concer-
ned, M/s. Shctkari Sahakari Sakhar Kar-
khana Ltd., Sangli, (Maharashtra) have
obtained a Letter of Intent for setting up a
plant for the manufacture of newsprint with

an annual capacity of 44,500 tonnes, based on
bagasse. Molasses is mainly used as raw
material in distillation industry. At present
37 sugar factories have distilleries attached to
them for the manufacture of industrial alcohol,
rectified spirit and potable liquors.

(b) and (c). The industries making use of
the bye -products of the sugar industry as raw
material are being looked after by different
Ministries. A co-ordinated assessment of the
difficulties faced by the cooperative sugar
factories in setting up such projects does not
appear to have been made so far.

Steps by National Cooperative Develop-
ment Corporation regarding Installation
of Sugar Factories on Cooperative basis

2166. SHRI V. MAYA VAN : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state t

(a) the steps taken by the National Co-
operative Development Corporation as a result
of the discussions held with the representatives
of newly licensed sugar cooperatives on the
5th and 6th July, 1971, at Poona, regarding
the difficulties being faced by them in complet-
ing the installation of their factories ; and

(b) how many factories have started
production as a result of the efforts of the
N. C. D. C. ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The N. C.
D. C. has taken the following steps in the
matter : —

(i) Raising of share capital

The State Governments have been request-
ed to enhance the Plan provisions for contri-
bution towards the share capital of sugar
cooperatives. In the case of some States, the
Plan provisions have been enhanced. However,
there is still a constraint of availability of
resources.

The sugar factories have been advised to
persuade cane growers to avail of facilities
available from the Reserve Bank of India for
medium term loans for purchase of shares in
newly lincensed cooperative sugar factories.
The Reserve Bank of India has also been
requested to simplify the scheme so as to
make it easy to operate,

(Ii) Availability of long term finances

The N. C. D. C. has maintained close

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liaison with the Industrial Finance Corporation
and is also represented on the Sugar Industry
Loan Advisory Committee of the IFC.

The IFC convened a Conference of all
newly licensed cooperative sugar factories in
April 1972, and there is now little difficulty
for eligible cooperative sugar factories in
obtaining loan from the Industrial Finance Cor-
poration for their block capital requirements.

(iii) Supply of plant and machinery

Liaison is being maintained with the
Ministry of Industrial Development, which
organised a meeting with manufacturers of
sugar mills machinery, and various measures
have been initiated to expedite, to the extent
possible, the supply of plant and machinery
ordered by sugar factories.

(tv) Development of sugarcane

The State Governments have been advised
to take special steps for the development of
sugarcane in the command area of newly
licensed sugar factories. The matter is being
followed up by the N. C. D. C.

(b) Subsequent to the Poona Conference,
6 new cooperative sugar factories have gone
into production.

Cooperative Sugar Factories

2167. SHRI V. MAYA VAN : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) the names and location of 74 coope-
rative sugar factories to whom an amount of
Rs. 65. 83 crores has been sanctioned as loan
up to June, 197 1 mentioned in para 23 of
Report, 1971-72 of Ministry of Agriculture
(Department of Cooperation) ; and

(b) the names and location of cooperative
sugar factories which are yet to pay the
initial loan back to the Industrial Finance
Corporation of India ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) A state-
ment is laid on the Table of the House*
[Placed in Library . See No. L-T 3392/72].

(b) The cooperative sugar factories which
have been marked with in the statement laid
0n the Table of the House have yet to pay
fully the initial loan obtained from the

Industrial Finance Corporation of India,

Non-Cooperation of Sugar Manufacturers
with Government

2168. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will the
Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased to
state :

(a) whether the sugar manufacturers have
decided not to co-operate with the Govern-
ment and not to accept the verdict of the
Government since 1st July, 1972 ; and

(b) the reaction of Government thereto ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) and (b). A number of
sugar factories have filed writ petitions in
the Supreme Court and the various High
Courts, and obtained interim orders restrain-
ing the Government from enforcing the Sugar
(Price Determination) Order, 1972, fixing
the prices of levy fugar, subject to the facto-
ries providing bank guarantees for the deffer-
ence between the notified prices and the
prices at which the sugar is actually sold by
them. The matter is sub judice .

Popularising Hindi In Eastern Region

2169. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Hindi Shiksha Samiti
has recommended that special attention
should be paid to popularising Hindi in the
eastern region of the country, specially in the
recently constituted States ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of Government
thereto and the steps taken in this direc-
tion ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF lEDUCATION AND SO*
CIAL WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMA*
SWAMY) : (a) At the meeting of the
Hindi Shiksha^ Samiti held on the 18th July,
1972, the representative from Meghalaya
suggested that special attention should be
paid for the spread of Hindi in the eastern
States.

(b) The Government of India will consi-
der favourably any request received cither
from the concerned State, Governments or
from the Voluntary Hindi Organisations for
financial assistance required for propagation
of Hindi in these States.

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Agency for opening Small and Marginal
Farmers Development Scheme in each
District

2170. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) whether Government have set up any
Agency for opening Small Farmers’ and
Marginal Farmers’ agencies in each District
in the country for the benefit of Small and
Marginal Farmers ;

(b) if so, the total number of such Small
Farmers’ and Marginal Farmers* Agencies
set up so far in the country ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : (a) No Sir.

(b) The pilot experiment of setting up
SFDA/MFAL Agencies has been taken up in
87 selected project areas of the country.

(c) According to the Progress reports
received from the Agencies, upto 31st May,
1972, 1.5 lakh small farmers under the SFDA
and 0.47 lakh marginal farmers and agricul-
tural labourers under the MFALs have been
benefited under various programmes.

Storage Capacity of Foodgrains

2171. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will
the Minister of AGRICULTURE be pleased
to state :

(a) the existing capacity of the storage
of foodgrains in India as on the 30th June,
1972 ;

(b) the quantity of foodgrains procured
by various State Governments in the country
during this year upto 30th June, 1972 ;

(c) whether some quantity of foodgrains
is still lying in open due to paucity of storage
facilities, if so, the steps taken by Govern-
ment to protect these foodgrains ; and

(d) the quantity of foodgrains damaged
due to lack of storage facilities in the country
during the last three years ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : (a) The
owned Storage capacity with Government
Agencies as on 31.3.1972 was as under:—

(in million tonnes )

Agency

Capacity

Food Corporation of India

4.33

State Governments

1.69

Central Warehousing Cor-

0.89

poration.

State Warehousing Cor-

0.35

porations.

Cooperatives

3.10

10.36

(b) A quantity of 8.3 million tonnes of
foodgrains has been procured upto the 30th
June, 1972, during the current Kharif and
Rabi procurement seasons.

(c) All procured foodgiains have been
kept under covered storage including cover
and plinth (GAP) storage. The owned capa-
city lias been supplemented by hired capacity
by the various Agencies.

(d) Foodgrains procured on Central
account have not been damaged due to lack
of storage facilities.

Smuggling of Priceless Fossils from Pun-
jab University to Yale University

2172. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will
the Minister of EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government’s attention has
been drawn to the smuggling of priceless
Fossils from Punjab University, Chandigarh to
Yale University, in violation of the contract ;

(b) if so, the action Government propose
to take or have taken in the matter ; and

THE MINISTER OF EDUCATION,
SOCIAL WELFARE AND CULTURE
(PROF. S. NURUL HASANj: (a) The Punjab
University has not reported any such case.

(b) and (c). Do not arise.

House Sites to Landless Workers in Kerala

2173. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN :

DR. HENRY AUSTIN :

Will the Minister of WORKS AND
HOUSING be pleased to state :

(a) whether any scheme regarding pro*

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vision of house sites to landless workers in
rural areas was forwarded by the Government
of Kerala ;

(b) if so, the nature of the assistance
sought from the Central Government ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING AND IN THE MINISTRY OF
WORKS AND HOUSING (PROF. D. P.
CHATTOPADHYAYA) : (a) Yes.

(b) The Government of Kerala had
sought Central assistance amounting to about
Rs. 8 crores ; comprising about Rs. 6 crores
for acquisition of land required for providing
house-sites to the landless workers in rural
areas, and Rs. 2 ciores towards development
of these sites.

(c) The Central Government have sanc-
tioned the projec ts for provision of 9(3,000
house sites, in 960 Panchayat areas. The
State Government have also been sanctioned
grant- in-atd of Rs. 2.74 crores during the
current financial year, out of which Rs. 2 02
crores is intended to meet 33-1/3% of the
cost of acquisition of about 46$ 1 acres of
land. The balance 66.2/3% of the cost of
land will be paid to the owners of the land
m the form of negotiable bonds to be re-
el cenicd by the State Government during the
next to financial years. The Government
of India will, in turn, reimburse these
amounts (as and when they become due) to
the State Government.

The remaining Rs. 72 lakhs of the sanc-
tioned Central assistance would cover 50%
of the cost of development of 96,000 house-
sites. The balance of 50% expenditure on
development of these sites will be arranged
by the State Government through voluntary
labour/contributions by the beneficiaries etc.

Grants given to Bogus Harijan Welfare
Organisation

2174. SHRI BIRENDER SINGH RAO :
Will the Minister of EDUCATION AND
SOCIAL WELFARE be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government of India have
received complaints that giants have been
Riven during the last many years in the names

bogus Harijan welfare organisations who
d° not exist ;

(b) if so, whether any enquiry had been

conducted by Government and if so, with
what results ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EDUCATION AND SOCIAL
WELFARE (SHRI K. S. RAMASWAMY) :

(a) No.

(b) and (c). Do not arise.

Supply of Helicopters by a Japanese firm
for Agricultural purpose

2175. SHRI BIRENDER SINGH RAO :
Will the Minister of AGRICULTURE be
pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have approached
a Japanese firm about the possibility of supply-
ing 40 helicopters for agricultural purposes
recently ;

(b) if so, whether any reply has since been
received from that firm ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P SHINDE) : (a) No, Sir.

(b) and (c). Do not arise.

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Role of Catholic Bishops Against the
Government Policy of Unifying fees in
Government and Private Colleges in
Kerala

2180. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN :
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be
pleased to state :

(a) whether the attention of Government
has been drawn to the fact that Catholic
Bishops in Kerala had taken direct part in
organising their religious followers in that
State, against the policy of Government in
unifying the fees in Government and private
colleges ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of Government
thereto ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) Efforts are being made to bring about
a settlement.

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190

Applications for Licences to start Indust-
ries in M. P.

2182. SHRI RANA BAHADUR SINGH :
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH-
NOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) the number of applications received
by Government from individuals and Compa-
nies from January 1970 to 31st March, 1972
for licences to start industries in Madhya
Pradesh with names of the applicants and the
nature of industries they wanted to start and
how many of them have been issued licences ;
and

(b) the location of the industries ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) and (bj. The number of applications for
licences for the establishment of new indust-
ries in Madhya Pradesh received during the
period 1.1.70 to 30.6.72 is 126. Six industrial
licences and 44 letters of intent for new
industries in Madhya Pradesh have been issued
during this period. Details of pending appli-
cations are normally not disclosed. The details
of all the liccnces/letters of intent issued,
showing also the industry to which they relate
and location etc., are regularly published in
the weekly ‘Bulletin of Industrial Licences,
Import Licences and Export Licences’, the
weekly ‘Indian Trade Journal', and the monthly
‘Journal of Industry and Trade'. Copies of
these publications are supplied to the Parlia-
ment Library.

Applications for Cement Plant in M. P.

2183. SIIRI MARTAND SINGH OF
REWA : Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) the number of applications pending
with his Ministry for sanction regarding the
opening of Cement Plants in Madhya Pradesh ;
and

(b) the reasons for delay in thei.' disposal ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
U) and (b) a One application belonging to a
Kroup of Larger Business Houses, is pending.
This is awaiting necessary clearance from the
M. R. T. P. angle.

Heavy Industries in M. P.

2184. SHRI MARTAND SINGH OF
REWA i Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) the number of heavy industries along
with their location, in Madhya Pradesh, both
in the public and private sectors along with
the items being manufactured by them ; and

(b) the number of persons employed by
them ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
LOPMENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR
PRASAD) :(a)The number of major industrial
units in Madhya Pradesh in the public and pri-
vate sectors is 26 and 112 respectively. Some of
the major industries of the State include
Industrial Machinery like rayon plant, solvent
extraction plantj crushing equipment, coal,
iron ore, iron and steel, steel castings, bright
bars and shadings, transformer generating
sets, switchgear and motors, aluminium con-
ductors, cement and asbestos cement products,
chemical industries, oil and flour milling,
paper, sugar, cotton and synthetic textiles.
Some of the important locations of industries
in the State are Bhopal, Ujjain, Dewas,
Maheshwar, Burhanpur, Kymore, Mandhar,
Chandni, Raipur, Bhilai, Indore, Gwalior,
Bailadilla, Satna, Jabalpur and Ratlam.

(b) The number of persons employed in
Public and Private Sectors is reported by the
State Government as 86,541 and 1,12,352,
respectively.

Enlargement of Fourth Plan For M.P. in
view of its Backwardness

2186. SHRI MARTAND SINGH OF
REWA :

SHRI G.C. DIXIT :

Will tl*c Minister of PLANNING be
pleased to state :

(a) whether Government propose to
enlarge the Fourth Five Year Plan for the
State of Madhya Pradesh in view of its back-
wardness ; and

(b) if BO, the details regarding the
schemes and allocation of money for this
purpose ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) On a review of

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192

the resources available for financing the
Fourlh Five Year Plan of Madhya Pradesh,
it has been found that the outlay on the
State's Plan can be increased to Rs. 435
crores from the present approved outlay of
Rs. 393 crores. This increase in outlay
is proposed to be financed from the State's
own resources. Recently a request has been
made for a further increase in the Fourth
Five Year Plan outlay of Madhya Pradesh.
The matter is under consideration.

(b) The sectoral allocation of the increas-
ed outlay proposed by the Government of
Madhya Pradesh is still to be decided.

Charge Indicator Meter

2187. SHRI AMAR NATH GHAWLA :
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS
be pleased to refer to the reply given to
Unstarred Question No. 2671 on the 12th
April, 1972 regarding Installation of telephone
meters and state :

(a) whether the field trial of the sophisti-
cated Charge Indicator meter, capable of
recording telephone calls, has since been com-
pleted and the question of installing these
meters at subscribers places has been decided;
and

(b) if so, when ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) No
Sir. Not Yet.

(b) Question does not arise.

Applicability of the Decision taken by
Cabinet Secretariat to Central Secretariat
Service

2189. DR. RANEN SEN : Will the
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state :

(a) whether the decision contained in
para 4 of the Cabinet Secretariat (Department
of Personnel's) O. M. No. 9/3/72-Estt. (D)
date the 22nd July, 1972 is applicable to the
Central Secretariat Service ; and

(b) if not, the reasons therefor ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSON-
NEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) i (a)
No, Sir.

(b) The instructions of 22nd July, 1972
are applicabe to those Services/posts under the

Centra! Government to which the general
principles of seniority as contained in MHA
O.M. No. 9/11/55-RPS dated 22nd December
1959 had been applied. The O. M. of 22nd
December 1959 was not applied to the Cen-
tral Secretariat Service for which separate
principles of seniority had been laid down.
The issue is, however, sub judtee since some of
the interested persons have recently filed writ
petitions in the Supreme Court.

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Written Answers

194

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Arrest of Thieves in Delhi and Goods
seised from them

2193. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN : Will
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased

to state :

(a) the total number of thieves arrested
in Delhi during the last six months for com-
mitting thefts, burglaries etc ;

(b) the total value of goods seized from
them ;

(d) whether goods so seized have since
been handed over to their actual owners and
if not, the reasons therefor and when the
goods are likely to be handed over to
them ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) 1208 persons were
arrested in the cases of thefts and burglaries
during the last six months i.e. from 1.2.1972
to 31.7.1972.

(b) Rs. 38,23,728.22 paise.

(c) 64 persons have been discharged.
Gases of 517 persons are under investigation
and 627 persons have been challaned. Of the
persons challaned, 79 have been convicted, 3
acquitted and cases of 545 persons are pen-
ding trial in courts.

(d) Such property seized by the police, is
returned under the orders of the court concer-
ned. Almost all the recovered property has
since been restored to its owners according to
the orders passed by the courts concerned.
However, in some of the cases, the property
which is to be exhibited in the court during
trial, has not yet been restored to the owners.
The same will be restored to them on
the decision of the cases or on superdari, as
and when the oiders arc received from the
courts concerned.

Construction of more Jails in Delhi

2194. SHRI SHASHI BHUSHAN : Will
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased
to state :

(a) whether there is heavy rush of prison-
hers in the Delhi Central Jail, Tihar and that
there are many irregularities being committed
there ;

(b) whether Government propose to
construct some more jails in the Capital ;
and

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Written Answers

196

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRl
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) Yes, Sir. Some irregu-
larities have been noticed.

(b) and (c). There is a proposal to cons-
truct one District Jail and two sub-jails.
However, no final decision has yet been taken
about their location.

Working of Mills under Government
Control

2195. SHRI BISHWANATH JHUN-
JHUNWALA : Will the Minister of INDUS-
TRIAL DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE
AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to
state :

(a) the total number of mills other than
textile mills that are now functioning under
Government control, fully or partially, for the
last five years ;

(b) in how many of tfiese mills the pro-
duction could be augmented during the said
period and what modernisation could be
brought about by Government in these mills and
the amount of money spent on this account ;

(d) whether Government have evolved
any common pattern for staff policy for
better efficiency in running these institutions
and if so, the salient features thereof ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :

(a) to (d). The information is being collected
and will he placed on the Table of the
House.

Shortage of Steel In Wagon Industry

2196. SHRI BISHWANATH JHUN-

JHUNWALA :

SHRI M. M. JOSEPH :

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state i

(a) whether the wagon making industry
has resented the decision of Government to
convert part of facilities available in the
Railway work-shops for manufacture of
wagons ;

(b) whether the industry has pointed
out that the supply was hampered due to

shortage in supply of steel and also arratic
supply orders which are sent in piecemeal ;
and

(c) if so, whether Government have
assessed the number of wagons that can be
produced in railway workshops and stream-
lined the process of placing orders with the
industry to help them achieve better
results ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) Government have not taken any deci-
sion to convert part of facilities available in
the railway workshops for manufacture of
wagons.

(b) The wagon buildeis have been
quoting shortage of steel as one of the reasons
for low production.

(c) The Ministry of Railways have decid-
ed that wagon building will be continued
only in three workshops. The 1972-7 5 target
for these three workshops is 2,860 units in
terms of four wheelers.

The wagon orders are placed with the
wagon industry on an annual basis and as
far as possible they are oidered in bulk, which
will facilitate the wagon builders m their
planning.

U. P. Land Ceilings Bill

2197. SHRI M. S. SIVASWAMY : Will
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased
to state:

(a) whether Uttar Pradesh Government
have referred to the Centre the question of le-
gality of the provision of its Land Ceilings Bill
giving retrospective effect to it in the light of
Supreme Court ruling striking down certain
provisions of the Kerala Land Reforms Act ;
and

(b) if so, the main points thereof and the
reaction of Central Government thereto?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MI-
NISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F. H.
MOHSIN) : (a) The Government of Uttar
Pradesh have sought inclusion of the U.P. Im-
position of Ceiling on Land Holdings (Amend-
ment) Bill, 1972, in the Ninth Schedule of the
Constitution.

(b) The proposal is being examined*

197

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196

Review of Cases of Convicts sentenced
for life Imprisonment, in Delhi

2198. SH1U ISHWAR CHAUDHRY :
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be
pleased state :

(a) whether the Revising Board of Delhi
Administration which reviews the cases of con-
victs sentenced for life imprisonment with a
view to releasing them, meets twice a year
in the months of February and August ;

(b) whether it has met during this year
and if not, the reasons therefor; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE MI-
NISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F. H.
MOHSIN) : (a) The Revising Board meets
twice a year but not necessarily in the months
of February and August.

(b) and (c) The Board has not met so far
this year because some members of the Board,
who were foimeily members of the Mctiopoli-
tan Council, did not get elected to the new
Council The Revising Boaid lias been recons-
tituted recently and is likely to meet during
this month.

Development in Hill Districts of Assam

2199. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI: Will the
Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state

(a) whether Government have provided
any extra fund for the developmental activi-
ties in the two Hill Distiicts of Assam namely,
Mikir Hills district and North Cachar Hills
District ,

(b) if so, the amount provided for the
years 1970-71 and 1971-72; and

(c) if not, will the Government consider
the cases of these two Hill districts to provide
special fund for development works as these
two Districts are very backward in comparison
to other Hill areas of the North Eastern Re-
gion ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN
DHARIA) : (a) In allocating Central assistance
foi financing the Fourth Plan of Assam State
which then included Mikir Hill District, Ca-
char Hill District, Shillong Municipal area and
the cantonment and also present Meghalaya
State and the Union Territory of Mizoram, the

development requirements and special prob-

lems of these areas were kept in view for
which due weightage was accorded.

(b) and (c). The information regarding
amounts provided in 1970-71 and 1971-72 for
these two Hill Districts in the present Assam
State is not available with the Government of
India. The Government of Assam have been
requested to furnish the required information,
which when received will be laid on the Table
of the House.

Annual Plan for Assam for 1972-73

2200. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will the
Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state ;

(a) the financial assistance demanded by
the Assam Government to implement the an-
nual plan for 1972-73; and

(b) the decision taken by the Planning
Commission thereon?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN
DHARIA) : (a) and (b). For the State Plan
1972-73, the Government of Asasm demanded
Central assistance of Rs. 45.41 crores to imple-
ment the Plan proposals amounting to Rs.
50.61 crores which included certain unspecified
outlays for areas which now form the Union
Territory of Mizoram since 21 1 1972. On the
basis of the assessment of State's contribution
and the resources availability at the Centre, an
outlay of Rs. 43 crores was approved to be
financed as under:

(Rs. crores)

Central assistance 35.46

State resources 7.54

Total: 43 00

The approved outlay of Rs. 43 crores in-
cludes Rs. 2.75 crorc? for the Union Territory
of Mizoram,

Copper Plate Awards for Political Suffer-
ers from Assam

2201. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will the
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to
state :

(a) the names of political sufferers from
Assam selected for the Copper Plate awards
on the occasion of the 25th anniversary of
Indian Independence ;

(b) the criteria and procedure followed
for such selection ;

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sufferers have been selected from Assam for
the said Copper Plate awards although there
are large number of eligible political sufferers
in the State ; and

(d) if so, the reasons therefor ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
K. C. PANT) : (a) to (d). Tamrapatras are to
be presented at ceremonies held from month
to month throughout the 25th Jayanti Year to
all those who had undergone imprisonment for
six months in the cause of freedom. The total
list for Assam is therefore still being prepared
by the Assam Government.

The first of these ceremonies field on
15 8.1972 was limited to only 1,000 freedom
fighters from all over the country. The list
of those from Assam who were invited to the
fiist ceremony is laid on the Table of the
House. [Placed in Library . See No. LT.
3393/72], It is based upon selections made by
the Assam Government, in the light of the
criteria laid down by the Government of
India.

Ordinance for take over of Educational
Institutions run by Certain Communities
in Kerala

2202. SHRI N. K. SANGHI :

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE :

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS
be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Kerala Government have
approached the Centre on promulgation of an
Ordiancc by State Government to enable it
to take over the educational institutions run
by certain communities in Kerala, as manage-
ments of these institutions refuse to re open
them, resulting in a large number of students
being denied the educational facilities ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of Central Govern-
ment and the circumstances that led to the
managements to close down the institutions ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) and (b). The Govern-
ment of Kerala have forwarded for instructions
of the President, the Kerala Private Colleges
(Regulation of Management) Ordinance, 1972
which seeks to empower the State Govern-
ment to take over the management of the
private Colleges in Kerala temporarily. The
draft Ordinance is under consideration.

Setting up of Special Cell for Atomic
Minerals

2203. SHRI RAJ DEO SINGH : Will the
Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be pleased
to state :

(a) whether Government propose to set
up a special cell for coordinating and investi-
gating atomic minerals in the country ; and

(b) whether the results of primary inves-
tigations are promising ?

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI):
(a) No, Sir. The Atomic Minerals Divisions
of the Department of Atomic Energy is res-
ponsible for survey, prospecting and explora-
tory development of atomic minerals which
are required for the atomic energy pro-
gramme.

(b) Yes, Sir. The details are given in the
Annual Reports ol the Department of Atomic
Energy which are cii eulated to the Honouiable
Members and copies of which are available
in the Parliament Library.

Programme for providing Self-employ-
ment to Educated Persons in Rural Sector

2204. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR : Will the
Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state
whether a new programme is proposed to be
launched for providing self-employment to
educated peisons in the luial secloi ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARlA) : There is no specific
programme under consideration of Government
for providing self-employment to educated
persons in the rural sector. However, the
following schemrs initiated by Government
of India in 1971-72 arc likely to provide op-
portunities for self-crapJoymrnt to educated
persons in the rural sector :

(i) Setting up of agro service centres,

(ii) Financial assistance to entrepreneurs
for setting up of industries.

Zoological Survey of India

2205. SHRI SAROJ MUKHERJEE :
Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND TECH-
NOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government are considering

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the recommendations of Shri Jacob Kurian,
Member of Indian National Commission on
the Zoological Survey of India ; and

(b) if not, the reasons therefor ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMNET AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMANI-
AM) : (a) No. Sir, the Government are
not aware of any recommendation made by
Shri Jacob Kurian on the Zoological Survey
of India.

(b) Does not arise .

Shifting of the Office of Zoological Survey
of India from Calcutta

220b SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE :
Will the Minister ^f SCIENCE AND TECH-
NOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) vvhethci the Government arc aware
of the shifting of Offices of Zoological Survey
of India fiom Calcutta ; and

(b) if so, the reasons for shifting those
ofiiccs ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C SUBRAMANIAM):
(a) No, Sir. Theic is no proposal for the
shifting of offices ot the Zoological Servey
of India fiom Calcutta.

(b) Docs not arise.

Bihar Scheme for Unemployed

2207. SHRI RAM SHEKHAR PRASAD
SINGH : Will the Minister of PLANNING
be pleased to state :

(a) whether Bihar Government has pre-
pared a special scheme for providing employ-
ment to about 64,000 educated, skilled and
unskilled men in the State if so, the total
amount lequired for the purpose ,

(b) whether the Centre has agreed to give
some financial help to the States for imple-
mentation of the scheme ; and

(c) whether some other States have also
formulated such schemes ; and if so, to what
extent Centre has agreed to give financial
help to these States for implementation of
the schemes ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN
HHARIA) : (a) to fc). A statement is laid on

the Table of the House. [Placed in Librat y. See
No. LT. 3394/72]

Big Powers behind Agitation against
Simla Agieement

2208. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDD Y:

SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH

MALIK :

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS
be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government’s attention has
been drawn to the news item which appeared
in the ‘Tribune’ on 10th July, 1972 captioned
'Big Powers behind agitation against Simla
Agreement’ ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of Government
thereto ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI

F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) Yes, Sir.

•

(b) Government have no other informa-
tion in this regard.

Criteria for Promotion of Class IV Staff
as L«D.Cs.

2209. SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZAL-
PURKAR : Will the PRIME MINISTER be
pleased to state :

(a) whether a number of qualified Class
IV Employees in the Government of India arc
waiting for their chances in the Lower Divi-
sion Clerks grade ; and

(b) if so 3 the number of such employees
and the criteria Government have adopted to
promote class IV employees as Lower Division
Clerks in the Ministries and other offices ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and
(b). Class III is not a promotion post for
Class IV employees as the nature of duties
of the two posts arc altogether different and
as the experience in the Glass IV posts would
not be of any value in the L.D.Cs. post.
However, with a view to giving an opportu-
nity to educationally qualified Class IV em-
ployees for entry into Class III posts, a num-
ber of concessions have been provided under
which such Class IV employees can register
their names with the Employment Exchange for
Class III posts and on nominations by the
Employment Exchange, they can be consi-
dered for appointment to such posts after

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giving weightagc of age relaxation to the
extent of their service in Glass IV ; they can
also be considered for appointment in Class

III in the offices in which they are working
even though their names may not be amongst
those sponsored by Employment Exchange.
In addition, reservations have also been pro-
vided for educationally qualified Class IV em-
ployees to the extent of 10% of the vacancies
in the post of Lower Division Clerks to be
filled on the basis of a test confined to Class

IV employees who have put in at least five
years of service in a Class IV post and who
are 45 years of age (50 years for Scheduled
Castes and Scheduled Tribes). The scheme
is not applicable to Railways. Post and Tele-
graphs and the Indian Audit and Accounts
Department who have their own schemes for
appointment of their Class IV employees to
Class III posts.

According to the information available,
599 Class IV employees workirg in the Minis-
tries/Departments applied for admission to
the Restricted Examination held in April,
1970 for appointment against 10% reserved
vacancies, out of whom 341 were admitted to
the Examination and 91 of them were finally
appointed as Lower Division Clerks. Similarly
81 and 65 Class IV employees were appointed
as Lower Division Clerks on ihe results of the
Restricted Examinations held in December,
1970 and June, 1971, respectively. Thus out
of a total of 599 Class IV employees in the
Ministries/Departments, who claimed eligibi-
lity for appointment to Class III posts, a total
of 237 have so far been appointed as Lower
Division Clerks. Only 285 Class IV employees
working in the Ministries/Departments have
applied for, admission to the Restricted Exami-
nation held in June, 1972 and it is expected
that in the years to come, the educationally
qualified Class IV employees would have rea-
sonable prospects for appointment to
Class III posts.

Arbitration on D.A. Formula

2210. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY :
Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to
state :

(a) whether Government have conceded
the demand of its employees that the dearness
allowance determining formula should be
arbitrable if differences arose between the
parties ; and

(b) if so, the main features thereof ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE

MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and
(b). The Staff Side of the National Council
set up under the J. C. M. Scheme had request-
ed that the formula for determining D.A.
should be revised so as to :

(1) reduce the time factor for determin-
ing the average index increase from
12 months to three months ;

(2) reduce the points factor from 10 points
average to 5 points average ;

(3) calculate ihe quantum factor on the
basis of full neutralisation of the pay
of every single employee in all the
categories, of Class IV and Class III
staff ; and

(1) extend the Dearness allowance to
cover all employees receiving a basic
pay up to Rs. 1,000/- per month on a
tapering off basis.

2. As no agreement was possible in res-
pect of this demand, a disagreement was
recorded at the National Council meeting held
on the 29th and 30th May, 1970 On a point
raised by the Staff Side about the arbitrability
of the D. A. determining formula, Govern-
ment have decided that the specific demand
of the Staff Side, referred to in para 1 above,
would be treated as arbitrable.

Farmers Agitation in Tamil Nadu

2211. SHRI BANAMALI PATNAIK :

SHRI DINEN BHATTACH ARYYA :

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS
be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Tamil Nadu Chief Minis-
ter has written to her about the farmers* agi-
tation and their demands ;

(b) whether the demands of the farmers
ran counter, to the Centre’s policy in this
regard ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F.
H. MOHSIN) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) At a meeting of the National Develop-
ment Council held in last May, there was
general agreement that it was necessary to
explore all possibilities of raising additional

resources for the Fifth Five Year Plan. Tax

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measures relatable to entries in List II of the
Seventh Schedule of the Constitution are,
however, entirely for the State Governments
to consider.

(c) The Government of India and the
Planning Commission have been anxious that
State Governments should raise additional
resources for financing their development plans
in the same way as the Government of India
had been raising additional resources for the
development of the country. Since the need
for raising such resources had never been in
question, misgivings, if any, regarding specific
methods for raising such resources should be
dispelled in a democratic way.

Commission of Inquiry on Larger Indus-
trial Houses of Tatas, Birlas
and Sahu Jains

2212. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI :
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH-
NOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Commission of Inquiry
on Large Industrial Houses has been able to
finalise any case so far ; and

(b) if not, the probable time by which the
concerns of Tatas, Birlas and Sahu Jains will
be examined ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :

(a) and (b). The investigations including
those relating to concerns of Tatas, Birlas
and Sahu Jains, by the Commission of Inquiry
on Large Industrial Houses are in progress.
On the request of the Commission, the time
for submission of its report to the Government
has been extended for another year with
effect from 18-2-1972.

Distribution of Tamra Patras on tbs
Occasion of 25th Anniversary of
Indian Independence

2213. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased
to state whether ‘Tamra Patras’ and reception
will be given on the occasion of 25th Anni-
versary Indian Independence to leaders, parti-
cipants and ex-convicts connected with (i)
Gadar Party, (ii) First World War Indo-
German Conspiracy Case, (iii) Kakori Conspi-
racy case, (iv) Chittagong Armoury Raid case,
(v) Labang (Darjeeling) Shooting case, (vi)
Gommilla DM Shooting case, (vii) Interpro-
vinciai Conspiracy cases, (viii) other conspiracy

cases connected with their revolutionary strug-
gle, (ix) Andaman Cellular jail prisoners, (x)
ex-convicts who were given life imprisonments
in connection with revolutionary activities
and (xi) heroes of August Revolution, parti-
cularly of .Balia, Behar, Midnapur, Balurghat
and Sitara ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
K. C. PANT) : All freedom fighters who have
undergone imprisonment in the cause of the
freedom of the country for a period of not
less than six months are eligible for Tamra
Patras. State Governmcnts/Union Territory
Administrations were asked to compile lists
of freedom fighters on that basis.

Promotion of Selection Grade Stenogra-
phers to the Posts of Under Secretaries

2214. SHRI S. M BANERJEE : Will the
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to refer to
the reply given* to Starred Question No. 710
on 5th May, 1972 and state :

(a) the number of Selection Grade Steno-
graphers promoted to the posts of Under
Secretary during the last three years ;

(b) the number of Section Officers pro-
moted to the posts of Under Secretary during
the same period ;

(c) whether there is only one seniority list
for both the categories viz , Selection Grade
Stenographers and Section Officers ; and

(d) if not, the reason therefor ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) Nil.
The Selection Grade of the Central Secretariat
Stenographers* Service was introduced from
the 1st August, 1969, when the Service was
reorganised, and the Selection Grade Steno-
graphers have come within the field of consi-
deration for promotion to the Grade of Under
Secretary only this year. Prior to 1st August
1969, Stenographers Grade I were eligible
for promotion as Under Secretaries through
the Section Officers’ Grade.

(b) 220 (including 9 officers who had
been promoted to the Section Officers Grade
from the erstwhile Grade I of the Central
Secretariat Stenographers Service).

(c) A combined seniority list of Section
Officers of the Central Secretariat Service
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Secretariat Stenographers Service is prepared
in accordance with the Central Secretariat
Service (Promotion to Grade I and Selection
Grade) Regulations, 1964 for the purpose of
preparing a Select List of officers approved
for promotion as Under Secretaries.

(d) Does not arise.

Sales Tax on Silk Fabrics

22 J 5. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD
VERMA: Will the Minister of HOME
AFFAIRS be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Delhi Hindustani Mer-
cantile Association has urged the withdrawal
of the notification imposing Sales tax on Pure
Silk febrics ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of Government
thereto ?

THli DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) and (b). Govern-

ment have received a representation from the
Delhi Hindustani Mercantile Association,
Delhi in which the Association has requested
for the withdrawal of sales tax on pure silk
fabrics. ‘Silk Fabrics)* was covered by the
scheme of levy of additional excise duty in
lieu of sales tax. With the withdrawal of
additional excise duty on silk fabrics, the
latter was also deleted from the list of declared
goods. Thus States became entitled to levy
sales tax thereon. In the meeting of the
Regional Council for Sales Tax for the
Northern Zone, a decision was taken to impose
sales tax on ‘Silk Fabrics*. The imposition of
Sales Tax in Delhi is in pursuance of this
recommendation. Since the imposition, re-
presentations have been received from the
traders in Delhi against the levy. It has been
decided to place the matter again before the
Regional Council for consideration of the
matter in the light of these representations.
The next meeting is likely to be held some-
times after September, 1972.

Reservation of Posts for Ex-servicemen

and Dependants of killed Personnel

2217. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA:

SHRI P. M. MEHTA :

Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased
to state :

(a) whether twenty seven and a half
percent of the vacancies in class IV posts and
17 £ per cent in class III posts are going to

be reserved for ex-servicemen and dependants
of those killed in action ; and

(b) if so, upto what date the reservations
will remain in force ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a)
Reservations have been provided for ex-
Servicemen at 10% of the vacancies in each
of the categories of Class III posts and of
such posts in each Class III service, and 20%
of the vacancies in each of the categories of
Class IV posts and of such posts in Class IV
service. Orders also provide that the per-
centages of reservations for ex-Servicemen in
a category of posts shall be increased or
decreased in any one recruitment year to the
extent to which the total number of vacancies
reserved for ex-Servicemen, Scheduled Castes
and Scheduled Tribes (including the carried
forward reservations for Scheduled Castes
and Scheduled Tribes) and for any other
categories taken together falls short or is in
excess, as the case may be, of 50% of the
vacancies in that category of posts filled in
that year. No reservations have been provided
in Class III and Class IV posts for dependents
of those killed in action. However, under
the existing instructions, two members each of
the ramifies of Defence Services personnel
killed in action can be appointed to vacancies
in Glass III and Class IV posts filled by direct
recruitment without registration at the Em-
ployment Exchange.

(b) The orders of reservations for ex-
Servicemen will remain in force up to 30th
June, 1974.

Development of a Process for manu-
facture of Tartaric Acid from Tamarind
Leaves by Regional Research Laboratory,
Jorhat

2218. SHRI RAJDEO SINGH i Will
the Minister of SCIENCE AND TECHNO-
LOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Regional Research
Laboratory, Jorhat has developed a process
for the manufacture of tartaric acid from
tamarind leaves ;

(b) whether tamarind leaves arc available
in plenty in South India ; and

contemplating to exploit the tame on

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commercial basis, and the decision taken* in
the matter ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA-
MANIAM) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) It is reported, in some areas, there is
a possibility to collect the leave? in reasonable
quantity.

(c) The National Research Development
Corporation (NRDC) is negotiating with
interested parties for commercial exploitation
of the process.

Export of Argon Gas by Indian Oxygen

2219. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR :
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE-
VELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) the reasons why Indian Oxygen has
been permitted to export Argon gas while
there is shortage within the country ;

(b) the name of the undertaking which is
the largest manufacturer of Argon gas within
the country ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :

(a) Export of Aigon gas by Messis Indian
Oxygen Limited was started in 1968 at a time
when the production of the gas in the country
was in excess of the local demand and great
emphasis has been laid on cxpoit drive in as
many industries as possible. Recently, on
receipt of reports regarding shortage of
Argon gas Messrs Indian Oxygen Limited
have been asked to go slow on their export
commitments.

(b) Messrs Indian Oxygen Limited,
Calcutta.

(c) Besides stepping up the production of
Argon gas at the Trombay Unit of the
Fertilizer Corporation of India, Government
have issued letters of intent for creation of
additional capacity for the manufacture of
Argon gas. Certain existing units have also
been assisted in organising the recovery of

Argon from their air separation plants.

Mechanised Brick Plants set up in the
Country

2220. SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH i
SHRI K. MALLANNA :

Will the .Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE-
VELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether the mechanised brick plants
set up in the country for manufacturing bricks
are running in loss ;

(b) if so, names of such plants in the
country which are running in loss ; and

(c) whether the production of these plants
have also gone down ; and the steps taken or
proposed to be taken to improve the draw
backs of the plants ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIQDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) to (c). ‘Bricks’ is not an industry included
in the Schedule to the Industries (Develop-
ment and Regulation) Act, 1951 and, therefore,
not all units report their production to the
Government of India. However, according
to the production figures reported, there has
not been fall in production of building bricks
by the mechanised process.

A mechanised brick unit set up by the
National Buildings Construction Corporation,
has been incurring losses practically since
inception in 1967-68. A number of expert
studies were carried out for improving the
working of the plant. A Committee set up in
December, 1971 submitted its report in
March, 1972, and its recommendations arc
under examination by the Ministry of Works
and Housing.

Report by the Scientific and Technical
Personnel Department of CL S. I. R. on
Unemployed Graduates

222 1 . SHRI ATAL BIHARI VAJPAYEE :
Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether a report of the study made
by the Scientific and Technical Personnel
Department of the Council of Scientific and
Industrial Research in regard to unemployed
and under employed graduates and those
graduates who have abandoned efforts for
employment has since been received ; and

(b) if so, broad outlines of the report

and the action taken thereon f

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THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA-
NIAM) : (a) The Division for Scientific and
Technical Personnel of Council of Scientific
and Industrial Research (CSIR) carried out a
study of unemployment amongst Technical
personnel and other graduates in the country
on the basis of the data collected in the 1971
Census Under employment or the number
of graduates who had abandoned efforts for
employment were not included in the study.

(b) 5,79,858 persons with at least a first
degree in Science, Agriculture, Arts or Com-
merce or at least a diploma in Engineering,
Technology or Medicine were estimated to be
unemployed in April, 1971. They constitute
19.1% or about one fifth of the estimated
total stock in these categoiies. Out of these,
1,58,574 persons were not looking for em-
ployment ; majority of them (1,27,644) were
women. Reason why they uvere not looking
for employment is not known.

The study revealed that among the pro-
fessional qualification holders medical doctors
and veterinarians have the lowest percentage
of unemployment i.e. about 5 to 6 per cent.
Post-Graduates in Agriculture comes next with
about 8% of unemployment. Graduates in
Engineering and Technology as well as in
Agricultural Science and Post-Graduates in
Science have a little higher rate of unemploy-
ment ranging from 11 to 15%.

Amongst all the categories, the highest
unemployment is among the first graduates in
Science i.e . about 25%. For Arts graduates
(first degree only) it is nearly 24%.

The Government of India is concerned
about the unemployment amongst educated
persons and have already taken some steps.
An “Expert Committee on Unemployment”
has been appointed to assess the extent of
unemployment and to suggest remedial
measures. A sum of Rs. 50 crores has been
allocated in the 4th Plan for employment of
educated unemployeds, of which, an amount
of Rs. 20 crores has been allocated in this
year’s budget. An amount of Rs. 27 crores
has been earmarked by the Planning Com-
mission for allocation to State Governments
for formulating special employment pro-
grammes for which the States will have to
contribute another 27 crores. Nationalised
Banks also render financial help to enterprising
unemployed presons. Planning Commission
and the State Governments arc also consider-
ing the problems of unemployment.

Besides these, schemes like Scientists' Pool,
Research Fellowships, Supernumerary appoint-
ments are in operation to help the Scientific
and Technical Personnel, in particular.

Survey of Unemployed Engineers

2222. SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Will
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased
to state:

(a) whether Government have made a
survey of the unemployed engineers on the
basis of 1971 Census; and

(b) if so, the main points thereof?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F.
H. MOHSIN) : (a) In the main schedule
which was canvassed on universal basis at the
1971 Census, no question on unemployment
was asked.

However, along with the main schedule an
ancillary special schedule called “Degree Hol-
ders & Technical Personnel Cards’* was can-
vassed by self-enumeration method among Deg-
ree Holders & Technical Diploma or Certifi-
cate Holders only. The coverage of this an-
cillary schedule cannot be said to be compre-
hensive. One of the data items of this special
schedule related to unemployed engineers.

(b) The main points of the data-item men-
tioned in (a) above are : —

(i) Number of unemployed engineers by
sex break up with —

(a) Degree level and above.

(b) Diploma level, in each of the en-
gineering subject fields viz., (i) Agri-
cultural engineering, (ii) Architecture/
Town & Country Planning, (iii) Civil,

• (iv) Electrical, (v) Elcctronic/Tclc-
communication Radio, (vi) Mechani-
cal, (viij Chemical, (viii) Mining,
(ix) Metrology, (x) Auto Engineering,
(xi) Aero Engineering, (xii) Public
Health/Sanilary Enginecring/Produc-
tivc/ Industrial Engineering, (xiii)Othcr
Engineering and Technology.

(it) Number of unemployed engineers try-
ing for a job ; and

(iii) Number of unemployed engineers not
trying for a job.

Provisional figures of unemployed engineers
according to the al>ove characteristics are given
in the Statement laid on the Table of the
House. [Placed in Library . See No. LT-3395/72].

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Nepali Language speaking People in India

2223. SHRI RATTANLAL BRAHMAN s
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be
pleased to state the number of Nepali langua-
ge-speaking people in India on the basis of
1971 Census?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F.
H. MOHSIN): The 1971 Census data on
mother- tongue is still under compilation and
therefore the requisite information is not avail-
able at present.

Memorandum submitted by M. Pb. re-
presenting Backward Areas

2224. SHRI K. KODANDA RAMI RE-
DDY: Will the Minister of PLANNING be
pleased to state :

(a) whether at the end of the last Session,
a memorandum was submitted to the Prime Mi-
nister by the Members of Parliament repre-
senting chronically backward areas ; and

(b) if so, the action taken thereon?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN
DHARIA) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) The memorandum is under examina-
tion.

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Body of Experts on Utilization of News-
print

2228. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR : Will the
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT
AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be
pleased to state:

(a) whether Government propose to set up
an impartial body of experts to advise both the
Government and the newspaper industry on
the question of supply, demand, requirements
and utilisation of newsprint ; and

(b) if not, how Government piopose to
settle the issue?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :

(a) and (b). There is already a newsprint Ad-
visory Committee, set up by the Ministry of
Information and Broadcasting, to advise the
Government on question of policy relating im-
port and allocation of news-print and printing
machinery for newspapers and other connected
matters. There is no proposal to set up any
other body of experts.

Self-Sufficiency In Crucial Sectors of
Economy

2229. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR : Will
the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to
state :

(a) whether Government have made any
fresh efforts to achieve self-sufficiency in the
crucial sectors of the Indian economy in the
quickest possible time ; and

(b) if so, the steps taken in that direc-
tion ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN
DHARIA) : (a) and (b). Special pro-
grammes are included in the annual plans for
promoting the objective of self-sufficiency
through larger domestic out put and faster
impoit substitution. The Annual Plan for
1972-73 incorporates special programmes for
the improvement in the output of raw-cotton,
raw-jute and oilseeds in the held of agricul-
tural production. The programmes for in-
dustrial production make additional provi-
sion for creation of capacity in aluminium

and copper, and larger allocations for oil
exploration and petroleum refining as also
for better utilisation of existing capacity in
steel and fertilisers. Provision has also been
made for initiating work on modernisation of
jute and cotton textile industries and removal
of capacity constraint in other export- oriented
industries.

The National Committee on Science and
Technology investigating the scope for import
substitution by improving technology and
productivity of mining and manufactures
producing machinery and equipment, chemi-
cals, non-ferrous metals, special alloys, fuels
and minerals. An action Committee for pub-
lic sector undertakings is engaged in formu-
lating concrete recommendations enterprise
by enterprise for improving capacity utilisa-
tion. Fuither, industry wise studies are being
undertaken both in the piivate and public
sectors for identifying production bottlenecks
and suggesting measures to remove them.

Certificates of Eligibility for Appoint-
ment to Civil Services issued to Persons
other than Indians

2230. SHRI S. N. MISRA : Will the
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state ;

(a) How many certificates of eligibility
for appointment to the Civil Services and
post under the Union Government have been
issued to persons othei than the Indian
Citizens in the last three years ;

(b) to which countries and which na-
tionality such persons belong ;

(d) whether any of those persons has
been found engaged in subversive activities
during the Indo-Pak wai ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and
(b). During the period from the 1st May,
1969 to the 30th April, 1972, 31 certificates
of eligibility for appointment to posts under
the Government of India were issued in
favour of persons other than Indian citizens.
Of these, 25 were from Nepal, 4 from Pakis-
tan, 1 from the Burma and 1 from Kenya.

not to allow employment of non- Indians in

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civil posts under Government. However,
exceptions have been made in the case of
citizens of certain neighbouring countries and
also persons of Indian origin, who have
migrated from certain foreign countries with
the intention of permanently settling in India.
Before the certificates of eligibility are issued
in their cases, the appointing authorities
satisfy themselves that the candidates are
suitable for appointment in all respects.

(d) While no such specific instance has
come to notice so far, the position is being
verified with the concerned authorities.

Recovery of Arms and Ammunition from
Dacoits Surrendered Recently

2231. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased
to state :

(a) the total number of arms and ammu-
nition recovered from the dacoits who recent-
ly sui tendered to the peace Mission in
Madhya Pradesh ;

(b) the number of prohibited arms among
them ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F H MOHSIN) : (a) 271 arms and about
18000 cartridges were recovered from the
dacoits who have surrendered between the
middle of April to the end of July, 1972.

(b) and (c). The information is being
collected and will be laid on the Table of
the House.

Inter State Transfers of I. A. S. and I. P. S.

Officers

2232. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will
the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Indian Administrative
Service and Indian Police Service Odficers,
whose services .have been allocated to the
various States and Union Territories, are not
allowed inter-State transfers ; if so, the rea-
sons therefor ;

(b) whether any proposal is under consi-
deration of Government to allow these Offi-
cers to be transferred from one State to

another ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) to

(c). Under the rules governing the manage-
ment of the cadres of the Indian Administra-
tive Service and the Indian Police Service-
members of these two All-India Services can
be transferred from one Cadre to another by
the Central Government with the concurrence
of the State Governments concerned. Ac-
cording to the general policy of the Govern-
ment of India, such inter-cadre transfers are
made only in administrative/public interest
or in exceptional circumstances on personal
grounds.

Issue of Licences to Agro-Industries Cor-
porations Punjab and Haryana

2233. SHRI *SAT PAL KAPUR: Will
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO-
LOGY be pleased to state :

(a) the number of licences issued by the
Central Government to the Industrial Deve-
lopment Corporation and Agro-Industries
Corporations of Punjab and Haryana during
the last three years ;

(b) the number of licences actually uti-
lised and the number of factories set up by
them, separately ;

(d) whether Government propose to fix
some time limit for early utilisation of these
licences ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) Five including the licences issued to
M/s. Punjab Tractors Limited, M/s. Punjab
Breweries Limited and Haryana Dairy Deve-
lopment Corporation.

(b) and (c). These licences are in various
stages of implementation as it normally takes
2-3 years for an industry to start production.

(d) The conditions attached to an in-
dustrial licence usually stipulate a time-limit
of 12 months within which an industry should
be established.

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Issue of Licences for Setting up Indus-
tries in Backward Areas

2234. SHRI SAT PAL KAPUR : Will
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO-
LOGY be pleased to state :

(a) the number of industrial licences
issued to the different parties in India for the
setting of industries in backward areas during
the last three years ;

(b) the number of industries set up so far
as a lesult of these licences during the same
period and the nature of industries thus set up ;

(c) whether Government propose to fix
some time-limit within which an industry
should be set up after the granting of
licence ; and

(d) if so, the time-limit proposed ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :

(a) 89 loi Substantial Expansion, New

Undertakings or New Articles and 63 for
Carrying-on-Business.

(b) Reports in respect of 34 industries
having been set up have been received so far.
These include metallurgical industries, boilers
and steam generating plants, electrical
equipment, telecommunications, transporta-
tion, chemicals (other than fertilizers), food
processing industries, vegetable oils and vanas-
pali, glass and ceramics.

(c) and (d). The conditions attached to
an industrial licence usually stipulate a time-
limit of 12 months within which an industry
should be established.

Medico-Industrial Television designed
by the Central Scientific Instruments
Organisation

2235. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN-
THAM :

SHRI VEKARIA :

Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased
to state :

(a) whether a new medical-industrial
television has been designed and developed
by the Central %jcntific Instruments Organi-
sation ; if so, the main features of the new
Television ;

(b) the cost of production of the new
equipment ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
K. C. PANT) : (a) The Central Scientific

Instruments Organisation (CSIO) has design-
ed and developed a multi-channel display
unit for monitoring and display of a
variety of clinical and industrial obser-
vations, such as electro-cardiogram, tempera-
ture, pulse rate, respiration, blood Pressure,
fetal heart beats etc., as also multi-channel
display of flow, pressure, vibrations and
turbulence etc.

(b) and (c). The CSIO Chandigarh have
intimated that the cost of each such unit
would be around Rs. 5,000 and that the price
of the equivalent imported unit would be of
the order of Rs. 10,000 to Rs. 20,000 each.

Newsreel Containing Pictures of Office
of Tamil Daily’s after it was Ransacked

2236. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN-
THAM : Will the Minister of INFORMA-
TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to
state :

(a) whether the Films Division had taken
pictures of the Office of the leading Tamil
daily ‘Alai Oi«ii* immediately after it was
ransacked by a group of persons on 16th
June, 1972 ,

(b) whether the newsreel containing these
pictures was withdrawn from cinema houses in
Madras after it was shown only for one day,
if so, the reasons thereof ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) and (c). The portion of the con-
cerned newsreel, covering the attack on
“Alai Osai” was withdrawn from screening in
Tamil Nadu State, by the local representa-
tive of the Films Division, at the instance of
the State Government.

Foreign Shares In Indian Telephone
Industries

2237. SHRI S. A. MURUGANAN-
THAM : Will the Minister of COMMUNI-
CATIONS be pleased to refer to the reply
given to Starred Question No. 980 on 24th

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May, 1972 regarding foreign shares in I. T. I,
and state :

(a) whether Government have since taken
any decision regarding the shares held by the
foreign companies in the Indian Telephone
Industries Limited ; and

(b) if so, the nature of decision taken ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a)
and (b). The matter is still under Govern-
ment’s consideration.

Letter allegedly written by Prime
Minister to Chief Ministers of States
about Humane Treatment to Suspected
Nazalites

2238. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Will
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased
to state :

(a) whether the Prime Miniter has
written a letter recently to the Chief Ministers
of Andhra Pradesh, Assam, Bihar, Kerala,
Orissa, Punjab and West Bengal, urging
them to take steps so that the Suspected
Naxalites arc given humane treatment ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of State Govern-
ment thereto ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) The Prime Minister
had on the 1st May, 1972, written to the
Chief Ministers of Andhra Pradesh, Assam,
West Bengal, Bihar, Orissa, Punjab and
Kerala that only imaginative and humane
treatment of persons suspected of involve-
ment in Naxalite activities can help to end the
recrudescence of extremism. Certain concrete
steps for the long term rehabilitation of these
persons were also suggested.

(b) In their replies, Chief Ministers of
Andhra Pradesh, Bihar, Orissa and Punjab
have expressed their agreement with the
approach suggested by the Prime Minister
and have informed that steps are being taken
accordingly. Replies from the Chief Ministers
of the remaining three States arc awaited.

Manufacture of Precision Tools to colla-
boration with Mitsubishi of Japan

2239. SHRI K. LAKKAPPA :

SHRI P. GANGADEB :

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND

TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether Mitsubishi Heavy Industries
Limited, a Japanese Company, have signed
a contract with an Indian Company to
extend technical assistance in manufacturing
and selling precision tools in India ; and

(b) whether Government have given
approval thereto ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) and (b). M/s. S. R. P. Tools Ltd,
Madras have signed a technical agreement
with Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd.,
Tokyo, Japan for the manufacture of cutting
tools such as Hobs, Gear Shaper Cutters,
Broaches and Shaving Cutters. The techni-
cal collaboration agreement has been appro-
ved by the Government.

Development of Palamau (Bihar)

2240. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI :
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH-
NOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) the action taken by the Central
Government for industrialisation of the indus-
trially backward District of Palamau (Bihar) ;

(b) whether no programme of industriali-
sation of the District has so far materialised ;
and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN TOE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) and (b). Palamau district of Bihar is one
of the 225 districts in the country selected by
the Planning Commission for grant of conce-
ssional financial assistance from financial
institutions to attract new industries to this
district and also to encourage expansion or
industries if already in existence in this
district.

Under the centrally sponsored scheme of
Rural Industries Projects Programme, Palamau
district has been selected as a RIP District
under the second series of RIP Projects for
the Fifth Plan. Detailed guidelines for conduc-
ting industrial potential surveys and pre-
paration of plan for industrial development
have been issued. These preliminary works
are expected to be completed by the end of
1973-74. Necessary fund has been placed with

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State Government for preliminary works for

1972-73.

Information Centre for Bihar to be Started
in New Delhi

2241. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI :
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING be pleased to state :

(a) whether it was decided that one
Information Centre for Bihar will be started
in New Delhi ; and

(b) if so, the progress made in this
regard ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) and (b). Some State Govern
ments have set up Information Centres for
themselves in Delhi. Government of India is
not aware if Government of Bihar proposes to
open one such.

Plan for Development of Chhotanagpur

2242. KUMARI KAMLA KUMARI :
Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased
to state :

(a) whether the Planning Commission has
made any special plan for the development of
Chhotanagpur ;

(b) if so } the outlines thereof ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI MOHAN
DHARIA) : (a) to (c). The Planning Commi-
ssion has not made any special Plan for the
development of Chhotanagpur. Preparation
of district /regional plan is primarily the respon-
sibility of State Governments. A suggestion
was, however, made to the Bihar Government
that area plans should be prepared specially
for the backward areas of Chhotanagpur and
Santhal Parganas. The Planning Development
Authority for the Chhotanagpur Division and
the Santhal Parganas District specially set up
by the State Government has decided to
constitute a planning group for the purpose.

Norms of Creadon of Division and Sub-

Division in P & T Depar t ment

2243. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI :
Will the Minuter of COMMUNICATIONS

be pleased to state :

(a) whether there is any proposal under
consideration of Government to bifurcate the
existing Divisions and Sub-Divisions in the
Postal, Telegraph and Traffic, Telegraph
Engineering or RMS and create additional
Sub-Divisions and if so, the main features
therefor ;

(b) whether Government are revising the
norms of creation of sub-divisions and Divisions
in the Posts and Telegraphs Department
under Postal, RMS, Telegraph and Tele-
communication Engineering arm ;

(c) whether Government are considering
to create separate Telegraph Engineering
Division at Bhagalpur, Telegraph Engineering
Sub-Division at Motihari, Additional Tele-
phone Division under Telephone District,
Patna and creation of separate RMS Division
with Headquarters at Kiul or Bhagalpur ;
and

(d) if so, the period by which the propo-
sals are expected to be finalised ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNI-
CATIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a)
Engineering Divisions/Sub-di visions and Tele-
graphs Traffic Divisions arc bifurcated and
Engineering Divisions/Sub-divisions and Tra-
ffic Divisions formed at new Headquarters if
and when work/load demands it. The norms for
forming new Engineering Divisions/Sub- Divi-
sions are (i) geographical continuity (ii) Com-
munity of interests and (iii) minimum workloads
prescribed for each, which depend upon the
assets to be maintained. The formation of
new Traffic Divisions depends on staff strength
in Telegraph Offices.

Postal and RMS Divisions and Sub-
Divisions arc bifurcated as and when necessary
on the basis of certain prescribed standards.

(b) The question of revising the standards
for Engineering Divisions/Sub-Divisions is
under consideration at present. This job has
been entrusted to S. I. U.

While the question relating to the revision
of norms for the postal Sub-division is under
consideration, there is no proposal for re*
examining the norms and currently in force
for the formation of Postal and RMS Divi-
sions.

(c) and (d). There are no proposals at
present to create a new separate Telegraph
Engineering Division at Bhagalpur and an

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226

additional Telephone Engineering Division
under Patna Telephone District. The question
of opening of a Telegraph Sub-Division at
Motihari is under consideration and is expec-
ted to be finalised within a month.

There is no proposal under consideration to
create a RMS Division at Kiul or Bhagalpur.

Bokaro Steel City and Jamshedpur
declared Industrial Towns

2244. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI :
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS
be pleased to state :

(a) whether Bokaro Steel City and
Jamshedpur have been declared Industrial
Towns for the purpose of construction of
quarters on priority basis ;

(b) whether Barauni-Begusarai area is
also under consideration of Government for
declaration as Industrial Towns ;

(d) in case reply to part (b) is in affir-
mative, the steps taken in the matter ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) to
(d). Information is being collected and will
be placed on the Table of the Sabha.

P. and T. Service Unions Demands

2245. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI s
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS
be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Service Unions in the
Posts and Telegraphs Department have
demanded for rationalisation of duties and
cadres in the Telecommunication Wing of the
Posts and Telegraphs Department ;

(b) whether any meeting has taken place
between Government and the Service Union
on this subject and if so, what is the outcome
and progress in this regard ; and

(c) what would be the time limit by
which the Posts and Telegraphs Board would
fiudlise discussion and decision on rationali-
sation scheme of the service Unions ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) Yes
Sir.

(b) and (c). Yes Sir. The case is under
active consideration and is likely to be fina-
lised soon.

Expansion of Patna Auto Telephone
Exchange

2246. SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI:
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS
be pleased to state :

(a) whether project and detailed estimate
for expansion of capacity of Patna Auto Tele-
phone Exchanges have been sanctioned, but
the work is not being executed since the
equipment has not been allotted to Patna
Telephone District against the project sanc-
tioned ;

(b) whether there are subscribers in the
waiting list at Patna and Telephone connec-
tions are not being provided due to non-avail-
ability of telephone capacity to meet the
demands ;

(c) whether the District Manager, Tele-
phones, Patna has requested for early allot-
ment of Telephorfe equipment in order to
meet the demands, but his request has not so
far been acceded to ; and

(d) in case replies to (a) to (c) are in
affirmative, the reason therefor and the diffi-
culty of Government in allotting equipments
during 1972-73 and whether Government
propose to meet the demand in the near
future and if so, when ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a) A
project Estimate for the crossbar exchange to
serve the area of the existing Patna Main
exchange has been sanctioned. However, the
detailed estimate has not yet been sanctioned
for this work.

(b) As on 30.6.72 there were only 77
non-OYT subscribers in the waiting list at
Patna. Adequate telephone capacity exists
for meeting this demand.

(c) The District Manager, Telephones,
Patna has sent some proposals for allotment
of equipment and his request U being consi-
dered for allotment in 1973-74 manufacturing
programme of M/s. Indian Telephone
Industries.

(d) The 1972-73 allotments were made
to meet the anticipated demand as on 31.3.72
and these have been already taken up for
manufacture by Indian Telephones Industries.
Adequate capacity was available in Patna to
meet the demands anticipated on 31.3.72 and
hence no allotment was made to Patna in
1972-73. The demands arising in the near

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future may be met by the allotments to be*
made in 1973-74 manufacturing programme
of Indian Telephones Industries. With the
present limited and inadequate availability of
equipment, a waiting period of 2-3 years
is unavoidable.

Raids by G.B.I. on Senior Police Officer's
House in Jaipur

2247. SHRI M. M. JOSEPH : Will the
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state :

(a) whether the houses of some senior
police officers were raided in Jaipur by a
special team of the Central Bureau of Investi-
gation from New Delhi on 21st July, 1972 ;

(b) if so, the outcome thereof ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSON-
NEL (SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) :
(a) to (c). During the investigation of
cases registered by the Central Bureau of
Investigation against two police officers of
Rajasthan in respect of allegations of bribery
and acquisition of disproportionate assets,
their residences in Jaipur were searched on
21st July, 1972. Certain documents were
seized as a result of the searches. The matter
is still under investigation.

Resentment shown by India about
Nuclear Grouping with Israel

2248. SHRI M. M. JOSEPH :

SHRI SAMAR GUHA :

Will the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY
be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have studied
the report by the United Nations associations
of United States and the Soviet Union,
signed in Washington on 19th July, 1972 and
allegations regarding India's resentment on
nuclear grouping with Israel ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of the Indian Gov-
ernment thereto ?

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER
OF* ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA
GANDHI) s (a) The report, which is not of

an official body has alleged that 8 non- weapon
States, among them India and Israel, possess
the fissionable material and technology needed
to manufacture nuclear weapons if they decide
to do so.

(b) Government of India’s policy remains,
as before, to use nucler energy only for peace*
full purposes.

Full-time Inspector under Working
Journalists Act

2249. SHRI M. M. JOSEPH : Will the
Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD-
CASTING be pleased to state :

(a) whether Delhi Union of Journalists on
20th July, 1972 demanded the appointment
of a full-time Inspector under the Working
Journalists Act so that the irregularities being
committed by several newspapers in the
capital can be put to an end ; and

(b) if so, the main features thereof and
the reaction of Government thereto ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DIIARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) and (b). According to in-

formation obtainrd from the Department of
Labour and Employment, the Union in its letter
dated 28.7.72 represented that in Delhi there
were 40 small, medium and big newspaper
establishments but no wholetime Inspector had
been appointed to enforce the provisions of
the Working Journalists (Conditions of Service)
and Misc provisions. Act, 1955, and of the re-
commendations of the Wage Boards, as accepted
by the Government of India for working
journalists and non-working journalists work-
ing in such establishment. The demand of
the Union is under consideration by the Delhi
Administration.

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Transfer of Postal Staff in Balasore Flood
and Cyclone effected areas

2251. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MOHA-
PATRA : Will the Minister of COMMUNI-
CATIONS be pleased to state :

(a) whether there have been transfers of
Postal staff in Balasore flood and cyclone
affected areas although Government policy is
not to transfer employees at such period ;
and

(b) if so, the number of persons transfer-
red ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI FI. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a)
Ttansfers of Postal staff in Balasore Postal
Dn. have been made in May 1972 in the
normal course in the interest of service or at
their own requests.

(b) In all, 38 officials weie transferred.
Out of these 9 were transferred at their own
requests, 7 wcie transferred at the same
station and 22 were transferred in the interest
of service to other stations within the same
division.

Convention of Freedom Fighters in Delhi

2252. SHRI N K. S\NGHI :

SHRI JHARKHANDE RAI :

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS
be pleased to state :

(a) whether the freedom fighters at a
Convention held lecently in Delhi have
demanded the creation of a uniform pension
scheme for them and for grant of lands and
loans for construction of houses ; and

(b) if so, whether these requests have
been considered by Government and if so, the
decision taken in this regard ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) and (b). Government

have seen the press report dated 23rd July,
1972 about the convention of freedom fighters
published in the Times of India of 24th July,
1972 mentioning these points.

Government of India have already decided
to implement a scheme of grant of pensions to
freedom fighters with effect from 15th August,
1972. As regards loans and lands for construc-
tion of houses, it is for the State Governments
and Union Territory Administrations to
consider these recommendations.

Industrial Growth

2253. SHRI N. K. SANGHI :

SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY:

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DE-
VELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether growth of industrial produc-
tion envisaged in the Fourth Plan could be
achieved during 1971 and the first half of 1972

(b) if not, the rate of growth actually
achieved during the above period and how
much is the shortfall ; and

(c) the causes for the failure to achieve
the target and the steps that are proposed to
lift the industrial growth from its stagnation ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) No, Sir.

(b) As against the growth rate of 8 to
10% per annum envisaged in the Fourth Plan,
the actual rate of growth in industrial pro-
duction, during 1971, was 3%.

The index of industrial production for
first half of 1972 is not yet available.

(c) Of the several factors responsible for
inadequate industrial growth, the main ones
are shortage of certain categories of steel and
other raw materials, shortage of power and
lack of infrastructural facilities in certain area
and low labour productivity. Efforts are being
made to deal with these problems.

Use of Radiation Technology for Preserva-
tion of Food

2255. SHRI RAJ DEO SINGH :

SHRI SAMAR GUHA :

Will the Ministei of ATOMIC ENERGY
be pleased to state :

(a) whether researches conducted by the

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Atomic Energy Commission had raised the
possibility of a large-scale use of radiation for
the preservation of food ; and

(b) if so, the targetted period or date of
first experiment ?

THF PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA
GANDHI) : (a) and (b). Feasibility studies
have been completed on radiation technologies
relating to sprout inhibition and pre vention of
spoilage in stored potatoes and onions,
disinfestation for insect control and preven-
tion of losses in stored wheat, and preservation
of certain sea foods. The Department of
Atomic Energy envisages establishment in a
phased manner of pilot-scale irradiation
facilities for these processes from 1973 on-
wards. Implementation of this programme is
awaiting clearance from the Ministry of Health
to whom an application has already been
made.

Memoranda Given by opposition Parties
of Haryana Against the Chief Minister

2256. SHRI ISHWAR CHAUDHRY :
Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased to
refer to the reply given to Starred Question
No. 378 on the 12th April, 1972 regarding the
charges against the Chief Minister of Haryana
and state :

(a) whether the Memoranda have since
been examined ; and

(b) if so, the action proposed to be
taken in the matter ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and
(b). The Memoranda submitted to the
President on the 27th October, 1971 and the
24th February 1972, containing certain
allegations against Shri Bansi Lai Chief Minis-
ter of Haryana and others, are still under exa-
mination.

Export of Thorium Compounds

2257. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP
SINGH : Will the Minister of ATOMIC
ENERGY be pleased to state :

(a) the total amount of Thorium and

Thorium compounds exported in the last three
years ;

(b) the terms of export ; and

Tears

Quantity

Value

(in Kilograms)

(in Rupees)

1969-70

37,263

9,78,451

1970-71

35,832

9,83,9G8

1971-72

12,400

3,90,519

(b) The terms of export differ from
country to country. Payment terms range from
payment against documents to 180 days*
credit.

(c) The exports were made to the Arab
Republic of Egypt, the Fedeial Republic of
Germany, Hong Kong, Iran, Japan, South
Vietnam, Sri Lanka and the United King-
dom.

Benefits of Satellite Communications to
the common man

2258. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP
SINGH ; Will the PRIME MINISTER be
pleased to state whether, to bring the benefits
of future satellite communications to the
common man development work has started
on the following items :

(i) cheap solid State community Tele-
vision receivers for the rural areas ;

(ii) practical inexpensive antennas for the
same ; and

(iii) front-end converters for direction
reception ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
K. C. PANT) ; (i) The Electronic Systems
Division (ESD) of the Indian Space Research
Organisation (ISRO) at Ahmedabad has
developed Solid state TV receivers which will
be used for direct reception of TV program-
mes from the ATSF geo-stationary Communi-

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cation Satellite expected to be located over
the Indian Ocean in mid-1975. Parallel
developmental activity on this aspect is being
carried out at Electronics Corporation of
India Ltd., (ECIL) Hyderabad a wholly
Government owned Public Sector Undertaking
under the Department of Atomic Energy.
The sets to be used in Indian rural areas need
to be rugged, with minimal maintenance and
power requirements. These sets will be made
by EC1I. These sets will need special
chickenmesh antennas and front-end converters
to receive the extremely week signals from
the satellite and show these on the TV

(ii) The chicken-mesh antennas needed
for this have been developed by the Experi-
mental Satellite Communication Earth station
(ESCES), another Division of (ISRO), at
Ahmedabad.

(iii) The ESD has also developed the
front-end converter required for direct
reception. This is under final test.

Fabrication of Heavy Equipment for
Atomic Power Plant at Narora

2259. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP
SINGH : Will the Minister of ATOMIC
ENERGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Atomic Energy Depart-
ment proposes to fabricate, on site, the heavy
equipment required for the atomic plant at
Narora ; or these are to be transported to the
site ; and

(b) whether the strengthening and widen-
ing of the necessary bridges and culverts and
has started so that there may not be any
bottlenecks in the transport of heavy equip-
ment to Narora ?

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA
GANDHI) : (a) It is proposed that certain
pieces of equipment will be partially fabrica-
ted in shops and then finally completed at
site. Certain equipment like the turbine
generator will be fabricated at manufacturers*
workshops and then moved to site.

(b) Strengthening and widening of
bridges and culverts will be taken up at the
appropriate time.

Marine Propulsion Reactor

2260. SHRI VISHWANATH PRATAP
SINGH : Will the Minister of ATMOMIC
ENERGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether a Marine Propulsion Reactor
has been designed ; and

(b) if so, the main features thereof ?

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER
OF SPACE ( SHRIMATI INDIRA
GANDHI) : (a) and (b). A marine propul-
sion reactor has not been designed. However,
a project report has been prepared outlining
the development work involved in nuclear
propulsion for marine application.

Report of the Science Plan Committee
on National Science Policy

2261. SHRIMATI SAVITRI SHYAM :

DR. RANEN SEN :

Will the Ministei of SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether attention of the Government
has been drawn to a news-item in the Indian
Express dated the 24th July, 1972 that the
Science Plan Committee set up by the Govern-
ment has submitted its report to the Govern-
ment ; if so, the recommendations made by
the Committee ;

(b) the time Government will take to
implement those recommendations ; and

(c) the estimated expenditure to be in-
curred on the plan and the extent to which
the output in the country will be increased ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA-
NIAM) : (a) and (b). The Government has
seen the news-item in the Indian Express
dated the 24th July, 1972 under the caption
“SCIENCE PLAN GETS FINAL
TOUCHES**. The National Committee on
Science and Technology is currently engaged
in the formulation of a Science and Techno-
logy Plan. To cover the various sectors of
S & T, the NCST has constituted 22 Panels.
The Science and Technology Plan will be
based on a detailed assessment of the existing
knowledge and competence in each of the
above sectors and the potential for develop-

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mcnt with reference to our socio-economic
needs. The draft of the Plan is expected to
be ready by the end of April, 1973.

Inadequate Attention being Paid by In-
dustrial Units in the Private Sector to
Research and Development

2262. SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY:
Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether well-organised industrial units
in the private sector pay very little attention
to the problem of research and development ;
and

(b) if so, whether Government have taken
any steps to make the industry research
conscious ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA-
NlAM) : (a) Generally, industrial units in
private sector have made inadequate invest-
ment in research and development.

(b) A Committee under the Chairmanship
of Dr. Y. Nayudamma, Director-General,
CSIR, has been set up to go into the question
of difficulties experienced by the private
industrial firms in the execution and com-
mercialisation of Research and Development.
The recommendations of the Committee are
awaited.

Financial Assistance to Scientific Research
Institute Operating in Private Sector

2263. SHRI Y. ESWARA REDDY s
Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) how many scientific research Institutes
Are now operating in the private sector ;

(b) whether Government are giving finan-
cial assistance to these Institutes, if so, the
mode of assistance given to them ; and

(c) whether Government have taken care
to see that these Institutes are properly
administered and the scientific programmes
undertaken by them are effectively imple-
mented ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA-

NIAM) : (a) There are 17 private research
institutions.

(b) The Government is giving substantial
grants-in-aid to the Institutes for recurring as
well as non-recurring expenditure.

(c) These institutes are registered under
the registration of Societies Act and are
administered by a Governing Council on
which representative of the Ministry or
Government departments who piovide funds
are represented. The plan programme of
these institutes is generally scrutinised by the
Ministry or departments concerned and also
by Planning Commission. A watch is also
kept on the implementation of the Plan
Scheme both by concerned departments and
Planning Commission.

Film and TV Institute Scholarships

2264. SHRI P. A. SAMINATHAN :
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING be pleased to state :

(a) the State* wise break-up of 17 scholar-
ships awarded during 1971-72 by the Film
and Television Institute of India ; and

(b) the salient features of scholarships
awarded by different State Governments and
the Union Territories to the students of the
Institute ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) The State-wise break-up is as

follows :

Andhra Pradesh . . 1

Bihar . . 2

Jammu & Kashmir . . 1

Maharashtra . . 5

Mysore . . 2

Orissa . . 1

Punjab . . 1

Rajasthan . . 2

Uttar Pradesh . . 2

Total 17

(b) A statement is laid on the Table of
the House. [Placed in Library, See No. LT*
3397/72].

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F. F. G. Loan

2265. SHRI P. A. SAMINATHAN :
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING be pleased to state :

(a) the details of 43 applications received
by the Film Finance Corporation of India
during the period 1st April to 31st Decem-
ber, 1971 which are pending sanction of loans
to the extent of Rs. 93.74 lakhs ; and

(b) the details of seven applicants who
have been sanctioned Rs. 10.07 lakhs as loan ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) and (b). Two statements

containing the requisite information are
laid on the Table of the House. [ Placed in
Library. See No. LT-3398/72].

Views of State Governments etc. on Film
Censorship Enquiry Committee

2266. SHRI P. A. SAMINATHAN :
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING be pleased to state the
broad outlines of views of State Governments
and Union Teiritorics and different sections
of the film industry on the principal recom-
mendations of the Enquiry Committee on
film censorship ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : A statement is laid on the Table
of the House. [ Placed in Library. See
No. LT- 3 399/72].

Production of Essential Consumer Goods
in Private Sectors

2267. SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISH-
RA : Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state the
proportion of essential consumer goods in
the total production of private corporate sector
since the end of the Third Five Year Plan ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
Separate production figures for the private
corporate sector ' and unincorporated enter-
prises are not available. The statement giving
the production of 17 broad groups of essential
consumer goods listed under the Essential
Commodities Act, for the years 1966 to 1971

(calendar years) as per returns submitted by
units borne on the registers of the Directorate
General of Technical Development, and other
sponsoring authorities (like the Textile Commis-
sioner and the Director of Sugar and Vanas-
pati), is laid on the Table of the House.
[Placed in Library. See No. LT-3400/72]. *

Furnishing of Newspapers* Annual
Statements

2268. SHRI T. S. LAKSHMANAN : Will
the Minister of INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING be pleased to state :

(a) the number out of the 4961 defaulting
newspapers in respect of submission of Annaul
Statements, which are either non-existent or
irregular ; and

(b) consequences being faced by 803 news-
papers and periodicals which have been
removed from the record as publishers, on
their failure to fiynish Annual Statements for
two consecutive years ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) The information is being col-
lected and will be laid on the Table of the
House.

(b) A newspapei not borne on the records
of the Registrar of Newspapers for India is
not allocated any newsprint. It ceases to enjoy
postal concession and it is not entitled to be
considered by the Directorate of Advertising
and Visual Publicity for Central Government
advertisements.

Award of “Tamra Patras*’ and Reception
to Freedom Fighters on the Occasion of
25th Anniversary of Indian Independence

2269. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to
state :

(a) whether officers and men of Indian
National Army and the participants of the
1945-46 revolt in Royal Indian NAVY will
be given “Tamra Patras” and reception on
the occasion of 25th Anniversary of Indian
Independence ;

(b) whether families of Mankumar Bosu
Thakur and 27 other officers and men of
R. I. N. who were hanged or shot at Madras
in 1943 will be given the same honour ; and

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or shot by British Government and who sacri-
fied their lives in Azad Hind Fauj liberation
offensive ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
K. C. PANT) : (a) All freedom fighters who
have undergone imprisonment in the cause
of freedom of the country for a period of
not less than six months are eligible for Tamra
Patras which will be distributed at several
ceremonies to be held throughout the anniver-
sary year. The men of the Indian National
Army, and the Royal Indian Navy would also
be eligible if they fulfill the criteria laid down.

(b) and (c). The question of conferring
posthumous honour on freedom fighters/mar-
tyrs has not yet been considered.

Survey of Natural Resources

2270. SHRI P. M. MEHTA

SHRI PURUSHOTTAM-
KAKODKAR :

Will the Minister of SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether Planning Ministry is consider-
ing to have comprehensive survey of the coun-
try’s natural resources ;

(b) whether any scheme in regard to the
survey for natural resources has been prepared
and if so, when the survey will be conducted ;
and

(c) whether Government feel that the
degree of development of a country depends
on its capacity to make best possible use of
natural resources at its disposal ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMANIAM):

(a) and (b). The Planning Commission in Sep-
tember last year appointed 12 task forces to re-
commend measures for the intensification of
survey activities of various natural resources in
the country. These task forces were in the
following specific fields :

1. Coal & Lignite.

2. Atomic Energy Minerals.

3. Non-Ferrous Group of Minerals,

4. Ferrous Group of Minerals.

5. Industrial (Non-metallic) Minerals.

6. Marine Survey for Living Resources.

7. Marine Survey for Non-living resources.

8. Groundwater Resources.

9. Surface Water Resources.

10. Aerial Survey.

11. Land & Soil Resources.

12. Forest Resources.

The task forces have submitted their reports
recently and the Core Committee of the Plann-
ing Commission is considering how these reco-
mmendations could be implemented.

(c) The Government agrees with the Hon'-
ble Member that country’s development de-
pends to a great extent on best possible exploi-
tation of its natural resources. The setting up
of these task forces is one of the steps taken
up in this direction.

Prosecution of Public Servants and Private
Persons by C. B. I.

2271. SHRI P. M. MEHTA
SHRI P. GANGADEB :

Will the PRIME MINISTER be pleased
to state :

(a) whether the Central Bureau of Investi-
gation prosecuted 22 public servants and 39
private persons during May, 1972 ;

(b) whether Central Bureau of Investiga-
tion also secured convictions against some per-
sons and imposed fines on the persons or the
firms convicted ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) The
Central Bureau of Investigation prosecuted 23
public servants and 37 private persons during
May, 1972.

(b) and (c). 17 public servants (1 gazetted
officer and 16 non-gazetted officers) and 10 pri-
vate persons (including 1 firm) were convicted
by the courts and awarded sentences of vary-
ing terms of imprisonment/fine in May, 1972.
The convictions were in respect of allegations
relating to embezzlement, forgery, bribery,
misappropriation, cheating, criminal breach of
trust, misconduct and violation of the provi«
sioni of Essential Commodities Act, Opium
Act and Imports and Exports (Control) Act.

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Views expressed by U. S. experts on
Indian Nuclear reactors

2272. SHRI K. BALADHANDAYU-

THAM :

SHRI K. MALLANNA :

Will the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY
be pleased to state :

(a) whether Governments attention has
been drawn to the views expressed, recently,
by some U, S. experts that the Indian nuclear
reactors were not subjected to international
safeguard checks by the International Atomic
Energy Agency and hence pose a threat to
non-proliferation of nuclear weapons , and

(b) if so, the Governments reaction there-
to ?

(b) Government do not agree with the
views.

People’s Participation in Implementation
of Plan Programme

2273. SHRI K. BALADHANDAYU-
TIIAM : Will the Minister of PLANNING
be pleased to state

(a) whether hitherto the emphasis was on
people’s participation in implementation of
the plan programmes with little or no atten-
tion paid to the problem of peoples partici-
pation in the formulation of the plan itself ;
and

(b) if so, whether any steps are being
taken to ensure active participation of the
people in the formulation of plan policies ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) From the incep-
tion of planned development, the Planning
Commission has laid considerable stress on
popular understanding of and participation
in the implementation of various schemes and
programmes. Also in the past there have been
consultations with representative bodies prior
to formulation of Plan policies and program-
mes. Some further steps are being taken to
broaden this process of popular participation
in the formulation of Plant.

(b) The introduction of multi-level plan-
ning throughout the country, as proposed in
the document on the “Approach to the Fifth
Five Year Plan”, is expected to ensure in-
creased participation of people in the formu-
lation and implementation of Plan policies
and programmes. In the meantime, care has
been taken to associate expert, popular and
non-official opinion with the deliberations of
various Steering Groups, task forces and wor-
king groups which have been set up to help
formulate Fifth Plan policies and schemes.

Arrears of Telephone Bills

2274. SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA :

SHRIHUKUM CHANDKACH-
WAI :

Will the Minister of COMMUNICA-
TIONS be pleased to state the amount of
arrears of Telephone Bills, year- wise since
1970 ? •

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : The
amount of arrears of Telephone bills year-
wise since 1970 are as given below :

Arrears on

Amount ( Rs . in

lakhs)

(i)

1.4.70 in respect
of bills issued
upto 31.12.69

Rs. 612.43

(«i)

1.4.71 in respect
of bills issued
upto 31.12.70

Rs. 555.64

(iii)

1.4.72 in respect
of bills issued
upto 31.12.71

Rs. 605.59

Cheating In Weights and Measures

2275. SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY :
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH-
NOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether cheating in weights and
measures in the country is on the increase ;

(b) if so, the steps taken by Government
in eradicating such cheating ;

(c) whether weights and measures of the
Departments of Posts and Telegraph and Rail-
ways have ever been checked and stamped,
if not, the reasons therefor ; and

(d) the steps taken by Government to
have those checked and stamped ?

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THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :

(a) and (b). Government are aware that
cheating in weights and measures exists in
the country but there is no evidence to prove
that it is on the increase. Enforcement of
weights and measures being a State subject,
any case brought to the notice of Government
is taken up with the State Government con-
cerned for suitable remedial action.

(c) The weights and measures used by
Railways were being checked in a few States
but not those of the Posts and Telegraphs as
the transactions of the Posts and Telegraphs
were for a long time considered as non-com-
mercial transactions.

(d) The weight and measures used by
the Departments of Posts and Telegraphs will
be subjected to checking and stamping in the
near future, while those used by the Rail-
ways are already being checked in some
States and will be checked in the near future
in the remaining States.

Kidnapping of a Boy from his House in
Paharganj, New Delhi

227G. SHRI G. K. CHANDRAPPAN :
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be
pleased to state :

(a) whether one boy Rajendra, was
kidnapped on the 11th June, 1972 from his
house Paharganj, New Delhi ;

(b) whether the boy’s father lodged a
complaint alleging the hand of Paharganj
Police Sub-Inspector in this case ;

(d) if so, the steps taken so far to trace
the boy and to punish the culprit and prevent
further mischief ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) No report was recei-
ved at Police Station Paharganj, regarding
kidnapping of Rajendra on 11th June, 1972.
However, on 9th June, 1972 Shri Manohar
Lai Verma reported the alleged kidnapping
of his son Shri Rajendra Kumar at Police
Station Paharganj.

(b) No allegation of complicity of a Sub-
Inspector of Paharganj Police wa» made.

However, such an allegation was made against
a Sub -Inspector of Police Station, Hauz Qazi.

(d) The boy Shri Rajendra Kumar came
back to his house on 12th or 13th June, 1972
and is present there. No corroborative evi-
dence to support the allegation of kidnapping
of Shri Rajendra Kumar has come on Police
record so far.

Peoples living below Poverty Line

2277. SHRI G. K. CHANDRAPPAN 2
Will the Ministei of PLANNING be pleased
to state :

(a) whether 40 per cent of our popula-
tion is living below poverty line ; and

(b) if so, the special measures Govern-
ment intend to take for improving their
lot ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) According to availa-
ble estimates, private consumption of Rs. 20
per capita per mensem at 1960-61 prices would
be neeeded to assure a reasonable minimum
level of living. At present over 220 million
or 40 per cent of the people are estimated to
be living below this level.

(b) A major objective of the remaining
period of Fourth Plan and Fifth Plan would
be to improve the lot of the people below the
poverty line. This is sought to be achieved
by—

(i) Provision of employment opportuni-
ties on as large and wide a scale as possible ;

(ii) stabilisation of prices of essential goods
such as foodgrains, edible oils, standard cloth,
sugar and cooking fuels and other necessary
consumers articles ;

(iii) pursuance of a production, distribu-
tion and investment policy that will make for
increased availabilities of items of essential
consumption ;

(iv) determined restraint on inessential
consumption of the relatively well-to-do
classes ; and

(v) provision of social consumption in the
form of education, health, nutrition, drinking
water, housing, etc., at least up to a minimum
standard.

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Increase In Price of Trucks

2278. SHRI C. K. CHANDRAPPAN :
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH-
NOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether truck prices havg risen by
12 to 15 per cent in the last 14 months ;

(b) whether TELCO which controls as
much as 70 per cent of the total market for
trucks has revised the prices six times between
April, 1971 and April 15, 1972 ;

(d) if not, whether any steps are being
contemplated to control the prices of trucks ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :

(a) Yes, Sir.

(b) M/s. TELCO have revised the prices
of their vehicles six times between April, 1971
and 15th April, 1972.

(c) and (d). This is a disturbing trend.
Government are keeping a close watch over
the situation to |udge what action is neces-
sary.

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Prices of Industrial and Chemical Salts

2280. SHRI HARI KISHORE SINGH :
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH-
NOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether there is any proposal under
the consideration of Government to equalise
the price of industiial and Chemical salts
through out the country ;

(b) if not, the reasons therefor ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :

(a) The general question of equalisation of
prices of salt throughout the countiy is under
consideration of the Government.

(b) Does not feiise.

Export of Technical knowhow by H.M.T.
to U.K.

2281. SHRI P. K. DEO :

SHRI VEKARIA :

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Hindustan Machine
Tools, Limited has recently signed an agree-

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ment with some British Companies for export
of technical know-how ;

(b) if so, the main features thereof ;

(c) whether the attention of Government
in this regard has been drawn to a report in
the ‘Economic Times’ of the 10th July, 1972
captioned “H M.T. export know-how to
U.K.”; and

(d) the amount of foreign exchange
likely to be earned as a result of the agree-
ment ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
LOPMENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR
PRASAD) : (a), (b) and (d). Hindustan
Machine Tools have negotiated an agreement
with Messrs Wickman Machine and Tool
Sales Ltd., U.K., for licensing manufacture
of H.M.T. Minichucker. The terms of the
agreement being in the nathre of a commer-
cial transaction, it is considered inappiopriate
to disclose the details thereof.

Introduction of changes in the Method of
Planning

22 82. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : Will
the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to
state :

(a) whether Government propose to intro-
duce certain changes in the method of plan-
ning in the country ; and

(b) if so, the proposed changes ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) The main changes arc :

(i) greater emphasis on multi-level plan-
ing, regional planning, area/district
planning and a welcome decentralisa-
tion of the decision making process
within a borad central framework of
Plan formulation and control.

(li) building up a suitable information and
monitoring system for continuous
evaluation and reporting of pi ogress
for better implementation of projects
and programmes in physical and
financial terms.

fill) advance preparation of shelf of pro-
jects and their ex-ante appraisal ;

(iv) integration of Science and Technology
with the process of planning ; and

(v) people’s active and direct participa-
tions and involvement in Plan formu-
lation and implementation.

Proposal^ for Expansion and Reorganisa-
tion of Industrial Testing Research
Laboratory

2283. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : Will
the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to
slate :

(a) whether Government have received
any fresh proposal to expand and reorganise
the Industrial Testing Research Laboratory
from the Government of Kerala ;

(b) if so, the main features of the propo-
sal ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) to (c). No, Sir.
Recently no fresh proposal has been received.
On the earlier proposal of the Kerala Govern-
ment received in 1971, seeking UNDP assis-
tance to the extent of $ 450,000 (or Rs.32.75
lakhs approximately) for expansion of their
Industrial Testing and Research Laboratory,
Trivandrum, the Planning Commission advised
the State Government to reduce the quantum
of assistance from $450,000 (or Rs. 32.75
lakhs) to $100,000 (or Rs. 7 28 lakhs).

Construction of New Building for S. S.

I.S.I. at Trichur (Kerala)

2284. SHRI C. JANARDHANAN : Will
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO-
LOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether the proposed construction of
a new building for the Small Scale Indus-
tries Service Institute at Trichur in Kerala
has started ;

(b) if so, the approximate time by which
it is expected to be finished; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
LOPMENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR
PRASAD) : (a) and (b). The construction
of the building has not yet started.

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acquired for the purpose, went up in appeal
againt the amount of compensation granted
to him ; first to the sub-Judge of Trichur and
later to the High Court. The enhanced com-
pensation awarded by the High Court has
been paid to the owner. The C.P.W.D. have
prepared the plans which are now under
scrutiny. The work is likely to be taken up
shortly.

Earning of Foreign Exchange

2285. SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZAL-
PURKAR s Will the Minister of PLANNING
be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have selected
certain items for earning foreign exchange in
the remaining period of the current plan to
meet the foreign exchange needs ; and

(b) if so, what aie those ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) and (b). Besides,
improvement in earnings of foreign exchange
by Shipping and Tourism and traditional
expoit earning commodities, increases in
export earnings are mainly expected from
items like engineering goods, chemical and
allied Products, geins and jewellery, fish and
fish preparations, iron ore, handicrafts and
ready-made garments.

Appointment of Advisory Body of Experts
for Standardisation of equipment for fer-
tilizer units

2286. SHRI DHARAMRAO AFZAL-
PURKAR : Whl the Minister of INDUS-
TRIAL DEVELOPMEET AND SCIENCE
AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have appointed
any Advisory Body of Experts to suggest
standardisation of major items of equipment
required in the fertilizer units ; and

(b) if so, the consitution and terms of
icference thereof ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) and (b). In order to study and assess the
progiess of development of manufacture of
various types of Chemical Machinery in the
country and to suggest standardised capacities
for various types of chemical plants, Govern-
ment of India constituted in August, 1969 an

Expert Committee known as “Expert Commi-
ttee for Development of Chemical Machinery
Industries".

The terms of reference and constitution
of the Committee are as under : —

Terms of Reference :

(i) to determine and suggest standardised
capacity for various chemical plants,
wherever, possible ;

(ii) to estimate the total cost of equipment
and machinery comprising standard-
ised plants ;

(iii) to indicate the break-up of the requ-
ired equipment and machinery into
indigenous/imported categories ; and

(iv) to suggest which of the items of
equipment falling under the imported
category should be taken up for urgent
indigenous development.

Constitution :

1. Director General of Technical Deve-
lopment — Chairman.

2. Shri M. M. Vadi, S. I. A. (DGTD) —
Member and Alternate Chairman.

3. Dr. A. Seetharamiah, S.I.A. (DGTD)
— Member

4. Shri S. K. Sinha, Senior Industrial
Adviser (DGTD) — Member

5. Shri V. N. Kasturirangan, Ministry of
Petroleum and Chemicals — Member

6. Dr. R.K. Ghosh, F.G.I. Ltd., Member.
Shri H.H. Jethanandani, FCI Ltd., —
Alternate Member.

7. Dr. B.V. Bhoota, Chairman Chemical
Plant and Machinery Association of
India — Member.

8. Dr. M. D. Parekh, Managing Director
M/s National Rayon Company Ltd., —
Member.

9. Shri Ranvir M. Khatau, Director,
Associated Cement Companies Ltd. —
Member.

10. Shri J. P. Mukerjee, Chief Engineer,
M/s. Walchand Nagar Industiies —
Member.

11. Shri K. P. Aiyappan Nayar, Sales
Manager (Plants) FACT Engineering
and Design Organisation — Member.

12. Shri S. C. Banerjee, I. A. (DGTD) —
Member Secretary.

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Availability of Resources for making Ad-
justments in the Five year Plan to meet
the requirements

2287. SHRI S. C SAMANTA : Will the
Mj'nstcr of PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) the steps being taken by him to make
adjustments in the Five Year Plan so that it
niu Ij» the requirements of the people in
general ;

(b) by what time the planning from the
village and district level is likely to take
shape, and efforts being made by him to this
end ;

(d) if so, the sources from which these

resources will be made available ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DIIARIA) : (a) The Five Year
Plans are formulated after taking into account
the requirements of the people in general.
The question of making adjustments in the
Five Year Plan for this purpose does not,
therefore, arise. However, m addition to the
Plan programmes, some special employment
programmes have been recently introduced
to alleviate the prevailing condition of un-
employment in the country. They arc in
addition to Crash Scheme for Rural Employ-
ment which will benefit the unemployed and
underemployed in rural areas.

(b) No time limit has been laid down
for completion of the work relating to pre-
paration of integrated district plans by State
Governments. The Planning Commission has
issued guidelines to State Governments for
formulation of distnct plans and is rendering
all possible assistance with a view to expe-
diting preparation of the same. Planning at
village level is not contemplated.

(c) and (d) The question of enhancing
of financial targets and of finding additional
resources on that account, does v not arise,
since adjustments in the Five Year Plan refer-
red to in part (a) of the question are not
contemplated. The funds for the special
employment oriented schemes mentioned in

(a) above would be raised and made availa-
ble by the Centre, and the State Govern-
ments.

Pilot Plant Project for Conversion of
High-Sulphur Low-Ash Assam Coal to
Synthetic Petroleum

2288. SHRI S. G. SAMANTA : Will
the Minister of SCIENCE AND TECHNO-
LOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have sanctioned
any pilot plant project for conversion of
high-sulphur low-ash Assam coal into syn-
thetic petroleum ; and

(b) whether Indian Oil and Natural
Gas Commission have refused to collaborate
with the National Committee on Science
and Technology pilot plant project ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA-
NIAM) : (a) The GSIR have proposed the
setting up of the pilot plant at the Central
Fuel Research Institute at Jealgora to test
the feasibility of coal to oil conversion techno-
logy on which they have already been con-
ducting researches for sometime.

(b) No Sir. GSIR wish to work closely
in this project with the User Ministiy which
would eventually have to exploit this techno-
logy. They have, therefore, referred to the
Ministry of Pc troleum and Chemicals to parti-
cipate financially in the setting up of the Pilot
Plant. That Ministry arc considering the
proposal. This matter is still at the level of
exchanges between CSIR and the Ministry of
Petroleum and Chemicals and no final deci-
sion has been taken.

Nuclear Agro-Induatrial Complex in U. P.

2289 SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : Will
the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be plea-
sed to state :

(a) whether Atomic Energy Commission
intends to establish a nuclear agro-industrial
Complex in Uttar Pradesh ;

(b) the results of ground water survey
conducted by the Atomic Energy Commission
in western Uttar Pradesh ; arid

(c) whether Atomic Energy Commission
has shelved the project to produce nuclear
power and dc-salinized water to feed propo-
sed Mithapur fcrtilizci plant ?

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF

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ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER
OF SPACE (SH RIM ATI INDIRA

GANDHI) : (a) to (c). Government ha*
decided to set up an atomic power station
at Narora in Western Uttar Pradesh. The
station will consist of two units of 235 MWe
each.

A working group appointed by the Ato-
mic Energy Commission to evaluate the con-
cept of nuclcar-powered agro-industrial com-
plexes has submitted its report. Among the
projects studied by the working group are
those relating to the eastablishment of such
complexes in the Gangetic plain as well as in
the Kutch-Saurashtra region. Further-
detailed studies on these projects are in pro-
gress.

In connection with the feasibility studies
relating to Western Uttar Pradesh, it has
been decided to investigate the availability
and scientific exploitation of undcrgiound
water from this area. This study has not yet
been completed.

Machinery for Satisfactory Planning and
Coordination of Plan Publicity

2290. SHRI S. C. SAMANTA : WU1 the
Minister of PLANNING be pleased to state :

(a) the machinery evolved for satisfactory
planning and coordination of Plan Pub-
licity ; and

(b) the publicity media aims of the 5th
Plan ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) Plan Publicity
Schemes are planned and implemented by the
media units of the Ministry of Information
and Broadcasting at the Centre and the Pub-
licity Departments in the States. There are a
few scheme which are part of the programmes
of other developmental Ministries such as
Health and Family Planning. They have the
benefit of the Planning Commission's advice
in the process of planning and coordinated
implementation.

(b) The publicity Schemes for the Fifth
Plan are being formulated by the mass
( ornmijnication media units of the Informa-
bon and Broadcasting Ministry at the Centre
and the publicity Departments in States.

Tald over of whole sale trade of consu-
mer Goode

2291. SHRI RAM PRAKASH :

SHRI N. K. SANGHI :

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether there is any proposal to take
over the wholesale trade in essential consu-
mer goods ; and

(b) if so, the advantages from such take-
over and the main features of the proposal ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) and (b). Government have under consi-
deration a scheme for maintaining price
stability and ensuring availability of essential
commodities at reasonable prices. This
scheme includes, inter-alia, recommendations
about the role of the public sector in the
wholesale trade in certain essential consumer
goods.

Setting up of Atomic Power Station in
the Western, Northern and Southern
Regions

2292. SHRI VEKARIA :

SHRI ARVIND NETAM :

Will the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY
be pleased to state :

(a) whether any site has been selected
by the Site Selection Committee for setting
up nuclear power station in Western, North-
ern and Southern regions ; and

(b) if so, their locations and when the
work is likely to be started ?

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATOIN
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA
GANDHI) : (a) and (b). The Site Selec-
tion Committee has so far made recommenda-
tions only in regard to the Northern Region.
The survey in regard to the Western and
Southern Regions is still in progress. The
Atomic Power Station in the Northern Region
will be located at Narora in Western Uttar
Pradesh. Preliminary work such as detailed

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investigations at the site and collection of
data for the design of the Power Station has
been taken up.

Change In the name of Mysore to
Karnataka

2293. SHRI B. V. NAIK: Will the
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to
state :

(a) whether any proposals have been
received from Government of Mysore to
change the name of State from Mysore to
Karnataka ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of Government in
this regard ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) and (b). A proposal to
this effect has been received only on the 11th
August, 1972 and it is yet to be considered
by the Government.

Survey of Radioactive Minerals

2294. SHRI B V. NAIK : Will the
Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be pleased
to state :

(a) whether a survey of radioactive
minerals was undertaken all along the coastal
regions of India ;

(b) if so, the findings of this survey ; and

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI) :
(a) Yes, Sir. Surveys have been conducted
by the Atomic Minerals Division of the
Department of Atomic Energy for radioactive
minerals along the Indian Sea Board as a
part of a continuing programme of investiga-
tions for such minerals.

(b) Deposits of monazite associated with
other constituent minerals of beach sands
such as ilmenite, rutile, zircon sillimanite,
kyanite, etc. have been located in noteworthy
concentrations in certain parts of the coastal
tract.

Bhagavantam Committee’s Report on
Survey of India

2295. DR. RANEN SEN: Will the
Minister of SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY
be pleased to state :

(a) whether Bhagavantam Committee has
submitted its report on Survey of India, if so,
the salient features of the report ; and

(b) whether any decisions have been taken
by the Government on the report ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMANI-
AM) i (a) and (b). Yes, Sir. A summary of
the recommendations is laid on the Table of the
House. [ Placed in Library. See No. LT-
3401/72]. The Survey of India has been
transferred from the Ministry of Education
to the Department of Science and Technology
with effect from 3.5.71 and is now functioning
as a scientific adjust to that Department like
the Botanical Survey of India and the
Zoological Survey of India. The recommen-
dations in regard to details of organisation
are under the consideration of Government.

Books etc. produced by Publication
Division

2296. SHRI J. MATHA GOWDER :
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING be pleased to state :

(a) the names and number of books,
pamphlets and publicity literature, produced
by the Publications Division of the Ministry
in regional languages of the country during
the past three years ; and

(b) the names and number of books,
pamphlets and publicity literature produced
by the Publications Division of the Ministry
in English and Hindi during the past three
years ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) and (b). A statement giving
the requisite information is laid on the Table
of the House. [Placed in Library . See No. LT-
3402/72]

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Allocttloa on Foreign Exchange to email,
medlnm and big newspapers

2297. SHRI J. MATHA GOWDER :
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING be pleased to state the
reasons for the allocation of foreign exchange
during 1970-71 to small newspapers, medium
newspapers and big newspapers for the purpose
of importing printing and composing machi-
nery, not being in accordance with the terms of
the assurances given in Parliament ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : The policy of Government in regard
to the grant of licences to newspapers for the
import of printing, composing and allied
machinery is to earmark 50 per cent of the
total available foreign exchange allocation for
small newspapers (circulation below 15,000),
35% for medium newspapers (circulation betw-
een 15,000 and 50,000) and 15% for big news-
papers (circulation above 50,000) and that
too for inescapable needs of their plant and
machinery.

The requirements of all small newspapers
which had applied for import of printing
machinery during 1970-71, involving 27% of
the total foreign exchange ceiling, were met
subject to availability of credit from the
countries from which the machinery was
sought to be imported by the applicants. At
the end of the year, as in the past, the foreign
exchange allocation still available with
Government was first utilised to meet the
demands of medium newspapers and only
thereafter the applications from big news-
papers were considered and licences granted
for their essential needs. There is nothing
inconsistent in this procedure with any assu-
rance given to Parliament.

Quota for Imported Newsprint to News-
papers and Periodicals

2298. SHRI J. MATHA GOWDER : Will
the MINISTER of INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING be pleased to state :

(a) the basic entitlement of newspapers
and periodicals of imported newsprint ;

(b) whether the different categories of
newspapers and periodicals received during
1971-72 additional quota of imported news-
print in accordance with the percentage fixed
by the Department for such an increase ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRJ DHARAM BIR
SINHAJ : (a) The basic entitlement of news-
print, imported and indigenous, is determined
in terms of Remark V to the Newsprint Allo-
cation Policy for the licensing period 1972-73
a copy of which was laid on the Table of the
Lok Sabha on 1 1, 4. 1972. This entitlement
is for allocation as under: —

Entitlement range

Imported Indigenous

DAILIES

(i) less than 400 tonnes

100%

Nil

(ii) 400 tonnes or above
but less than 1000
tonnes.

90%

10%

(iii)1000 tonnes or above
but less than 2000

tonnes.

82.5%

17.5%

(iv)2000 tonnes and
above

75%

25%

PERIODICALS (Strandard newsprint)

(i) less than 100 tonnes

100%

Nil

(ii) over 100 tonnes

100%

Nil

PERIODICALS (Glazed Newsprint)

All entitlement

100%

Nil

(b) Newspapers and

periodicals

were

allowed additional quota towards permissible
increases in terms of the Newsprint Allocation
Policy for 1971-72, on application, as requird
under Remark VII of the Annexure I to the
Public Notice

(c) Only newspapers and periodicals
which did not apply for such increases were
not allowed any additional quota as admissi-
ble under the Policy.

Per capita Income in M. P.

2299. SHRI RANABAHADUR SINGH :
Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased
tp state :

(a) the per capita income in Madhya
Pradesh during the last three years, year- wise,
as oompared to other States in the country ;

(b) the per capita income of various
income groups of people in the States as
compared to respective groups in Madhya
pradesh ; and

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increase the income of backward areas in
Madhya Pradesh ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) The comparable esti-
mates of per capita income of various States
for the last three years, e g. 1969-70,
1970-71 and 1971-72 are not yet available.
The estimates of per capita State income
have, however, been made for the year

1969- 70 by the State Statistical Bureaux in all
States except Bihar, Jammu and Kashmir,
Kerala, Orissa, Manipur, and Tripura. For

1970- 71, similar estimates have been worked

out by the State Statistical Bureaux of a few
States only, viz. Gujarat, Madhya Pradesh,
Mysore, Tamil Nadu and West Bengal.
Owing to difference in concepts, methodology
source of material and the base years, etc.
these estimates are not comparable among the
States. No estimates are yet available for the
year 1971-72. *

(b) Presently, the per capita income is
being worked for each State as a whole and
not separately for various income groups of
people and, therefore, the information Is not
available.

(c) The development of backward areas
is primarily the function of the concerned
States. However, the steps which the Govern-
ment of India has taken so far for removing
the relative backwardness of the areas in
Madhya Pradesh are set out in the Statement
laid on the Table of the House. [Placed in
Library . See No. LT. 3403/72].

Medium Scale Industries in M. P.

2300. SHRI RANABAHADUR SINGH :
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH-
NOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) the number of medium scale industries
alongwith their locations in Madhya Pradesh
and the items manufactured by them ;

(b) the total investment of these indus-
tries in the State and the number of persons
employed by them during last three years ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD)
{a) and (b), There is no separate classifica-
tion of Industries into large and medium
scale. Therefore, separate statistics are not
maintained in respect of medium scale indus-
tries.

Appointment of Qualified People to
Special Jobs in Various Fields of Admi-
nistration

2301. SHRI FATESINGH RAO GAEK-
WADi Will the PRIME MINISTER be
pleased to state :

(a) whether it has been decided to insist,
in feature, on appointment of qualified people
to Special jobs in various fields of adminis-
tration and not to endorse the appointment
of departmental candidates as a matter of
routine ; and

(b) if so, the main points of the decision ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) and (b).
Appointments to posts under the Government
of India are made in accordance with the
rules of recruitment made by the President
under the proviso to article 309 of the Cons-
titution. The .rules specify inter alia the
methods of recruitment as well as the quali-
fications/experience, required for appoint-
ment. The method of recruitment for
a post i. e . whether the post should
be filled entirely by direct recruitment, or
partly by direct recruitment and partly by
promotion from departmental employees, or
entirely by promotion from such employees
is decided taking into account the nature of
duties and responsibilities attached to the post
as well as its job requirements. Arrangements,
therefore, already exist for making appoint-
ments of qualified persons according to require-
ments of the posts.

Increase In Cost of Coal Gasification
Plant at Hyderabad

2302. SHRI FATESINGH RAO GAE-
KWAD : Will the Minister of SCIENCE
AND TFCHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether the cost of the coal gasifica^-
tion plant at Hyderabad has escalated by
stages from R*. 21 lacs to Rs. 169 lacs, if so,
the reasons therefor ;

(b) the total amount of infructuous ex-
penditure together with the amount of further
commitments for payment, if any ; and

(c) whether a comprehensive investigation
has been made into the case of pinpoint res-
ponsibility, and if not, the reasons therefor ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA-

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NIAM) : (a) The amount of Rs. 21.00 lakhs
approved by the Governing Body of the Coun-
cil of Scientific and Industrial Research
(CSIR) in 1962 were based on preliminary
estimates obtained in 1956. However, on the
basis of quotations received Irom several firms
in 1964, an amount of Rs. 45.50 lakhs was
actually sanctioned by the Governing Body.
The escalation should be taken from Rs. 45.50
lakhs. This was mostly due to devaluation
and financing charges under the French credit.
According to present calculations, the total
capital cost of the plant is estimated at
Rs. 96.38 lakhs.

(b) The expenditure of Rs. 35.12 lakhs
already incurred and committed expenditure
of Rs. 33.38 lakhs is not infructuous. The
importance of gasification of coals as an
energy source has to be appreciated in the
context of rising prices of imported crude.
The plant is intended to develop the techno-
logy and know-how on coal gasification of
low grade coals in Godavri and Wardha
valleys. The project continues to be of natio-
nal importance.

Selection of IAS Officers in Higher Posts

2303. SHRI HARI SINGH : Will the
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state :

(a) whether the existing procedure of
selection of Indian Administrative Service
Officers to higher posts is not satisfactory ;
and

(b) if so, the new procedure proposed to
be introduced for the selection ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) (a). No,
Sir.

(b) Does not arise.

C. B. I. Investigations Abroad

2301. SHRI HARI SINGH * Will the
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state the
number and nature of crimes which
were investigated abroad by the Central
bureau of Investigation in 1970 and 1971 ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE

ministry of home affairs and

in THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) s In 1970

and 1971 there were 54 instances in which
investigation had to be made abroad in cases
investigated by the Central Bureau of Investi-
gation.

In 6 of these cases, officers of the Central
Bureau of Investigation were sent abroad to
make the investigation ; in 41 cases, investi-
gations were got done through the Interpol
and in 7 cases they were got done through
the Ministry of External Affairs.

These cases related to violations of statu-
tory provisions relating to imports and exports
and foreign exchange, misconduct, misappro-
priation, fraud and forgery.

G. B. I. Investigation

2305. SHRI HARI SINGH : Will the
Minisier of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to
state ;

(a) the number, of cases where Central
Bureau of Investigation has sought help from
International Criminal Police Organisation,
Paris during the period of 1970 and 1971 ;
and

(b) the nature of cases for which G. B.
I. sought assistance from International
Criminal Police Organisation, Paris ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F.
H. MOHSIN) : (a) 41.

(b) The following types of cases were
referred to the International Police Organi-
sation, Paris by the C. B. I. : —

(i) Violations of the Import and Export
Control Act and Foreign Exchange
Regulations Act.

(ii) Misconduct in securing appointments
on the basis of false certificates pur-
porting to have been issued by
institutions abroad.

(iii) Misappropriation, fraud and forgery
committed in India in which some of
the relevant witnesses had gone abroad
when the cases were taken up for
investigation.

(iv) Pilferage of contents of postal articles
in international transit.

(v) Fraudulent removal of antiques from
India to foreign countries.

(vi) Misconduct (forgery, misappropriation
etc.) of some Indian officials while
they were posted abroad.

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Supersession in Senior I. A* S. Officers

2306. SHRI HARI SINGH : Will the
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state the
number of Indian Administrative Service
Officers who have been superseded by Junior
Indian Administrative Service Officers, from
January, 1971 to 5th July, 1972, in all the
Departments of Government of India ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : Appoint-
ments to posts under the Central Government
are made, on tenure basis, generally from
among members of the All India Services
and the Central Services, having regard to
the merits, claims and availability of the
officeis in the field of choice.

During the period from the 1st January.
1971, to the 31st, July 1972 53 meinbersof the
Indian Administrative Service held lower
posts under the Central Government, while
officers junior to them were appointed to
higher posts under the Central Government.

Provision in budget for bringing out
monthly Digests in several languages

2307. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR :
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING be pleased to state :

(a) whether budget of Information and
Broadcasting Ministry two years back provided
for a project to bring out monthly Digests in
several languages ; and

(b) if so, the reasons for not implementing
this project ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA): (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) It is now being examined.

Guidelines for establishment of Joint
Sector

2308. SHRI MADHURYYA HALDAR :
Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHN-
OLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have prepared
two papers providing guidelines for the
establishment of Joint Sector at the Central
and State levels ; and

(b) if so, the salient points of the guide-
lines ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD)
(a) and (b). The Industrial Licensing Policy
of the Government annouuced in February,
1970 envisages the establishment of Joint
Sector through the conversion into equity of
loans advanced by Public Financial Insti-
tutions to private companies. Detailed guide-
lines in this regard have been issued by the
Department of Banking and copies of the
same have already been laid on the Table of
the House.

Instructions have been issued that where
State Industrial Development Corporations
wish to associate other parties in the projects
licensed to them, the Corporations themselves
should hold not less than 26% of the equity
and no other party should hold more than
25%.

Center al Publicity Advisory Committee

2309. SHRI MADHURYYA IIALDAR :
Will the Minister of INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING be pleased to state :

(a) the names of non-official members of
the Central Publicity Advisory Committee
and their qualifications ;

(b) whether a list of attendance of these
non-official members aL the last three meetings
of the Advisory Committee will be placed on
Table of the House ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) (a) In April, 1972 a Publicity
Advisory Group was constituted. The names
of the non-official members of this Group
are :

1. Shri M. Chalapathi Rau Editor,
National Herald, New Delhi.

2. Shri Miinal Sen, Film Director,
Calcutta.

3. Dr. V. K. Narayana Menon, Executive
Director, National Centre for Per-
forming Arts, Bombay.

4. Shri Dewan Berindernath, Special

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Correspondent, Press Asia International
New Delhi.

5. Dr. Mohammad Ayoob, Associate
Professor, Indian School of Inter-
national Studies, New Delhi

6- Shri S. Sukhdev, Film Director,
Bombay.

All of them arc eminent persons in their
respective fields,

(b) Only 2 meetings have so far taken
place and the attendance of the non-official
members was as follows : —

First meeting held on 20th April, 1972 — 5
Second meeting held on 14th June, 1972 — 2

(c) The functions of the Publicity Advi-
sory Group are to advise the Ministry of
Information and Broadcasting on publicity
matters in general, review the work done and
the programmes put out by the media organi-
sations under the Ministry, consider how they
have reacted on public opinion and suggest
what modifications are necessary and what
programmes should be planned for the
future.

The deliberations of the group at the
meetings have been helpful to the media units
in formulating their publicity programmes.

Short-fall in Industrial Production

2310. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY :

SIIRI VAYALAR RAVI :

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state the
target of and short-fall in the industrial
production during the last three years, indus-
trywise and public and private scctorwisc ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
LOPMENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR
PRASAD) : Statement I showing targets and
production figures of industries in Public
Sector is laid on the Table of the House.
[Placed in Library . See No. LT— 3404/72]

Statement II containing index of industrial
production for both public and private sectors
in respect of selected industries is laid on the
Table of the House. [Placed in Library See No.
LT— 3404/72]

Expenditure on the Surrender of Dacoit*
and grant made to Chambal Ghati Shanti
Peace Mission

2311. SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY :

SHRI K. MALLANNA :

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be
pleased to state :

(a) the total expenditure incurred on the
surrender of dacoits in Madhya Pradesh,
Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan ;

(b) the total Grant provided to Chambal
Ghati Shanti Peace Mission, if any ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI F.
H. MOHSIN) : (a) The information is being
collected from the concerned State Govern-
ments and wiH be laid on the Table of the
House.

(b) Rs. one lakh have been given as out
right cash grant and Rs. 50,000 have been
spent for providing various facilities by the
Government of Madhya Pradesh.

(c) An integrated development scheme
for socioeconomic development of the area
and, for the rehabilitation of the dacoits is
being prepared by the Central Government
in consultation with the concerned State
Governments.

Check on Increase In prices of Cars

2312. SHRI P. GANGADEB s Will the
MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO-
LOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether according to the Supreme
Court Judgement on Car price issue the prices
of cars are to be" revised on January 1 and
July I every year ; and

(b) whether any steps have been taken
by Government to see that prices of cars do
not increase every six months, and if so, the
nature of steps taken ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) Yes, Sir.

(b) The prices of cars are dependent on
the prices of raw materials, mainly steel, and
of components purchased from ancillary

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units ; as well as on the wage bill, taxes etc.
Steps are taken to have a check on the cost
of the various items, however, they cannot be
controlled by Government action alone.
Further, Government have taken steps to
license a large number of units in the ancillary
Bector for the manufacture of components, so
that the car manufacturers can purchase
these components at economic prices which
will result from keen competition amongst a
large number of supplying units.

Unsatisfactory Delhi Postal Service

2213. SHRI R. S. PANDEY : Will the
Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be pleased
to state :

(a) whether numerous complaints arc
received about unsatisfactory postal service in
Delhi ;

(b) if so, the steps being taken to improve
the postal service in the capital to ensure
timely delivery ; and

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a)
A few complaints have been received regar-
ding delay in delivery of letters.

(b) and (c). Continuous efforts are being
made to improve the services ; measures have
been taken to

( i ) combat absenteeism amongst postmen
staff

(li) ensure punctual running of mail
motor service and

(iii) rationalise the beats of postmen.

Effect of Expansion of T. V. on Film
Industry

2314. SHRI R S. PANDEY : Will the
Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD-
CASTING be pleased to state :

(a) whether the introduction of Television
service has had any adverse effect on the film
industry in the country so far ;

(b) if so, the steps taken to safeguard
the interest of the film industry with the pro-
posed expansion of Television service ; and

(c) whether Government have consulted
representatives of the film industry in this
regard and if so, their views thereon ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND

BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) No, Sir.

(b) Does not arise.

(c) Yes, Sir The Government is unable
to ^grec to the view of the Film Federation of
India that the T. V. programmes in Delhi
have affected film shows.

Feasibility Report for setting up Indus-
tries In Laccadive, Minicoy and Amin-
dive Islands

2315. SHRI R. S. PANDEY s Will the
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT
AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be
pleased to state ;

(a) whether a feasibility study of starting
small scale industries in the Laccadive,
Minicoy and Amindive Islands was under-
taken by Geological Survey of India and
Council of Scientific and Industrial Research ;

(b) whether the study has since been
completed and if so, the findings thereof ; and

(c) the steps taken to encourage indus-
trialists to set up small industries there and
the incentives offered to them for the purpose ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SIIRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) to (c). Information is being collected
and will be laid on the Table of the House.

Emergency Plan for Machine Tools

2316. SHRI ARVIND NETAM : Will
the Minister of SCIENCE AND TECHNO-
LOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether the National Committee on
Science and Technology has prepared the
Emergency Plan for Machine Tools ; and

(b) if so, broad outlines thereof ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA-
MANIAM) : (a) Yes.

(b) The Emergency Plan is a task orien-
ted programme to develop those types of
machines which are presently being imported
and to generate necessary technological compe-
tence so as to achieve self-reliance within a
period of 3 to 5 years. The Hindustan Mac-
hine Tools Ltd. and the Central Machine
Tools Institute will be primarily involved in
developing these machine tools.

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Statehood for Pondicherry

2317. SHRI ARVIND NETAM : Will
the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased
to state :

(a) whether Pondicherry Chief Minister
has approached the Centre for full Statehood
for the Union territory ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of Central Govern-
ment thereto ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) No, Sir.

(b) Does not arise.

Increase in Production of Paper and
Paper Board

2318. SHRI ARVIND NETAM s Will
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO-
LOGY be pleased to state ;

(a) whether production of paper and
paper board in the country has increased
during this year as compared to the previous
years ; and

(bj if so, the percentage of increase ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) The Production of paper and paper
board during the year 1972 increased from
7,58,549 tonnes to 7,80,828 tonnes.

(b) The increase is about 3%

Non* Medical Insurance Policy Scheme
for Postal Staff

2319. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD
VERMA : Will the Minister of COMMUNI-
CATIONS be pleased to state :

(a) whether Posts and Telegraphs Depart-
ment is introducing in near future non-medi-
cal Insurance Policies Scheme for Postal
staff ; and

(b) if so, the time by which a final
decision will be taken and salier^ features of
the scheme ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) t (a)
and (b). Non- medical scheme of business has
been introduced in the Postal Life Insurance
with effect from the 1st of June, 1972. The
Scheme is applicable not only to the Postal

Staff but also to all Other Central and State
Government employees and the permanent
employees of the Local Bodies who are eligible
for PLf . Extra Departmental employees of the
P&T and all Female lives have, however,
been excluded from its purview.

The salient features of the scheme are
that an eligible person may be insured for a
sum not exceeding Rs. 3,500/-or 24 times his
monthly emoluments drawn (rounded off to
the next lower Rs. 100/-), whichever is lower,
without undergoing a medical examination.
His age next birthday at entry should not
exceed 28 years. Only Endowment Assurance
policies maturing at ages 35, 40, 45, 50, 55,
58 and 60 are issued under this scheme.

Indian postal Service Association’s Resolu-
tion to P&T Board

2320. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD
VERMA s Will^the Minister of COMMUNI-
CATIONS be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Indian Postal Service
Association has submitted a Resolution to the
Posts and Telegraphs Board wherein it has
been suggested that an integrated Postal
Training College be set up ; and

(b) if so, the reaction of Government
thereto ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a)
Yes Sir.

(b) The matter is under consideration of
the Government.

Abduction of Girls in Delhi

2321. SHRI SUKHDEO PRASAD
VERMA : Will the Minister of HOME
AFFAIRS be pleased to state :

(a) the total number of girls abducted
during the period from January to June, 1972
in the Union territory of Delhi ; and

(b) the number of girls not recovered so
far and the reasons thereof ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F . H. MOHSIN) : (a) 14.

(b) 2 out of 14 girls have not so far been
recovered. One girl could not be recovered
despite the best efforts of the police. This
case has been sent as untraccd and its inves-
tigation will be re-opened as and when any
useful information is received by the police.

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Efforts are still being made by the Delhi
Police to recover the second girl.

Industries in U. P. during Fourth Plan

2322. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Will
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO-
LOGY be pleased to state the industrial units,
both big and medium, which are likely to be
set up in Uttar Pradesh during the Fourth
Plan?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
In the central sector, provision has been made
in the Fourth Five Year Plan for the comple-
tion/setting up of the following projects in
the State of Uttar Pradesh : —

1, Bharat Heavy Elec. Ltd., Hardwar.

2. Gorakhpur Fertilizer.

3. Triveni Structural, Nairn.

4. Bharat Pumps & Compressors, Naini.

5. Gas Cylinder, Naini.

6. Long Distance Transmission Equipment
Factory Naini.

7. Second Telephone Factory, Naini.

8. Tannery & Footwear Corporation,
Kanpur.

9. Kanpur Fertilizers (Govt, share)

10. Indian Drugs & Pharmaceuticals Ltd.
(Antibiotics Factory), Rishikesh.

In the private sector, the number of
industrial licensing applications received,
licences and letters of intent issued, during
the last three years in respect of the State of
Uttar Pradesh are as given below : —

Year

No. of applications

1 received under I (D&R)

| Act. 1951

No. of licences issued

1 No. of letters
| of intent

issued

1969

91 ( 42)

8 ( 2)

24(10)

1970

242 (130)

26 ( 4)

29(20)

1971

334 (227)

48 (13)

100(70)

1972
(up to
30-6-1972)

162 (125)

23 ( 8)

61(49)

NOTE : Figures in brackets refer to new industrial undertakings.

loss incurred by A. I. R. Programme
Journals

2323. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA-
SHAR : Will the Minister of INFORMA-
TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased to
state :

(a) whether all the programme journals
published by the A. I. R. with the exception
of Vanoli (Tamil) are running at a loss and
that the major contributors to the loss in
1968-69 have been Akashvani (English), Akas-
hvani (Hindi) and Awaz (Urdu) ;

(b) whether Government have tried to
analyse the factors responsible for this loss ;
and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SIN HA) ; (a) All the Programme Journals
are running at loss, including Vanoli (Tamil).

(b) Yes, Sir.

(c) The format, printing and quality of
production of Akashwani (English) have been
changed recently with a view to making it
more attractive. After assessing the success of
these measures, similar steps will be considered
in respect of the other journals.

Decline in Circulation of Air Journals

2324. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARAS-
HAR J Will the Minister of INFORMATION
AND BROADCASTING be pleased to state :

(a) whether the average circulation per

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issue of all the 8 Programme Journals of All
India Radio has registered a decline every
year since 1966, in spite of the opening of
additional stations, introduction of new pro-
grammes and sharp increase in Broadcas-
ting Receiving sets ;

(b) if so, the reasons for this decline ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) Mainly due to the fact that listeners
get the details of important programmes
through daily announcements over radio
stations and in local newspapers.

(c) Steps to improve the printing and
get up of these journals are under considera-
tion and a beginning has already been made in
the case of Akashvani (English) by introduc-
ing changes in the format, quality of printing
and paper.

Delay in Commissioning of Transmitters

2325. PROF. NARAIN CIIAND PARA-
SIIAR : Will the Minister of INFORMATION
\ND BROADCASTING be pleased to state :

(a) whether there has been a delay rang-
ing from 5 to 36 months in commissioning of
transmitters after their installation in the past
three years ;

(b) if so, whether Government have
ascertained the causes for this inordinate
delay ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) s (a) Only in the case of the
transmitter at Leh there was a delay exceed-
ing five months between installation of trans-
nutter and inauguration. In other cases the
time-lag has not been more than about three
months. In many cases, it has been much
l'*ss.

(b) and (c). The delay at Leh was
because .the transmitter was installed in
November 1970 but due to the extreme cold
it was decided to inaugurate the Station in

June 1971 after acclimatizing the staff to
high altitude conditions.

Reorganization of Broadcasting Services

2326. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA-
SHAR : Will the Minister of INFORMA-
TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased
to state :

(a) whether Government have any plan
for the reorganisation of the Broadcasting
Services especially when it has rejected the
recommendation of the Chanda Committee
for instituting an autonomous Corporation
under an Act of Parliament ; and

(b) if so, the period by which such a
reorganisation would be completed ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) Yes.Sir.

(b) No definite time limit for the com-
pletion of the reorganization can be indicated
at this stage as a final decision can only be
taken after full consideration of all aspects of
the matter and consultation with the authori-
ties concerned.

Installation of a 100 KW MW Transmitter
at Simla

2327. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA-
SHAR : Will the Minister of INFORMA-
TION AND BROADCASTING be pleased
to state :

(a) whether 100 KW MW transmitter to
be installed at Simla was received in Decem-
ber, 1967 and that there was delay of 23
months in its inauguration commissioning ;

(b) if so, the causes for delay ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) i (a) The high power medium wave
transmitter for Simla was received in July-
September, 1967 and commissioned on
25.1.1971.

(b) There was some initial delay in select-
ing the site as the site earlier selected could
not be released by the Ministry of , Defence.
Further delay occurred on account of the fact
that the site selected involved a considerable

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amount of levelling before building construc-
tion could begin.

(c) As the delay was due to factors beyond
the control of All India Radio the question of
fixing responsibility does not arise.

Documentary on Netaji Bose

2328. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the
Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD-
CASTING be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government decided to pro-
duce a documentary film on life and activities
of Netaji Subhash Chandra Bose some three
years back ; if so, the reasons for inordinate
delay in its production ;

(b) whether it will be released before the
next birthday celebration of Netaji on 23rd
January, 1973 ;

(c) whether documentary films on and
photos of Netaji have *been collected from
Japan and South East Asian countries and
Germany, Italy and other European countries
for the film on Netaji under production ;

(d) whether a documentary on Netaji
and I. N. A. was shown on India under the
control of Sardar Patel and then it was
handed over to the Congress I. N. A. Aid
Committee ;

(e) whether that documentary has been
found out and given to the producer for using
as materials for the film on Netaji : and

(f) the salient features of the film ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) Yes, Sir. A film on Netaji
was included in programme of the Films Di-
vision over three years ago. Leading film
directors were approached and it took about
a year to assign the film. The first director
Shri Mrinal Sen gave up the assignment for
personal reasons. It took more time before
Shri Ashis Mukherjee was assigned in Novem-
ber 1970. He later asked for enhancement of
the contract amount and facilities which arc
under consideration of Government.

(b) No, Sir. However, the Films Divi-
sion proposes to prepare a short film on
Netaji for release on his birthday on 23.1.1973
by using the film material available with the
Division.

Bose particularly of the Azad Hind struggle
period but they were not very successful. Only
a 16 mm film on Net^yi from Germany and a
silent news reel item from Japan which shows
Netaji going to talk on the radio, could be
obtained so far.

(d) The documentary film on Netaji
which was produced by the I. N. A. Defence
Committee was shown in India in almost all
the States ; but Government have no informa-
tion about the handing over of the film to the
Congress I. N. A. Aid Committee.

(e) No, Sir.

(f) The film under production is a two-
reel, Black and white film of a biographical
nature.

Honours to persons who rendered patriotic

services for National Development

2329. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to
state :

(a) whether along with the freedom
fighters, special honour will be given to those
belonging to the various sertions of the
society, who have rendered 25 years of
patriotic service by their contribution in the
various fields in consolidating and building
our national freedom ;

(b) whether special achievements and
talents in various spheres of national develop-
ments would also be given special recognition
so that a new sense of dignity and honour
can be developed in encouraging services in
the national-building efforts ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
K. G. PANT) : (a) to (c). Government
have been recognising distinguished service by
individuals in different walks of life through
the Padma Awards. It is not proposed to
institute any special awards for this purpose
during the 25th Independence Jayanti.

25th Anniversary Celebrations of Indian
Independence

2330. SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Will the
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to
state :

(a) whether special ceremonial functions
will be held in observing the 25th year of
Indian freedom in Andaman and Nicobar
Islands, particularly at Port Blair and Anda-

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man Cellular Jail where Netaji Subhas
Chandra Bose raised first flag of Indian
freedom and had set up Indian administration
of Free India Government at Moirang in
Manipur, where INA raised the National
Flag and Headquarter of Free India Govern-
ment was set up ; at Kohima, where the
epic battle of freedom was fought by INA
and in those jails elsewhere, where INA
prisoners were hanged ;

(b) whether special functions will be
held in all jails where India revolutionaries
were hanged ;

(c) whether martyr's columns will be raised
in all the big towns of India in commemora-
tion of the national martyrs of our freedom
struggle ; and

(d) if so, the main features of such pro-
gramme ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
K. Cl. PANT) : (a) Accoiding to informa-
tion received so far, the Andaman Administra-
tion would unveil on the 15th August, 1972,
a plaque containing the names of the twelve
martyrs, who died in the Cellular Jail at
Port Blair in the cause of Freedom.

(b) Other State Governments have given
no information on this point,

(c) and (d). According to the National
level programme for 25th Independence
Jayanti, Commemorative Stone slabs, with
inscription of the Preamble to the Constitution
on one side and the names of the freedom
fighters of the local area on the other arc to
be installed one in each block — all over the
country during the Jayanti Year.

In addition, it has been suggested to State
Governments to consider putting up some
monuments or suitable memorials at places
associated with social events in the freedom
struggle.

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Legislation for banning Communal Orga-
nisations and Parties

2334. SHRI BIRENDER SINGH RAO :
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be
pleased to state :

(a) whethei there is any proposal under
consideration of Government to introduce
suitable legislation for the banning of commu-
nal organisations and parties in the country ;
and

(b) if so, the main features thereof ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE

MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : (a) The
object of the Criminal Law (Amendment)
Act, 1972, which was enacted by Parliament
in the last Budget Session, is, inter alia , to deal
with associations whose activities are prejudi-
cial to the maintenance of communal harmony
and to the interests of national integration.

(b) The Act enlarges the scope of section
153, I. P. C. so as to penalise those kinds of
drills or exercises organised with the intention
or with the knowledge that persons trained in
such activities should resort to violence against
any religious, racial, language or regional group
or caste or community and such activity causes
or is likely to cause fear or alarm or a feeling

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of insecurity amongst members of such group
or caste or community. A new section 153B
I. P. G. has also been inserted to penalise
imputations, assertions prejudicial to national
integration. Further, the scope of the Unlaw-
ful Activities (Prevention) Act, 1967 has been
enlarged to include in the definition of “unlaw-
ful association” also associations which have for
their object any activity which is punishable
under section 153 A or under the new section
153B I. P. C. or which encourage or aid
persons to undertake any such activity or
whose members undertake any such activity.

Study Team visiting places in Tamil
Nadu where Police fired in July, 1972

2335. SHRI BIRENDER SINGH RAO :
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be
pleased to state :

(a) whether a Study Team visited the
places in Tamil Nadu State where police
fired at the public at several places in the first
week of July, 1972 ; and

(b) if so, whether the study team has
submitted its report to Government and if so,
the findings thereof and Government’s reaction
thereto ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) Government had not
deputed any such Study Team to Tamil
Nadu.

(b) Docs not arise.

Raj Bhavans in the Country

2336. SHRI BIRENDER SINGH RAO :
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be
pleased to state :

(a) the number of Raj Bhavans together
with their locations in the country and their
original cost of construction in each case ;

(b) the cost of furnishings of each Raj
Bhavan ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) to (c). The informa-
tion is being collected and will be laid on the
table of the House.

Scheme for Training and Assistance to

Engineers by S. S» I. S. I. f Jaipur

2337. SHRI PURUSHOTTAM KAKO-
DKAR :

SHRI SHRIKISHAN MODI :

Will the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVE-
LOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND TECH-
NOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government’s attention has
been drawn to the report appearing in the
Hindustan Times, dated the 7th July, 1972
regarding the twin schemes of training and
assistance to engineers launched by the Small
Scale Industries Seivice Institute in Jaipur,
Rajasthan ; and

(b) if so, whether such schemes are
proposed to be introduced in other States also
and whether these will solve unemployment
among engineers ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) and (b). Yes, Sir. In order to solve
unemployment among engineers/technicians
and other educated unemployed pci sons, the
Government of India have motivated two
schemes, viz. training of and assistance to
engineers entrepreneurs for self-employment
and a scheme for assisting educated unemp-
loyed. These schemes arc already in existence
in all States and Union Territories. Unem-
ployed engineers are trained to be entrepre-
neurs under one of the schemes by 29 institu-
tes throughout the country. The other schems
aims at providing assistance to the educated
unemployed in the form of equity capital,
machinery on hii e-pui chase, industrial and
commercial estates and assistance to techni-
cians’ Co-operatives within a ceiling of Rs. 6.5
crores per annum.

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Slow growth rate in Electronics Industry

2342. SHRI D. K. PANDA : Will the
PRIME MINISTER be pleased to state :

(a) whether the growth rate of the Elec-
tronics Industry has considerably slowed down
in 1971-72 ;

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
K. C. PANT) : (a) and (b). The production
of electronics has been steadily increasing
from 1964-G5, when the Bhabha Committee
Report was published. From a total produc-
tion of Rs. 30.5 crores of electronic devices
and components in that year, the production
stepped upto Rs. 175 crores in 1970-71. The
data for the year 1971-72 as brought out in
the Annual Report of the Department for the
year 1971-72 indicates a production of
Rs. 185.5 crores. The production for that
year as expected earlier was Rs. 225 crores.
However, th<' production of radios which had
shown significant increases in earlier years
did not show substantial increase in the year
1971-72 ; and this has to a significant extent
resulted in lower production for the electro-
nics industry as a whole than what was
expected earlier.

In this connection, it may be emphasised
that the impoit content allowed per radio set
is Rs. 0.25 and the investments in this sector
are small. There are, therefore, no restrictions
on production which is essentially defined
by demand ; even in the case of firms
requiring licences in this sector their produc-
tion is well below the approved capacities.

It may also be mentioned that the produc-
tion figures given in the Annual Report are
not based on actual production returns but
are the best estimates that can be made.
Production of a number of electronic items in
significant quantities is being undertaken in
the small-scale sector for which correct statis-
tical data is not easily available.

(c) The Electronics Commission is aware
of this trend and has set up technical sections
to go round the country and to discuss with
private and public undertakings and individual
entrepreneurs and to persuade them to take
to the production of items which are needed
in the country and arc presently being

imported, and to assist them in dealing with
their problems.

Check on Brain Drain

2343. SHRI MUKHTIAR SINGH
MALIK Will the Minister of SCIENCE
AND TECHNOLOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether any proposal is under consi-
deration of Government to check the brain
drain and induce Indian Scientists abroad to
return to India ; and

(b) if so, the main features of the propo-
sal ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMANI-
AM) : (a) and (b). Some of the measures
taken to facilitate the return of Indian
Scientists and Technologists are given in the
Statement attached.

Statement

(1) Arrangements have been made for
enrolment of Indian Scientists and
Technologists abroad in the Special
Section of the National Register of
Scientific and Technical Personnel
maintained by C S. I. R.

(2) The particulars of Indian Scientists
and Technologists enrolled in the
Special Section of the National
Register are published periodically in
separate classified lists for engineers,
scientists, doctors, etc. by C. S. I. R.
and sent to all Ministries, Depart-
ments of Government of India, State
Governments, Union and State
Public Service Commissions, Univer-
sities, Public Sector Industries and
large private sector establishments to
facilitate their absorption.

(3) The Union Public Service Commis-
sion have agreed to treat Indian
Scientists and Technologists whose
particulars appear in these classified
lists as “Personal Contact” candidates
for all posts advertised by them.
Some of the State Public Service
Commissions have also agreed to
treat such persons as personal contact
candidates for posts advertised by
them.

(4) A Scientists* Pool was created under

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the Government of India, Ministry of
Home Affairs (Manpower Directorate)
Resolution No. 8/5/57- MP, dated
15th October, 1958, for the temporary
placement of well qualified Indian
Scientists and Technologists without
an employment. The Pool is adminis-
tered by the G. S. I. R. Candidates
selected arc paid a fixed salary some-
where between Rs. 400.00 and
Rs. 700.00 p. m. and other allowances
at the Central Government rules.
In exceptional cases, salary above
Rs. 700.00 is also offered. The selected
candidates are attached to suitable
organisations and receive their salary
from the date they start work. They
are free to apply for any employment
in India and leave the Pool on
securing one.

(5) The National Registir Unit of C. S.
I. R. issues a monthly Bulletin called
“Technical Manpower” which pub-
lishes among other things, particulars
of scientists and technologists selected
for appointment to the Pool from
different countries. Vacancies availa-
ble in India for qualified scientists and
technologists are also published.
Copies of the Bulletin are sent to all
India Missions abroad and all impor-
tant University Centres in U. K.,
U- S. A. and other countries. It is
also distributed to many (more than
3000) employing agencies in the
Public or Private sectors in India.

(6) In August, 1963, all approved scien-
tific institutions were authorised to
create supernumerary posts for rapid
recruitment of talented persons from
abroad without having to go through
the usual procedural delay. The
scheme was extended ^n June, 1971
to those who had not been abroad, so
that they may not have to go abroad
for lack of employment.

(7) In consultation with the Ministry of
Home Affairs, the U. P. S. C. have
made arrangements for interviewing
Indian Scientists and Technologists
abroad for posts in India. The Indian
Scientists abroad arc considered in
course of this interview, for one or
more categories of vacancies existing
as well as those likely to arise in the
next twelve months, and are empane-

lled depending upon their age, acade-
mic qualifications and experience.

The Government of India have deci-
ded that on their selection to regular
employment in India, Indian Scien-
tists etc. abroad may be granted
economy class air-fare for self and
family to facilitate their return,
provided they undertake to serve the
organisation for a minimum period
of 3 years.

(8) The University Grants Commission
have instituted a programme of
appointing visiting Professors in
Indian Universities for the benefit of
scientists abroad.

(9) For Technologists, a package assistance
is proposed to be given to set up
industry on their return.

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Funds for New Units of H. M. T.

2347. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will the
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLO-
GY be pleased to state the funds allocated
for the purpose of setting up of new units of
Hindustan Machine Tools Ltd. in the country
in 1972-73 and 1973-74 ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) 1
The details of the funds provided for the
new projects undertaken by Hindustan
Machine Tools Ltd. Bangalore in 1972-73 are
furnished below :

291 Written Answers AUGUST 16, 1972 Written Answers 292

Rs.

Watch Factory II, Bangalore

105 lakhs

Watch Factory III, Srinagar

207 lakhs

Press Division, Hyderabad

140 lakhs

Printing Machinery Project,
Kalamassery (Kerala)

150 lakhs

Tractor Division, Pinjore

100 lakhs

Total :

702 lakhs

As regards 1973-74, the Budget proposals
yet to be finalised.

Non-Utilisation of Development Funds
allotted to backward States

2348. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will
the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to
state :

(a) whether Government of India have
received complaints that ^ number of back-
ward States in the country have not fully
utilised the development funds allotted to
them ; if so, the names of such States and
amount of funds not utilised by them ;

(b) the reasons for non-utilisation of
these funds ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) There has not
been any shortfall in utilisation by the States
considered to be backward, of the Plan
outlays approved for the three years 1969-70,
1970-71 and 1971-72.

(b) and (c). Do not arise.

Inquiry into the Working of H. E. L.,
Bhopal

2349. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will the
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO-
LOGY be pleased to state :

(a) whether Government have ever
inquired into the working of Heavy Electri-
cals (India) Ltd , Bhopal ; and

(b) if so, the steps taken or proposed to
be taken to improve the working thereof ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) and (b). Government keep a close watch

on the working of Heavy Electricals (India)
Limited, Bhopal. A high powered committee
under the chairmanship of Shri M. S.
Pathak, member. Planning Commission also
recently went into the working of this under-
taking and made certain recommendations
to improve the performance of the unit.
These recommendations have been accepted
and are being implemented.

Rapid progress being made by Public
Sector

2350. SHRI SHRIKISHAN MODI :

SHRI P. M. MEHTA :

Will the Minister of PLANNING be
pleased to state :

(a) whether the Public Sector is making
rapid progress in the country over the plan
periods ; and

(b) if so, the total investment upto the
end of the Fourth Five Year Plan ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) The order of investment in the pub-
lic sector which was Rs. 1560 crores for the
First Plan, Rs. 3650 crores for the Second
Plan, and Rs. 7180 crores for the Third Plan
is likely to reach around Rs. 13,000 crores for
the Fourth Five Year Plan period.

Regional Disparities in per Capita Income

2352. SHRI SAMAR MUKHERJEE :
Will the Minister of PLANNING be pleased
to state :

(a) whether the regional disparities in
per capita income have widened in 1970-71
as compared to 1960-61 ; and

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) and (b). There
is no conclusive statistical evidence to show
that regional disparities in per capita income
have widened between 1960-61 and 1969-70
as comparable estimates of per capita income
of States and regions on the basis of income
accrual concept for this period arc not avail-
able. Also, in view of the wide fluctuations
in agricultural income which constitutes a
significant proportion of the total income in
the country and which occurred from year
to year during this period owing to varying

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weather conditions, it will not be appropriate
to take the two terminal years, 1960-61 and
1969-70, for the purpose of comparison of
per capita income of States and regions.

However, according to the comparable
estimates as furnished by the Central Statis-
tical Organisation for the period 1960-61 to
1964-65 and 1967-68 to 1969-70, the per
capita net domestic product (at current prices)
of all the States has increased during this
period though the rate of increase has not
been uniform among the various States.
Similar information for regions within the
State boundaries is not available.

The variations in growth rates were in-
evitable to some extent on account of a
variety of factors — variation in physio-geo-
graphical conditions, natural endowments,
socio-economic situations and infra-structures,
degree of receptivity to modern technology-
especially in the field of agriculture, etc.

Surrender by Dacoits in Madhya Pradesh,
Uttar Pradesh and Rajasthan

2353. SHRI K. MALLANNA :

SHRI SHIV KUMAR SHASTRI :

Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS
be pleased to state :

(a) the total number of dacoits surren-
deied in Madhya Pradesh, Uttar Pradesh
and Rajasthan at the call of Sarvodaya
Leaders ; and

(b) the Central assistance made available
for the formulation and implementation of
plan for socio-economic development of the
Chambal ravines ?

THE DEPUTV MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. I-I. MOHSIN) : (a) Several factors in-
cluding the efforts made by Sarvodaya Wor-
kers and the Central and the State Govern-
ments concerned led to the surrender of 429
dacoits from the middle of April to 22nd
July, 1972.

(b) An integrated development scheme
including reclamation of the Chambal Ravines
is being pepared by the Central Government
in consultation with the Governments of
Madhya Pradesh, Rajasthan and Uttar Pra-
desh for the socio-economic development of
the Chambal Valley area.

Rare Earth Products

2354. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : Will

the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be
pleased to state :

(a) whether there is shortfall in the Rare
Earths Products in the country due to the
shortage of caustic soda and steel sheets for
packing ; and

(b) if so, the extent to which it has affec-
ted production in different plants and the
steps taken to increase the supply of these
materials ?

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI):
(a) and (b). Owing to the shortage of caustic
soda, there has been a shortfall of approxi-
mately 8% against the target in the produc-
tion of rare earths compounds by Indian
Rare Earths Ltd.# Alwaye during 1971-72.
As the production was not up to the target,
the impact of shortage of steel on production
was negligible.

To the extent that there is a shortfall in
the supply of caustic soda by their regular
suppliers, the Company are making efforts to
purchase their requirements from other
sources.

Setting up of a Heavy Water Plant in
Kerala

2355. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : Will
the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be
pleased to refer to the reply given to Un-
starred question No. 427 on 2nd August, 1972
regarding the setting up of heavy water plants
m the country and state :

(a) whether Government have considered
the possibility of setting up such a plant in
Kerala ; and

(b) if not, the reasons therefor ?

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER OF
SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI) :
(a) and (b). The economics of a heavy water
plant is dependent on the availability of an
Ammonia Plant of a minimum capacity of
900 tonnes per day. There is no Ammonia
Plant with such large capacity in Kerala.

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Large Stocks of Zircon in Hare Earths
Plants in Kerala

2356. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI: Will
the Minister of ATOMIC ENERGY be
pleased to state :

(a) whether the stocks of Zircon in the
Rare Earths Plants in Keiala have piled up ;

(b) whether the Government have consi-
dered the possibilities of any alternative in-
digenous use of this material ; and

THE PRIME MINISTER, MINISTER
OF ATOMIC ENERGY, MINISTER OF
ELECTRONICS, MINISTER OF HOME
AFFAIRS, MINISTER OF INFORMATION
AND BROADCASTING AND MINISTER
OF SPACE (SHRIMATI INDIRA GANDHI):

(a) There is no accumulation ol zircon in
the mineral sands separation plant of Indian
Rare Earths Ltd., at Chavara, Kerala. There
is some accumulation however in their plant
at Manavalakunchi, Tamil Nadu.

(b) and (c). Indian Ran Earths Ltd.
have already set up two plants, one at
Chavara and the other at Manavalakurichi,
to process zircon to cater to a wider market.
It is hoped that with these steps and with
continued marketing efforts, it will be possi-
ble to reduce the stocks in spite of a world-
wide glut of this mineral.

Conversion of reserved vacancies for SC
and ST candidates into general vacancies
in the Planning Commission

2357. SHRI AMBESH : Will the Minis-
ter of PLANNING be pleased to state the
number of posts, category-wise, referred to
him for conversion into general vacancies,
during the last three years for want of Sche-
duled Caste and Scheduled Tribe candidates ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : During the last three
years five Class I (gazetted) and eleven Glass
II and Class III (non-gazetted) posts had to
be de-reserved and declared general for want
of suitable candidates from amongst the
Scheduled Castes and Scheduled Tribes.

According to the procedure laid down by
the Department of Personnel for de-rcscrva-
tion of reserved vacancies the approval of
that Department has been obtained in the

cases mentioned above. The cases are, how-
ever, being scrutinized afresh.

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S.C. and S. T. Employees in Ministry of
Information and Broadcasting

2359. SHRI AMBESH : Will the Minis-
ter of INFORMATION AND BROADCAS-
TING be pleased to state :

(a) the number of Class I, II, III and
IV employees in I and B Ministry ;

(b) the number of Scheduled Castes and
Scheduled Tribes employees ; and

(c) the number of posts, category-wise,
converted into general vacancies in the last
three years for want of Scheduled Tribe
candidates ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) and (b).

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(a) and (b).

Category of

Total Number of

Number belonging to

post

employees
(as on 1.1.72)

Scheduled

Castes

Scheduled

Tribes

997

2,195

110

III

7,660

1,027

247

4,597

1,304

264

Employment for Youth during Silver
Jubilee Year

2360. SHRI P. R. DAS MUNSI : Will
the Minister of PLANNING be pleased to
state :

(a) whether the Prune Minister has stated
the Silver Jubilee Year as the year of younger
generation ;

(b) if so, whether the Prime Minister
feels the acute problem of unemployed youth
all over the country ; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) to (c). The Prime
Minister has on several occasions impressed
upon the youth of the country that the coun-
try is theirs and that they have a great role
in its development. Piimc Minister and the Gov-
ernment are fully aware of the seriousness of
the unemployment situation in the country. All
possible steps are being taken to provide inc-
reasing employment opportunities for the rural
and urban youth. An allocation of about Rs.
180 crores has been made in 1972-73 for
employment programmes. Details arc as
follows :

(a) Schemes for educated unemployed :

(Rs. crores)

(1) Expansion and improvement of

quality of primary education

29.48

(2) Financial assistance for setting

up of industries

6.50

(3) Rural Engineering surveys

2.85

(4) Agro service centres

0.76

(5) Expansion of Consumer Co-
operative Stores 0.50

(6) Investigation of road projects 0.90

(7) Setting up of design units for

rural water supply 0.44

(b) Schemes for highly qualified
personnel such as engineers,
technology and scientists 20.00

(c) Special employment schemes
undertaken by State Govern-
ments on the basis of Central
assistance amounting to Rs.
26.5 crores and additional
resouices mobilisation by

them

48.67

(d) Special employment Schemes

undertaken by Union Territo-

ries

0.50

(e) Crash scheme for rural employ-

ment

50.00

(f) Drought prone area program-

mes

20.00

Besides, the programme like Small Far-
mers Development Agencies and Marginal
Farmers and Agricultural Labour are expect-
ed to provide increasing employment
opportunities to the youth in the rural areas.
In order to enable -technical and other quali-
fied persons to engage in productive activities,
the State Bank of India and the other natio-
nalised banks have been operating schemes of
special assistance to entrepreneurs to set up
small industries on their own under which
liberal financial assistance is given.

Further, 225 industrially backward dis-
tricts have been selected to qualify for con-
cessional finance for promotion of industries
from the all India term -lending Financial
Institutions ; out of these, 44 districts have
also been selected to qualify for an outright
grant or subsidy by the Centre amounting to

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300

10 per cent of the fixed capital investment of
new industrial units having an investment of
not more than Rs. 50 lakhs each and also the
existing units undertaking substantial expan-
sion of their capacity. Number of districts
entitled foi 10% subsidy has recently been
raised to six in backward States and to three
in other States. These measures are expected
to stimulate industrial development in the
backward areas resulting in a large number
of employment opportunities.

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Shortage of Specialised Men and Tech-
nical Hands

2362. SHRI PRABODH CHANDRA :
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be
pleased to state :

(a) whether there is an acute shortage of
specialised men and technical hands especi-
ally in Electronic line in the country ; and

(b) if so, what steps Government propose
to take to meet this shortage ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F.H. MOHSIN) : (a) No, Sir.

(b) Docs not arise.

cc Chitrahar Programme” over Delhi T.V.

2363. SHRI B. R. SHUKLA : Will the
Minister of INFORMATION AND BROAD-
CASTING be pleased to state :

(a) whether the songs and scenes screen-
ed in the Television in “Chitrahar program-
me” lack proper planning resulting in presen-
tation of vulgar and obscene scenes from
films ; and

(b) whether Government propose to take
steps to ensure proper selection of songs and
scenes or replace it by some other piogramme
of national urgency ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : (a) No, Sir.

(b) Chitrahar is a popular entertainment
programme. There is no proposal to replace
it by any other programme.

Creation of a National Hydrological
Board

2364. SHRI B. R. SHUKLA : Will the
Minister of SCIENCE AND TECHNOLO-
GY be pleased to state :

(a) whether the creation of National
Hydrological Board as a high power inter-
disciplinary body to tackle the country's water
resources problem is under the consideration
of the Government ; and

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302

(b) if so, the reasons for creation of such
a board ?

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRAMA-
NIAM) : (a) and (b). The creation of a
National Hydrological Board is under consi-
deration of the Government.

Rent Restriction Laws in Chandigarh

2365. SHRI AMAR NATH VIDYAL-
ANKAR : Will the Minister of HOME
AFFAIRS be pleased to state :

(a) whether Chandigarh is the only big
town where exemption from all Rent Restric-
tion Laws continues to be granted ;

(b) whether representations have been
made on behalf of Chandigarh citizens from
time to time requesting for the imposition of
Rent Restriction Laws in Chandigarh as app-
lied elsewhere ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H MOHSIN) : (a) Rent Control Act is
in forc< in most of the states and Chandigarh
is the only big town exempted from rent
restriction laws.

(b) Yes.

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Opening of New Telephone Exchanges In
Calcutta

2367. SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Will
the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS be
pleased to state :

(a) whether it is planned to open thirteen
new Telephone Exchanges in Calcutta ;

(b) if so, the number of additional new
lines which will be provided thereby ; and

will have cross-bar equipment of American
design ? •

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a)
Yes Sir. It is proposed to open fifteen new
telephone exchanges in Calcutta during the
next 5 to 6 Years. Equipment for these have
already been allotted.

(b) These, new exchanges will add 51,800
lines to the system.

(c) 14 of the new exchanges will have
pentaconta crossbar equipment manufactured
by M/s. Indian Telephone Industries. One
new exchange will have step by step equip-
ment manufactured by M/s. Indian Tele-
phone Industries.

Alleged harassment of Persons by Police
who Volunteer themselves to take Victim
of Road Accident to Hospital

2368. SHRIMATI SAVITRI SHYAM :
Will the Minister* of HOME AFFAIRS be
pleased to state :

(a) whether persons who volunteer them-
selves to carry the victim of road and other
accidents in Delhi to the nearest hospital or
provide immediate information to the Police
are subjected to harassments and making
forced statement by the Police ;

(b) if so, whether Government propose to
issue instructions to the police that in no case
such persons should be harassed detained or
forced to sign a statement ;

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AUGUST 16, 1972

Written Answers

304

make necessary amendment in the law so that
the first informer may not be compelled to
give his witness in the court ; and

(d) whether Government propose to ins-
titute awards and prizes to them who
volunteer their services in such cases ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) No. Only one com-
plaint of this nature has come to notice since
1971.

(b) The Delhi Police have already issued
instructions to all concerned to avoid any
harassment to such persons.

(c) No. However, Delhi Police have
issued orders that if such persons are not eye-
witnesses, their affidavits be obtained for
tendering in court and they need not be
called for evidence.

(d) No.

Disposal of Properties by Former Rulers

2369. SHRI P. NARASIMHA REDDY :
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be
pleased to state :

(a) whether the inalienability clause in
relation to the palaces and properties of
former Rulers is being revoked to enable them
to dispose of their properties ; and

(b) if so, the reasons therefor ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
K. C. PANT) : (a) and (b). Government
of India had informed the former Rulers as
early as in December, 1954 that it was for
them to decide whether it would be in order
to dispose of by sale or otherwise any of the
items recognized by the Government as private
properties.

The former Ruler of Mysore has asked
for permission to dispose of three of his
palaces as in the inventory of private pro-
perties these were shown as inalienable and
to be preserved for use by the Ruler and his
successors. The whole matter is under
examination in consultation with the Govern-
ment of Mysore.

Trank Telephone Services in Andhra

Pradesh

2370. SHRI P. NARASIMHA REDDY :
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS

be pleased to state :

(a) the steps being taken during the
current year to improve the Trunk Telephone
services in Andhra Pradesh ;

(b) whether the proposed Microwave
system from Madras via Tirupati to Bangalore
will link up Chittoor town en route ; and

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a)
Over a hundred trunk switch-boards have been
made available this year to Andhra P & T
Circle for installation in the Circle. Further
allotments of trunk switch-boards are being
made as planned for improving the trunk
service.

The Secunderabad trunk exchange is being
shifted to a more spacious location. Another
large trunk exchange is under installation at
Kakinada. Subscribers Trunk Dialling has
been planned on the following routes :

(i) Guntur-Vijayawada,

(ii) Hydcrabad-Bombay,

(iii) Hyderabad-Vijayawada,

(iv) Hyderabad-Madras,

(v) Madras- Vijayawada,

( vi) Madras-T i rupathi ,

These arc under various stages of installation/
planning. STD service on the Guntur-Vijaya-
wada route is expected to be commissioned
within a year.

(b) No, Sir.

(c) The microwave system linking Madras
to Mangalore and Madras to Tirupati which
form part of Bombay-Mangalore-Madras and
Mangalore-Trivandrum microwave routes are
likely to be progressively commissioned from
1974-75 onwards.

Telephone Division at Chittoor

2371. SHRI P. NARASIMHA REDDY :
Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS
be pleased to state :

(a) whether there is a need and justifica-
tion for setting up a separate Telephones
Division at Chittoor ;

(b) if so, the steps taken in this regard ;

and

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SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAJCA)

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306

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a)
No, Sir.

(b) Does not arise.

Investment in Industry

2372. SHRI S. R. DAMANI : Will the
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT
AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be
pleased to state :

(a) the reasons why investment in industry
has not taken place according to the Fourth
Plan projections resulting in industrial stagna-
tion :

(b) what are the existing policies that
need modification to improve the climate
without whittling down the concept of growth
with social justice ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) to (c). The trend of investments in
industry has been reviewed on the occasion
of the mid-term appraisal of the Fourth Plan.
It was found that there have been apprecia-
ble short-falls in the public sector largely due
to slippages in the schedules of construction.
Precise figures relating to private investments
in the organised sector are not available.
While the levels of the capital raised in the
market and the disbursement of funds by the
term lending institutions have shown increasing
trends, the total investments in the private
sector have so far remained below the levels
envisaged in the plan. However, there are
indications that conditions are generally
conducive to accelerated development in the
future, as shown by the general level of
demand for industrial goods and the broad
Picture of investible resources for industry.
The licensing policy has already been oriented
to provide for liberal licensing and to promote
growth in a broad based manner. The num-
ber of letters of intent and licences issued has
been substantially stepped up. The approvals
for foreign collaboration, where necessary, and

for the import of capital goods have been
speeded up. Government has also announced
certain liberalisations for the fuller utilisation
of existing capacities. The investment and
production trends in industry are under
continuous watch by Government.

Permits for Foreign Tourists who visit
Darjeeling

2373. SHRI S. G. SAMANTA : Will the
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to
state whether foreign tourists are required to
obtain permits to visit Darjeeling but are not
required to do so when they visit places like
Srinagar in Kashmir and if so, the reasons
therefor ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : Darjeeling has been
declared as restricted area under the Foreigners
(Restricted Areas) Order, 1963, and as such
foreigners desiring to visit that place are
rcquir^l to obtain permits. According to the
requirements of security, certain areas and
places in Jammu and Kashmir have also
similarly been declared as restricted or pro-
hibited areas in which Srinagar has not been
included.

Purchase of Industrial Plants through
NSSIC on Rupee Payment

2374. SHRI DALIP SINGH: Will the
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT
AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be
pleased to state :

(a) whether several proposals for purchase
through National Small Scale Industries Cor-
poration of Industrial Plants from rupee-
payment countries like U.S.S.R are pending
only for want of funds ; and

(b) if so, the time by which the funds
would be made available for the purpose ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) Yes, Sir. Certain cases of that kind are
pending with the National Small Industries
Cdrporation Ltd.

(b) NSIC is resuming issue of orders on a
restricted scale consistent with the present
availability of funds and national priorities.

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AUGUST 16, 1972

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308

bsae of Licence for setting up of Tractor
Factory at Pratapgarh (U. P.)

2375. SHRI DINESH SINGH : Will the
Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT
AND SCIENCE AND TECHNOLOGY be
pleased to state :

(a) whether the party to whom a Letter
of Intent was issued to set up a Tractor
Factory at Pratapgarh, U. P. ha9 taken steps
to establish the Factory ;

(b) if so, when is it likely to be com-
pleted ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
(a) The party had submitted the draft colla-
boration agreement whick. they propose to
enter into with their foreign principals. The
terms of collaboration have been approved.
The party had also submitted their applica-
tion for import of capital goods which has
been considered by Government.

(b) and (c). The project is likely to be
completed in three to four year’s time.

Transfer of P & T Employees from
Trichur Telephone Exchange

2376. SHRI A. K. GOPALAN :

SHRI M. K. KRISHNAN :

Will the Minister of COMMUNICATIONS
be pleased to state :

(a) the number of employees of the
Posts and Telegraphs Department (Telephones)
who have been transferred from Trichur
(Kerala) Exchange recently ; and

(b) the reasons for their transfers ?

THE MINISTER OF COMMUNICA-
TIONS (SHRI H. N. BAHUGUNA) : (a)
Five.

(b) On administrative grounds in the
interest of service.

Meeting of Gronp of Ministers of
“Production” Ministries

2377. SHRI K. MALLANNA : Will
the Minister of INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT AND SCIENCE AND TECHNO-
LOGY be pleased to state the important
decisions arrived at the first meeting of the

newly set-up Group of Ministers of ,f Produc-
tion Ministries*' to clear the hurdles in the
industrial growth ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INDUSTRIAL DEVELOP-
MENT (SHRI SIDDHESHWAR PRASAD) :
The Honourable Member presumably refers
to the informal meetings of Ministers for
Planning, Steel and Mines, Railways, Petro-
leum and Chemicals, Industrial Development
and Foreign Trade. This is an informal
group. Specific dicisions are taken in the
concerned Ministries and, when necessary, in
the Cabinet or in the concerned Committee
of the Cabinet.

Amount allotted to Kerala for providing
Jobs to Educated Unemployed

2378. SHRIMATI BHARGAVI THAN-
KAPPAN : Will the Minister of PLANNING
be pleased to state :

(a) the total amount allotted to the State
Government of Kerala in order to implement
the scheme for providing jobs to the educated
unemployed during the year 1971-72 and
1972-73 ; year-wise ; and

(b) how much money has so far been
spent thereon ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING ( SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : (a) and (b). The

details of the amount allocated and finally
released to the Government of Kerala for
schemes for educated unemployed initiated
in 1971-72 and 1972-73 are indicated below :-

(Rs. lakhs)

1971-72 1972-73

Scheme Amount Amount Amount

allocated released allocated

Expansion and
improvement of

primary education
Assistance for

15.86

12.20

97.86

setting up in-
dustries

48.00

15.70

35.00

Rural engineer-
ing survey

0.95

Nil

5.43

Advance action

on investigation ,
of road works

0.85

0 85

2.55

Rural water supply

0 70

Nil

1.20

66.36

28.75

142.04

309 Re. Motion for Adjnmt.

SRAVANA 23, 1894 (SAJCA) Re. Motion for Atfjnmt. 310

Releases for 1972-73 will be made by the
Government of India to the State Government
depending on the progress of the schemes.

Proposals made by North Eastern Council
for extension of Railways from Dharma-
nagar to Agartala

2379. SHRI BIREN DUTTA : Will the
Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be pleased to
* state :

(a) whether North Eastern Council has
discussed the problem of extension of Railway
from Dharmanagar to Agartala for integrated
development of that region ;

(b) whether any proposal has been made
by the Council for improving road transport
system in that region ; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
F. H. MOHSIN) : (a) to (c). With the
enforcement of the North Eastern Council
Act, 1971 as from 1st August, 1972, the
Council has come into existence only from
that date. The Council has not met so far.

12.03 hrs.

RE : MOTION FOR ADJOURNMENT

SHRI S M. BANERJEE (Kanpur) : I
rise on a point of order ( Interruptions ).

MR. SPEAKER : What is the point of
order ?

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I rise on a
point of order under Rule 376 (2) . . .

MR. SPEAKER : The Speaker does not
normally announce his decision in the House
itself ; he conveys it to the office that such and
such a matter has not been admitted. Please
do not arise it in this manner in the House.
Why do you go beyond the convention of the
House ? ( Interruptions ) It connot be allowed
as an adjournment motion. I have already
conveyed it to hon. Members that it cannot
be allowed as an adjournment motion. If
there is a dispute between the Corporation
of Bombay and the labour, how can it come
here ? At the same time, broad questions
cannot be the subject-matter of an adjournment
motion, They can table other motions for
discussion, but they cannot discuss it through
an adjournment motion. Adjournment

motion has its own rules about it. (Inter*
ruptions ). As hon. Members know, broad
questions of policy cannot be discussed through
an adjournment motion. There have been a
number of rulings in this House before also
that lock-outs, strikes etc. cannot come
through an adjournment motion . . .

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE* On a point
of order . . .

MR. SPEAKER : I am sorry it cannot
be allowed as an adjournment motion.

SHRI K.D. MALAVIYA (Domariaganj) :
I want to make a very serious effort to under-
stand what this uneasiness from the Opposi-
tion side is about . . . (Interruptions)

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I rise on a
point of order . . .

MR. SPEAKER : So far as the Speaker’s
ruling is concerneg, there can be no point
of order on the question of admitting the
adjournment motion.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Kindly see
the business before the House. I am raising
the point of order under the rule 367 (2)
which says :

“A point of order may be raised in

relation to the business before the House

at the moment.”

At the moment . . .

MR. SPEAKER : I have not allowed it.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Kindly hear
me, Sir. I am not questioning your ruling.
Under Direction 56 of the Directions by the
Speaker, an adjournment motion always gets
precedence over a calling-attention-notice.
As you are aware, there is a strike going on
in Bombay, and this is because of the failure
of Government to evolve a formula for mini-
mum bonus for the employees or workers . . .

MR. SPEAKER : Let him not bring
in the subject through a point of order . . .

SHRI S M. BANERJEE : Further, not
more than one matter shall be discussed, and
the motion shall be restricted to specific
matter of recent occurrence . . .

MR. SPEAKER : Order, order. He can
see me in my chamber. I am prepared to
discuss, but not in the House. ( Interruptions ).

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : (Alipore) :
This is a vital matter in which Central

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AUGUST 16, 1972

Re. Motion for Ajjnmt.

312

[Shri Indrajit Gupta]

Government policy is involved* That is why
I want to raise it.

MR. SPEAKER : The question is about
the employees of the Corporation of
Bombay. Flow can it come in Parliament ?

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA
(Begusarai) s The failure of the Central
Government is established in regard to the
evolution of a bonus formula ( Interruptions ).

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Tomorrow
if the port and dock workers go on strike
in Bombay, it will have to be raised here.

MR. SPEAKER : So far as this question
is concerned, I cannot give my consent to
the adjournment motion.

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENT-
ARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI R£J BAHADUR) :
May I request that when you are stan-
ding, Sir, they must not keep standing ?
(Interruptions).

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Why did
he stand up when you are standing ?

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PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE (Raja-
pur) : On a point of order.

MR. SPEAKER : No. They can see me
in my chamber. But the ruling on the
admissibility of the adjournment motion can
not be discussed in the House. We can meet
and discuss. We can find another way of
bringing this issue here, but so far as this mat-
ter is concerned, an adjournment motion can
not come under this. You can find other
ways of bringing the issue here. #

PROF. MADFIU DANDAVATE : I
want to know whether raising a point of
order is out of order.

MR. SPEAKER : I am not allowing it.

I am not preparrd to hear him on that.
How can they bring in an adjournment motion
over a matter over which I cannot decide ?

( Interruptions ). I have already explained it to
Prof. Dandavate.

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : I am
rasing another issue. When I met you in your
chamber, I had said something about what
is happening in the city of Bombay, how the
autonomy of the Corporation is being
destroyed. I am not raising that issue here.
In my adjournment motion, the failure of the
Central Government to evolve an agreed
formula in regaid to bonus formally in con-
sultation with the centra] trade unions has
resulted in a situation where there may be
strikes throughout the country . . .

MR. SPEAKER : No, no.

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : This
is an all India Issue. The Bonus Review
Committee is within the purview of the
Central Government . . (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : All I say is that, if the
Minister wants he may come out with a
statement. If you so desire, this matter can
be brought up through call attention motion
or something, not J through adjournment
motion. . (Interruptions). Mr. Khadilkar has
come and 1 shall explain it to him. They
came through an adjournment motion which
I have not accepted. The Opposition leaders,
Shri Indrajit Gupta, Prof. Dandavate. . . .

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : All the oppo-
sition people . . (Interruptions.)

MR. SPEAKER : They said that some
strike was going on.

SHRI RAJ BAHADUR : We are not
averse to a discussion. The main question
is whether it could be discussed m the form

313 Re. Motion for Atfjnmt. SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SARA) Re. Motion for Adjnmt. 314

of an adjournment motion. You very rightly
said that it could not be discussed that way.
Therefore we can discuss it in the Business
Advisory Committee.

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : You want
the strike to continue ?

MR. SPEAKER : You bring in matters
which are not within our jurisdiction.
.... ( Interruptions .)

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : If it is a
matter which does not concern the Central
Government, please do not ask us to send call
attention notices. What is the logic ? If we
can raise it through other motions, we can
raise it through adjournment motion also.

MR. SPEAKER : It is not a matter for
adjournment motion. ... {Interruptions). Mr.
Khadilkar.

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADIL-
KAR) : I should like to know what is the
demand ? . . . . ( Interruptions )

MR. SPEAKER : The demand is this,
I have not allowed the adjournment motion
that came. But they say this concerns the
Central Government and the strike is there
between the Bombay Corporation and its
employees. The second question is the question
of bonus, which they say is an all-India ques-
tion. In the motion that came to me day be-
fore yesterday from Mr. Dandavate, only the
strike was mentioned, which I did not accept.

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : That
is not correct.

MR. SPEAKER : They have added this
question of bonus today, over which the
Government of India has not yet decided. I
have not accepted the adjournment motion
but I wish you collect the facts about it and
come out with a statement.

SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra) : I do
not think hence forward any member of the
Opposition is going to be able to convince
you about when an adjournment motion
should or should not be tabled. Therefore I
suggest a drastic change of procedure which
will remove the discretion from the hands of
the Speaker about giving consent to an
adjournment motion.

MR. SPEAKER : I am not bound to
tell the House the reasons. If the hon. mem-
bers meet me in my chamber I can tell

them. I convey it to them through the
secretariat. They tell them the reasons.
(Interruptions). Every day we discuss several
matters through calling attention motions, under
Rule 377 and in so many other ways, which
I allow. But an adjournment motion must
come within the rules prescribed for it.

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond
Harbour) : This does come.

MR. SPEAKER : It does not come.
You get so many opportunities in the past
members did not get it.

PROF. MADHU DANDAVATE : Before
the Labour Minister makes a statement, we
want a categorical formulation. With great
respect to you, may I say, I have not raised
merely the issue of the Bombay strike ? What
I have raised is the failure of the Union
Government to evolve an acceptable bonus
formula, acceptable to all Central Trade
Union Organisations, resulting in country
wide discontent amongst industrial labour, as
evidenced by the strike of 1.50 lakh workers
in Bombay.

SHRI R. S. PANDEY (Raj nandgaon) :
You have ruled out the adjournment motion.
You further said that unless a calling atten-
tion is there, the House cannot discuss the
Bombay strike. I want to know whv you are
asking the minister to make a statement. I do
not challenge your ruling but when there is
no business before the House so far as the
stiike in Bombay is concerned — there is neither
an adjournment motion nor at calling attention
now-why are you asking the minister to make
a statement ? You have ruled out the adjourn-
ment motion on the strike because it is a
State subject. About bonus also, there is no
calling attention. ( Interruptions ).

MR. SPEAKER : My exclusion of the
adjournment motion does not deprive them
of their right to have some information
through other motions. . [Interruptions). So far
as this adjournment motion is concerned,
that is excluded. They can get information
through Calling Attention or some other way.
My disallowing the adjournment motion docs
not mean that they cannot get it through
other means.

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : How ?

SHRI JAGANNATH RAO JOSHI :
(Shajapur) : Is the Minister making a state-
ment or not ? . . (Interruptions)

MR. SPEAKER : So far as matters con-

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cermng bonus are concerned, which come
within the jurisdiction of the Government of
India, he may make a statement later on.

SHRI N. K. P. SALVE (Bihar) : Sir, I
rise on a point of order. When an adjourn-
ment motion was given notice of, you have
ruled that it is out of order. Is it then pro-
per, or would it be under the rules for the
chair to ask the Minister to make a statement
even on facts ? The question was raised under
rule 377. The lules are absolutely clear in
the matter. . ( Interruptions )

MR. SPEAKER : Leaving aside rule 377
if I do not allow an adjournment motion, I
can even otherwise ask the Minister to make
a statement if hon. Members are agitated
over a particular issue. On the question of
bonus they have a right to ask the Minister to
give some information. But I have made it
clear that it would not be* an adjournment
motion.

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Sir, on a
point of oidcr. I am sorry to say that what
you have said is not correct. Under rule 377
I wanted to raise a matter. You, in your
wisdom, disallowed it. Now you are saying
“I do not allow the adjournment motion ; I
will ask the Minister to make a statement’*.

MR. SPEAKER : Why should I not ask
the Minister to make a statement?..

(. Interruptions ).

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : What is the
position of the Minister ? Are the Congress
Members advising him not to make a state-
ment. . ( Interruptions )

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU 2 The
INTUC people are pressurizing him not to
make a statement. . ( Interruptions .)

MR. SPEAKER : I have said that it is
up to the Minister to make a statement.

SHRI C. M. STEPHEN (Muvattupuzha):
Sir, on a point of clarification. The only rule
under which the Minister can make a statement
is rule 372 . . ( Interruptions ).

The point that I want to make is .
{Interruptions.) I am not going to yield ; I am
also entitled to make a submission. I shall
not be cowed down that way. The only rule
under which the Minister is to make a state-
ment is Rule 372. It says :

"A Statement may be made by a
Minister on a matter of public importan-

ce with the consent of the Speaker but
no question shall be asked at the time
the statement is made.”

The question is, whether the Minister is seek-
ing the consent of the Speaker or whether
the Speaker is directing the Minister to make
a statement. The Minister may seek the con-
sent of the Speaker and the Speaker may give
his consent. I want to know whether the
Minister is seeking the consent of the Speaker
or the Speaker is directing the Minister to
make a statement. According to me, the
speaker cannot direct the Minister to make a
statement (Interruptions),

SHRI JAGDISH CHANDRA DIXIT
(Sitapur) : I rise on a point of order.

The question that has been agitated before
the House is that of bonus. For that, we can
have a discussion under Rule 193 on some
day because we would have to go into the
pros and cons of everything. But then, just
forgetting your ruling. . {Interruptions). Why
are you afraid of going to the field, talking
to the persons, looking into the pros and cons
. . (Interruptions) . My demand is that let us
examine the question of bonus on some day
and let us devote half an hour on it. There-
fore; I stress that the demand for adjourn-
ment motion is neither desirable nor necessary
(Interruptions.)

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : As you
desired I should say something, two points
were raised. Firstly, it was regarding the
Bombay strike. As you are well aware, the
present scheme of bonus docs not cover the
local authority. The question of the Bombay
strike will be dealt with by the appropriate
Government, that is, the State Government.
This House has no authority so far as the
constitutional position is concerned.

Regarding the question of bonus in gene-
ral, as you are aware, I have replied on
several occasions that the entire scheme is for
review before the Committee. The Committee
is seized of the matter. If somebody raises a
question as to whether the Committee will
give an interim report or that it will give a
final report, what is the position about bonus
scheme, if there is notice, I will state the
position. At the present juncture, I cannot
say anything because the Committee is seized
of the matter so far as the bonus scheme is
concerned. ( Interruptions )

Some Hon, Members then left the House.

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GALLING ATTENTION TO MATTER OF
URGENT PUBLIC IMPORTANCE

Reported failure of the Government to
complete Farakka Barrage as scheduled

MR. SPEAKER : We now take up the
call-attention. Mr. Samar Guha.

SHRI SAMAR GUHA (Contai) : Before
I call the attention of the Minister, I want
to tell you, Sir, that I am in agreement with
the members of Opposition to leave the
House. But since the Farakka issue is a very
vital and important one, affecting a large
section of our nation, while associating myself
wholly with the Opposition’s decision to leave
the House, I have to remain in the House to
call the attention of the Minister and the
House.

I call the attention of the hon. Minister
of Irrigation and Power to the following mat-
ter of urgent public importance and request
that he may make a statement thereon : —

“Repoited failure of the Government
to complete Farakka Barrage project as
scheduled and assuring discharge of ade-
quate quantum of Ganga water through
the feeder canal into the river Hooghly.”

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF IRRIGATION AND PO-
WER (SHRI B N. KUREEL) : The main
objective of the Farakka Barrage Project is to
provide regulated upland discharges into the
Bhagiiathi-Hooghly system in order to bring
about impiovcmcnt in the navigability of the
Hooghly for the preservation of the Port of
Calcutta. For this a barrage across Ganga
and a Feeder Canal to carry the waters to
Bhagirathi and other ancillary works were
sanctioned in 1960. Expenditure sanction
was given in 1962. The barrage work was
started early in 1963. Barrage and Canal
works were originally scheduled to be com-
pleted by June, 1971. The present position
is that Farakka Barrage and most of the an-
cillary woiks were completed by July, 1971.
The rail-cum-road bridge over it has also been
completed and this has provided rail and
load links to North Bengal . . .

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : We have already
?ol a copy of the statement. Why should he
read out the whole statement, Sir ?

MR. SPEAKER : The statement has al-
ready been sent to the members. It may be

Barrage (C. A,)

taken as read. The hon. Member may ask
the question.

SHRI B, N. KUREEL: I beg to lay
the Statement on the Table of the House.

Statement

The main objective of the Farakka Bar-
rage Project is to ptovide regulated upland
discharges into the Bhagirathi-Hooghly system
in order to bring about improvement in the
navigability of the Hooghly for the preserva-
tion of the Port of Calcutta. For this a barrage
across Ganga and a Feeder Canal to carry
the waters to Bhagirathi and other ancillary
works were sanctioned in 1960. Expenditure
sanction was given in 1962. The barrage
work was started early in 1963. Barrage and
Canal works were originally scheduled to be
completed by June, 1971. The present posi-
tion is that Farakka Barrage and most of the
ancillary works were completed by July, 1971.
The rail-rum-road bridge over it has also
been completed and this has provided rail
and road links to North Bengal.

The Feeder Canal is one of the largest and
difficult constructions in the world having a
bed width greater than even the International
Suez Canal in Egypt. The work on the canal
was started in 1965 and has spread over a
number of working seasons some of which
were short owing to early rains and sustained
prolonged floods. There was a great labour
unrest since 1969, both in contractors’ organi-
sations as well as in departmental work,
affecting the pace of work. Notwithstanding
the above, more than 80% of the work of the
Feeder Canal has been done and the balance
is expected to be completed by December,
1973, we hope to let down the Ganga water
through the canal early in 1974.

Regarding the discharge of adequate
quantum of Ganga water through the Feeder
Canal into river Hooghly, a statement is laid
on the Tabic of the House.

Statement re. Farakka Project and Port of Calcutta

Necessity for Headwaters Flow

1. The Port of Calcutta is situated on the
Lower Hooghly at a distance of 128 miles from
the sea. The navigation conditions of the
Lower Hooghly are progressively deteriorating
and many famous engineers have been think-
ing of how best to check this tendency. Sir
Arthur Cotton suggested, a century and a
half back, the construction of a barrage
on Ganga at Rajmahal. Twenty years back,

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[Shri B. N. Kureel]

Government of India constituted a Committee
under the Chairmanship of Shri Man Singh
to examine matters relating to the improve-
ment of headwater supply of the river
Hooghly. Later on the subject was further
studied by a number of engineers including
Dr. Hensen of Germany and is even now
being vigorously pursued. Hydraulic model
studies have also been employed.

2. It has been agreed that the main rea-
son of deterioration is the absence of adequate
and continuous flow in Bhagirathi due to
siltation of the river at the off-take point
from the Ganga. It is stated that Ganga was
originally flowing till four centuries back
along Bhagirathi- Hooghly and due to being
silted up at the mouth of Bhaghirathi, Ganga
is now flowing through Padma, which used
to be a minor branch of the Ganga. The
flow in Bhagirathi is, therefore, confined to a
small discharge and this too Vor a maximum
of 60 days in a year at the time of highest
floods in Ganga.

3. The necessity for a barrage across
Ganga to ensure augmentation of headwaters
has been thus accepted and even during the
Partition of India, this fact played a large
part in fixing the boundaries between India
and the then Pakistan in this region.

4. The only question that remained was
with regard to the quantum of water that
should be let down and its duration. Shri Man
Singh’s Expert Committee Report on the
river Hooghly and the improvement of its
headwater supply submitted in October 1952,
fixed the discharge of the feeder canal from
Ganga at 20,000 cusecs (page 56 of the Report).
They observed further : —

Period

January to 15th March
15th March to 15th May
1 5th May to 20th June
20th June to 30th June
July to September

“Different opinions have been expres-
sed regarding the quantity of water which
should be introduced into the Hooghly.
That there is an optimum quantity cannot
be gainsaid. Larger quantities will tend
to erode the banks, bring down a heavy
charge of silt which would tend to create
difficulties in the tidal reaches, while too
little would not reinforce the ebb cur-
rent in the tidal reaches to the extent
which would enable it to carry back the
silt brought up by the tidal inflow. Small-
ness of the scale of the models made it
difficult for the Research Station at Kha-
dakvasla to determine the minimum dry
whether discharge required to maintain
the river in regime.* *

5. Further studies were carried out and
finally the Ganga Barrage Project Report
was prepared in 1959. The cost was estima-
ted at Rs. 56.40 crores. When the Project
came up for approval. Planning Commission
observed as under : —

“The Planning Commission had ac-
cepted the Project as being necessary for
the preservation of the Port of Calcutta
besides its other benefits, on the basis of
general consensus of technical opinion
that the scheme was technically sound,
even in spite of the full suspension of
the withdrawals in periods during March-
May.”

The Ganga Barrage Project, which was
sanctioned by Government of India in April
I960, took note of the various view points
with regard to duration of head discharge
and made provision for the operation cycle
of moderated discharges at Kalna as follows : —

Proposed flow at Kalna
(Cusecs)

40.000 to 20,000

Upto 20,000 (as available)

20.000 to 40,000

40.000 to 60,000

Steady rise from 60,000

upto say, 140,000 and to

80.000 towards the end of

September.

October

November

December

80.000 to 40,000

40.000

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It was also further observed that “The
suggested Operational Programme, based on
the available hydrological data, will have to
be further examined and improved with the
help of more data that will be subsequently
collected and will be tested at the Central
Water and Power Research Station, Poona,
for the optimum effects on the bars and cros-
sings in the Lower Hooghly.**

6. Ganga Barrage was taken up for cons-
truction and the Barrage was completed by
July 1971 and has been providing rail and
road links to North Bengal since then. Most
of the work on the Feeder Canal has been
done and it is expected to be completed by
December 1973 and it is programmed to let
the Ganga water through Feeder Canal into
Bhagirathi early in 1974. It may be noted
from the Operational Programme that it was
proposed to run the Feeder Canal at 40,000
cusecs practically for ten months and for two
months — mid-March to mid-May — with lesser
discharges, upto 20,000 cusecs.

7. In the last few years, controversy
regarding the quantum of water to be let
down into the Feeder Canal during the lean
months of mid-March to mid-May started.
There are two distinct schools of thought.
One group of engineers feel that even for the
two lean months, full discharge of 40,000
cusecs should be allowed to flow as otherwise
the deterioration of the Port cannot be check-
ed. Another group feel that in the two
months the dischaige in the Canal can be
reduced without affecting the health of the
Port. They argue that in view of drainage
congestion, the need to flush Bhagirathi head
by reversing the flow at Jangipur and possibi-
lity of excess bed sediment movement going
down to Port area, the flow in the lean
months should be reduced as envisaged at
the time of the sanction.

The best way of settling the controversy
would be to make observations on the proto-
type, that is, field observations.

8. Ganga carries a flow of 50,000 to
60,000 cusecs during lean months of mid-
March to mid-May, the quantity varying
from year to year. This water is contributed
mostly by Ghagra, Gandak and Kosi, as
other rivers have little discharge during the
lean months. Even main Ganga and Yamuna
do not contribute as irrigation projects on
those rivers as at Hard war, Narora and Taje-
wala and Okhla (Delhi) developed several
decades ago utilise the waters of these tribu-

taries. Ghagra has two tributaries, Sarda and
Karnali. Extensive irrigation has been deve-
loped on Sarda since 1927. It was found
later that the Sarda system did not have
sufficient water to supply water to fields. Most
of the canals were running empty and many
foreign and Indian engineers and economists
observed that the Sarda system required rein-
forcement. Therefore, a scheme was sanctioned
in 1968 which supplies water from the other
tributary of the same river, and the project was
named as Sarda ‘Assist*. No new canal system
is to be constructed but only a feeder canal to
supply water to the various canals constructed
several decades ago.

On Gandak, as a result of several repre-
sentations and investigations, an irrigation
project ‘Gandak Project* was approved in
principle in 1958 to provide irrigation in
Bihar, Nepal and U. P. and is under cons-
truction. t

Similarly on Kosi, an irrigation project
was sanctioned in 1956 to irrigate 15 lakh of
acres on Eastern Canal. This is besides
Western Kosi Canal, which was under discus-
sion with Nepal all along and undertaken
only recently.

As other tributaries of Ganga do not
contribute much to Ganga flow in lean
months of mid-March to mid-May, develop-
ment of irrigation projects on these will not
have any impact on the flow in Ganga during
the two months. These projects essentially
supply water during Kharif season and during
rabi season where stored waters are available.

Thus, it is to be noted that prior to sanc-
tion of Farakka Barrage Project, some pro-
jects were approved to supply irrigation
waters during the lean months. As these
projects have not yet come into full use, the
flow in lean months in Ganga is not yet
affected.

9. Having regard to the doubts expressed
by some people. Government of India wish to
reiterate that Calcutta Port will not be allow-
ed to deteriorate and all the modern techni-
ques of adequate supply of headwater dis-
charge, and optimum dredging of tidal prism,
where necessary, river training measures etc.,
will be fully utilised to ensure the health of
the great Port of Calcutta.

10. A start on the extensive collection of
prototype data has to be made from the com-
mencement of next year (1973) and this will

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continue for a further period of ten years.
These pertain to the river Bhagirathi, tidal
reach above Calcutta, and reach from Cal-
cutta to Mayapur and the river beyond.
These observations will include, taking cross
sections at frequent intervals, discharge mea-
surements, hydrographic survey of the river
throughout the year, analysis of bed load
samples, collection of tidal data, velocity and
silt charge observations, salinity observations,
daily depths on bars and crossings, shifting
of navigation tracks, dredging data and inves-
tigations with sand trap across the river near
Calcutta for the assessment of sediment trans-
port. These will be organised by a study
team under the auspices of the Ministry of
Shipping and Transport, who will co-ordinate
the works of various agencies like the Cal-
cutta Port Commissioners, Centra] Water and
Power Research Station at Khadakvasla, etc.
State of West Bengal will ^Iso participate in
this.

11. Results of model tests in Central
Water and Power Research Station at Poona
show that the discharges given in the original
report of 1959 are found to be satisfactory
but the model tests by the Calcutta Port
Commissioners indicated the requirements of
higher discharges at 40,000 cusecs during
lean months. Due to difficulties of simulation,
model tests, specially for large rivers, have
serious limitations in giving any precise quan-
titative answers to problems and can, at best,
be indicative. It is difficult to quantify precisely
at this stage as to what is the discharge re-
quired to meet the needs of Calcutta Port.
The exact requirements of water are best
determined by observations on the prototype
itself. It is, therefore, decided to adopt the
following procedure for operation of the
Farakka Project :

(a) For five years after water is let down
into the Feeder Canal, the Feeder Canal will
carry the full discharge of 40,000 cusecs
throughout the year including lean months.

(b) The necessary discharge for efficient
functioning of Calcutta Port by continuing
the improvement as a consequence of (a)
will be determined by the team mentioned
in para 10 by observing the effects during the
first five years and subsequent two years when
the discharges will be varied.

(c) Simultaneously with the above, trench
dredging will be carried out above Howrah
bridge in varying degrees, so that the afore-

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said Study Team can observe its effect on
tidal prism and check any heavy movement
of bed sediment on to the port area. The
dredged material may be used for reclamation
work for which schemes would be submitted
by West Bengal Government later on.

(d) After the period of seven years, the
entire position will be reviewed in the light
of reports and observations of the aforesaid
Study Team.

12. In conclusion, it may be stated that
the Government of India fully recognise the
importance of maintaining the navigability of
the Hooghly for the preservation of the Cal-
cutta Port as one of the topmost Indian Ports
and will take all necessary steps to ensure the
same.

It is to be noted that the interest of up-
stream irrigation projects will also be fully
safeguarded.

Finally, it may be stated that legitimate
interests of Bangla Dcsh will be kept in view
and no arrangement made by us will adverse-
ly affect these interests.

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : The hon.
Minister for irrigation and power is reputed
to be very vocal and makes longish statements-
he makes a longish reply to a small question.

I am extremely astonished as to what has
happened to him today. He is not reading
out the statement himself and is taking
shelter under the younger one. I do not want
him to do it.

This statement of the Minister is a narr-
ation of history. Narration of history, in a
way that is also a distortion of facts, suppre-
ssion of facts, evasion of facts. He has conve-
niently chosen certain reports of certain
experts but he has conveniently excluded the
reports of certain international experts and
those experts who were directly connected
with it and whose services were commissioned
by the Government of India. I want to know
why the Minister has chosen to quote exten-
sively from Man Singh’s reports, and not from
Dr. Hansen's report. But there arc reports
of Dr. Hansen, Dr. Dronkard and also by
Dr. Joglekar and also there is the report of
Mr. A. C. Mitra, Chairman of the Technical
Committee of Farakka. What about that ?

I wanted to use a strong word but I want to
desist from doing that.

In a way he has given an impression in

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this House as if there are two opinions, two
schools of thought about determining the
quantum of the discharge of Ganga water
into the proposed feeder canal for the river
Hooghly. He has said that the Poona Institute
had conducted experiments. Also the Hydro-
logical Institute of the Port Commissioners of
Calcutta has also conducted another set of
experiments. I have no time to go into them.
I do not know what is the contradiction.
The Poona Institute has conducted experi-
ments but they have not come to any con-
clusion. It is wrong to say that there are two
schools of thought in determining the quantum
of Ganga water that will be discharged into
the proposed feeder canal.

The international experts whose services
were commissioned for this purpose have
also submitted their report. Instead of making
such a long statement, it would have been
better if the Minister would have come
straightaway to the last page and tell us
what actually he wanted to do

One more submission I want to make.
Before coming to that I want to draw your
attention to one thing. An impression is
being surreptitiously tried to be created as if
the problem of the Calcutta port is the pro-
blem of the State of West Bengal. No, Sir,
it is not a problem of the State. If you
recollect, Sn, the statement of Pandit
Jawaharlal Nehru on the floor of this House,
also said that the task of the preservation of
the port of Calcutta is a great national task.
It is not a State matter. But if you still say
so, I would not call it ‘anti-national’, but I
will call it an a-national or non-national
poser. The Calcutta port is almost facing the
death pangs and it is a national issue. Why
is it a national issue ? Calcutta port was the
first port among the major ports of India
when India became free. Now, in handling
traffic, the position of Calcutta port is rele-
gated to the fourth position. Sir, out of 365
days, ships of 26ft. draft cannot enter for
more than 68 days. For the last 10 years,
every year Rs. 30 crores is spent for dredging
purpose, for filling up the gaps of the deficit
budget of the Calcutta Port and for paying
the capital invested for Farakka Barrage
Project. Problem facing Calcutta Port is a
national problem. It is still a national port.

It still handles 45% of our exports and 31%
of our imports. It earns one-third of our
foreign exchange. It handles the maritime
traffic of whole of Eastern India, namely of
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Pradesh, Bihar, Orissa, Eastern UP, and
West Bengal. It also handles the maritime
traffic of Nepal, Bhutan and Sikkim. There-
fore, Sir, can it be called a State problem ?
Calcutta port is some kind of an ‘Economic
Grid’ for sustaining the economy of the
eastern region of our country.

We should look at it from a national
perspective. 85 per cent of the workers in the
Calcutta port are geographically- speaking,
coming from the other States. On both sides
of the Hooghly, we find that the industries are
owned by men who are geographically from
the other States, not belonging to West
Bengal only. Therefore, it is a national
problem. It is not a State problem.

Sir, it is a seven-page statement that the
hon. Minister has given. It will take some
time for me to elaborate my points. I now
come to the question. For five years, what
will be done ? 40,000 cusecs of water will
be discharged to the feeder canal during all the
months. Then for 2 years variable quantums
of water will the given. Then, after that,
there will be a prototype study regarding the
nature of the vagaries sand bars and sand
prism in the bed of the Hooghly. There is to
be a prototype study like this. In the first
instance, you say; 40,000 cusecs of water will
be given. Then you say, variable quantum
of water will be given for 2 years. May I
know under what reasoning you have come
to this conclusion ? How do you come to the
conclusion that it will be variable ? It is
stated that a prototype study of the move-
ment of sand in the bed of the Hooghly
estuary will be made on the basis of the
finding of the hydraulic study. Now, how
can you determine as to what will be the
necessary quantum of Ganga water ? How
would you know what its effect would be ?
What is the basis on which you can determine
all these things ? .How can you say, this
40,000 cusecs will be for five years and then
variable quantum for two years ? How can
you make the quantity variable ? What is the
basis for these things ? What is the data ?
What is the statistics ?

It is stated that it will take 10 years for a
prototype study of the movement of the sands
of the bed and the vagaries of the Hooghly
river. Without having some data or some
statistics how can you come to any such
conclusion ?

We know so many schemes about the
use of the surface water in the Upper Gan-

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[Shri Samar Guha]

getic Region. Is it not a fact that the G. S.

I. has made some elaborate hydrological
study of this region ? Have they not pointed
out certain things regarding the use of the
under- ground water in the northern region ?
Did they not say that the over-use of the
surface water may lead to the massive alkali
infestation as in the Thar region of Pakistan,
as also already manifest in Etawah and in
the Upper Gangetic region ? Will not overuse
of this surface water make alkali infestation
possible and make large areas of cultivable
land in the upper regions unusable ? Why
do you not make use of the hydrological
data ? Why do you use the surface water,
when under-ground water can be used by
means of tube-wells, and open wells system ?

If this is done, there will be two things which
will happen. Firstly, it can protect the area
from the possible massive alkali infestation of
cultivable land. Secondly, it will help to
conscive the Ganga water for keeping the
flow between Allahabad and Patna and also
for discharge of Ganga water for the Farakka
feeder canal.

Now, I shall conclude by putting a few
pointed questions. I want to know fiom the
hon. Minister (a) whether 40,000 cusces of
water will be ensured for ten years by which
time the piototype studies on the effect of such
water discharge will be completed and the
findings assessed and the statistics assessed for
fresh determination of quantum of water (b)
whether a high-powered agency will be
formed to ensure discharge of 40,000 cusccs of
water throughout the year as indicated by
the hon. Minister, (c) whether a scientific
study will be made about the possibility of using
underground water or ground waters since a
study was made by the Geological Survey of
India to find out alternative sources of water
for irrigation purposes and also to save the
Upper Gangetic region from alkali infesta-
tion and thus conserve the water ultimately
for flushing out the lower region of the
Hooghly, and whether a task cell will be set
up to tackle all the problems like the deficiency
in the earth excavation equipment of the
barrage and also the dilatory tactics of the
feeder canal contractor as also the labour
trouble there ? The time-schedule for the
completion was 1970, but I fear that it may
not be completed even by 1973, because it
will be humanly impossible to excavate
35 crorcs c.ft. of earth at the rate of 18 crores
c.ft. per year ; because of the deficiency in
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do more than 12 crores c.ft. per year. There-
fore, canal work may not be completed before
1975, unless Government take it up seriously
and form a separate cell and tackle the whole
problem on an emergency basis.

THE MINISTER OF IRRIGATION
AND POWER (DR. K. L RAO) : I would
like to submit that most of the points that
th? hon. Member has mentioned were all
considered very carefully. I would like to
submit that the statement contains a very
clear indication of the water that will be let
down and the period for which it will be let
down. I am very pietty certain that the
experiment that we are going to do will
leave us veiy valuable lessons Government
have assured the House in the last para of
the statement that the preservation of the
port of Calcutta is the major objective of the
Government of India, and they will do all in
their power to save this port which is a very
valuable one and which is one of the topmost
ports of our countiy I did not follow the
other points that the hon. Member made.
But in regard to ground water, I would like
to submit that we know that the Ganga basin
has got the best undet ground watci in the
whole world, and we arc exploiting it fully.
Already, there aie 15,000 tube-wells and we
shall have to exploit more and more this
ground water. This is one of the alternatives
that we ate thinking For, after all, the whole
trouble is in the lean months when the dis-
charge of water is very little and it is not very
much compared with the water that the river
rarries, which would be 400 million acre-fret ;
so, all this trouble is due to about 2 million
acre-feet. Therefore, we are already thinking
of various alternatives. One of the alternatives
being thought of is the exploitation of ground
water in the Gangetic basin.

Then, the hon. Member has said that it
cannot be completed by 1973 but it will be
completed only by 1975. I do not know on
what basis he has said it. Contractors and
department together are doing about 18 crores
c ft. every year. The balance of work is
about 26 crores c.ft. What actually happened
in the past was this. The statement contains
very clearly the reasons for the delay that has
been there. One reason is that in 1971 we
could not do much because the Ganga had
sustained floods, and, therefore, the working
season was very small and that was why only
half the work could be done. We expect that
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have the full working season and we expect
over 20 crores c.ft. to be cleared in the work-
ing season, and after the working season is
over, another 6 crores c ft. so that the whole
canal will be completed. We hope that unless
something adverse occurs, it will be possible
to complete it. We have gone over this
matter very carefully, namely the question of
trying to complete it, and we hope that it
will be possible to complete it by Decem-
ber, 1973 and we could let down in the
feeder canal early in 1974.

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : My other ques-
tions have not been answered. Hon’blc Minis-
ter has not indicated how 10,000 cusecs of
water will be ensured for ten years, because
he has said that it would take ten years to
make the prototype studies and then the
position would be re-exarnmed.

DR. K L. RAO : I have already ex-
plained very clearly in the statement that the
period is not ten years, but seven years In
the first five years we will let down about
40,000 cusecs.

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : Ten yeais is
for making a study and fresh determination of
the quantum of waki that will be discharged.

DR. K. L. RAO : We thought seven
years would be sufficient. In five yeais, we
will be able to know the effect of it. There
arc both adverse cffei is and also favourable
effects. It is not as if we are 1< tting down
40,000 cusecs in the entire seven year period.
Wc have a lot of training woik to do. Wc
are going to do the experiment in seven vears.
By that time we will have a sufficient indica-
tion as to what should be done.

I have submitted already that the preserva-
tion of the Calcutta poit is a most important
objective of Government. They will ensure
that this will be achieved.

SHRI B K. DASCHOWDHURY (Cooch-
Behar) : In the course of his long statement
in reply to the call attention, the hon. Minis-
ter has, I must say at the outset, in paragraph
11 given us to a certain extent temporal y
relief, which will give partial relief to the
people of Bengal, will help in the preserva-
tion of the Calcutta Port and will also help to
to preserve the whole national interest. For
this, thanks arc due to the timely intervention
of our respected leader, the Prime Minister,
and also, the able leadership of the Chief
Minister of West Bengal who in future years
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Bengal. Unfortunately, the hon. Minister has
failed to mention in his statement the discus-
sions he has had with the Chief Minister of
West Bengal along with his Cabinet colleague,
the Minister of Irrigation of West Bengal,
and also with the Prime Minister. The im-
pression has been created that he seems to be so
much sympathetic to the cause of Bengal and
eastern India and also the Calcutta Port. But
in giving out this impression, the hon. Minis-
ter has drafted the statement in such a way
that it is nothing but an attempt to hoodwink
the people. If I were to go into details, it
would take a long time and I would not be in
a position to conclude within the short span
of time available to me.

The hon. Minister has referred to the Man
Singh Committee Report of 1952. He has
also quoted from it. May I ask simultaneously
this question. Even after the 1952 recom-
mendations of thc» Man Singh Committee, was
not the project for the preservation of
Calcutta Port discussed and financial sanction
accorded to it ? Thai being so, is this
reference not a device to hoodwink the whole
country, particularly the people of Bengal and
eastern India?

13. hrs.

Secondly, the hon. Minister has failed in
his duty by presenting a twisted version of
what the Planning Commission has remarked
that even in spite of the full suspension of
withdrawals during the lean period, the pro-
ject is very sound and is accepted as necessary.
To put the matter straight, is it not a fact
that even after this clarification by the Plann-
ing Commission or whatever it is, this Parlia-
ment gave sanction m 1962 for the total
project with the idea that there must be a
discharge to the extent of 40,000 cusecs
throughout the year ? To put it shortly, I
would simply refer to the Estimates Commit-
tee’s report presented in April 1970 where it
is stated in paia 1. 2 :

“The project after completion will
enable the diversion of 40,000 cubic
feet per second of water fiorn the
Ganga to the Bhagirathi. This, with
the normal discharges going down the
Bhagirathi when the level of Ganga is
high, will set right the hydraulic
balance of the bores in the Hooghly
and check the threat posed to the
ports. • . .”

In the action-taken report submitted by the
ministry laid on the Table of the House in

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July 197J, nothing has been challenged, I
mean the observations referred to by the hon.
Members of the Estimates Committee, nothing
has been challenged. Here we find the hon.
Minister has been quoting certain conditions
here and there which give the impression that

20.000 cusecs will be enough or may be so.
In his statement he also said in para 10 of the
statement : a technical committee will go
through the model study and on the basis of
the report only it is to be found out what is
the required quantum of the discharge of
water to rejuvenate and resuscitate the Cal-
cutta port. I also ask my third question.
There have been a number of Committees and
commissions ? and some were invited even
by Dr. K. L. Rao and they said that it
had been decided that nothing less than

40.000 cusecs of water would be required to
rejuvenate and resuscitate Calcutta port, to
make it alive. It was contained in the expert
committee report of Dr. Henscn who put his
signature and seal in May 1957. My fourth
question : will the Minister be good enough
to put down in the Lok Sabha the entire
report of Dr. Henscn which he submitted to
the ministry concerned along with the experts
Dr. Drunkard and Dr. Joglekar, expert on
liver research scheme m Poona and chairman
of the special cell in the Farakka project.
A C Mitter ? If all these things are laid on
the Table, the whole situation would have
been clcaicd

He brought foilh argument to give the
impression that 20,000 cusecs of water would
be enough because certain projects taken up
in the upper reaches of the Ganga ought to
be implemented and the programme, as it has
been, sanctioned. Mention has been made
of Gandak, Kosi and Sarda projects. Will the
hon. Minister clarify whether the Kosi project,
Gandak project that were sanctioned prior to
1960 ? Was it not sanctioned later on? Will the
hon. Minister lay down a white paper giving
all these projects, major and minor, 34 major
and 170 minor ; these have been sanctioned
even against the vehement opposition of the
State Government of West Bengal, whether it is
a fact or not ? Not only this. I have every regard
for the hon. Minister. I have heard ; I would
wish the hon. Minister to clarify this point.
Even when Dr. Hcnsen submitted a report
that nothing less than 40,000 cusecs would
be required for the preservation of the Cal-
cutta port, I am told that Dr. Henscn, a
hydraulic expert, a German expert who was
invited to go through all the model studies,

was asked : could you not bring it down to

20,000 cusecs ? As a result Dr. Hcnsen was
so much agitated, he felt very much insulted
What followed ? Dr. Hensen refused to accept
a lunch arranged in his honour. He replied :
in a country where scientist's views are being
dishonoured in such a way for political mano-
uvres action it is better not to have lunch.
There is an impression. I do not know whe-
ther it is true or not. It is better to clarify.
I know the details which sort of lunch was
arranged. It is true that dredging has been
going on increasing from 75 lakhs a year to 7.5
crores. Ten times. It is true that the sanc-
tioned amount for Farakka Barrage has gone-
up by 180 per cent, as referred to by the Esti-
mates Committee, from Rs. 56 crores to
Rs. 156 crores. As a result, what happened ?
The high tidal bore which was normally before
1947 to the extent of 2 to 3 feet, has got so
strengthened and so voluminous that it rises
up to 6 or 7 feet and it carries with it inflow
of water, but it cannot outflow because the
pressure in Hooghly is not very much. As days
go by, silt formation is going up and up. It
is feared that even after this model test, after
1979 or 1989, the cusecs of Ganga water that
would be required to be discharged would be
much more than 40,000.

In conclusion, I want to know along with
these six questions — they are short questions —
will he make a prohibition order restricting
hence forward that there should be no project
with any pseudonym — people do not even
understand the names of the projects ; there
are such a large number of them, more than
200, big and smill projects— no such schemes
will be approved by the Central Water and
Power Commission unless it has been consi-
dered by this technical committee, under sec-
tion 10 of this report. Will he also consider,
as pointed out by this Commission, the upper
reaches of Ganga river where the ground
waters are available in sufficient quantities,
because of which certain lands are not being
fit for cultivation because of their marshy
nature and will he consider taking these
resources from the ground water ? All these
things will end the matter. He should look
into the fact that Calcutta Port is not for
West Bengal alone but it is in the national
interest. With that end in view, he should
not misguide the whole nation.

DR. K. L. RAO : Most of the points
raised have been covered by the statement I
have made and I request the hon. member
to read the statement more carefully. I do

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not want to enter into any controversy because
I am very happy that we have had a very
useful discussion with the Chief Minister of
West Bengal and Irrigation Minister over the
week-end. We spent a considerable number
of hours over this difficult problem. I am
sorry the hon. member has attributed motives
that I claim originality for this. I do not
add their names because I have not taken
their signatures. It is also not fair to take
their signatures. In fact, he did not authorise
me nor did I ask for it. In the absence of the
signature, I could not refer to it.

The hon. member seems to know more
about the lunch engagement of Dr. Hensen.
It was a private lunch in my house, not a
public lunch. Dr. Hensen not only came to
the lunch but brought a beautiful set of
flowers. This is all due to some cock and bull
story given by some engineers who have been
dismissed.

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : Prima
facie it seems there arc certain stories about
it.

DR. K. L. RAO : There are always lots
of stories in Calcutta.

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : I strongly pro-
test against this objectionable remark. The
question js whether the points raised by these
engineers merit attention or not. They are
not in this House to defend themselves and I
strongly protest against this remark that they
have been given by dismissed engineers.

DR. K. L. RAO : I said it because it
was a wrong statement made by the hon.
member. It was a private lunch, not at
Ashoka Hotel or anywhere else ; it was in my
own house. I invited Dr. Hensen because he
was known to me for years. I knew him long
before he came for the Calcutta port. I had
been to Hanover many years before. When
he came here, I naturally invited him for a
lunch. He came, as I said, with a lot of beau-
tiful flowers. In Fact I even said “Why do
you bring so many flowers'*.

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : Is it
a fact that Dr. Hensen did not take even a
cup of water ? . . . . ( interruptions )

DR. K. L. RAO : The hon. Member
seems to have been at that time .... (interrup-
tions). It is very unfortunate these things
should have been brought out.

But the most important thing is this.

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Neither Dr. Hensen, nor Dronker was invited
for the second time by us. Dr. Hensen came
at the invitation of the Port Commissioners,
as also Dr. Dronker was not called for this
project. He was asked for the outer harbour,
for the Haldia project. The Port Commis-
sioners seem to have asked him this question.
They have given some information that we
have got. We have got two pages, not signed
pages, wherein they say that his opinion was
asked for and “we agree with that”. Dr.
Hensen’s first report very categorically states
of 20,000 cusecs .... ( interruptions )

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : It is not correct

MR. SPEAKER : He is speaking with
out my permission. If he continues like that,
nothing will go on record. I do not know
how to deal with this gentlemen. He must
maintain certain discipline. He cannot get

up any time he wants

DR. K. L. RAO : I want to avoid any
controversy. I do not want to say anything
further except to say on the irrigation projects
in the upper basin area that the area that is
irrigated in the Ganga Basin consisting of
several States is hardly 24 per cent in spite of
the fact they have got the best water resour-
ces. That is why wc said the up-stream
irrigation projects will be safeguarded. That
is what the statement says

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : Is it
a fact that there are 31 major irrigation. . . .

MR. SPEAKER : AH of you are beating
each other in one thing, in making these
interruptions. Already we are very late and
behind the schedule.

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : The
West Bengal Government protested because
these projects will hamper the progress of the
Farakka barrage project and the improvement
of the Calcutta port. Is it a fact that 34
major and 170 minor irrigation projects were
sanctioned even in the teeth of the opposition
of the West Bengal Government without
consulting the Ganga Brahmaputra Flood
Control Commission ?

MR. SPEAKER : I think he has made
it very clear.

DR. K. L. RAO : The irrigation poten-
tial so far developed in the up-stream area is
very little. But the sanction of a large number
of projects there does not even in the least

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[Dr. K. L. Rao]

effect Farakka. I have made this very clear
in the statement.

If the Ramganga project is taken up, it
does not contribute at all in any way for the
two lean months. The only concerned rivers
are Gagra, Gandak and Kosi. Everything is
contained in that statement.

DR. RANEN SEN (Barasat) : On the 31st
of March this year Dr. Rao placed a state-
ment on the Table of both Houses, the con-
tents of which we find on page 3 of the state-
ment. Here he has stated in short that it
is neither desirable, nor possible, to give more
than 20,000 cusecs of water foi the river
Bhagirathi. Today he makes the statement
we saw also in the newspapers his agreement
with Shri Siddhartha Shankar Ray — that
40,000 cusecs will be available throughout the
year for the river Bhagirathi. I do not know
whether he is a magician or not. When he
made the statement that 20,000 cusecs will be
needed and will be supplied, and not more
than that, he knew the opinions of Dr. Hensen
Dr. Dronkhurst, Dr. Joglekar of Khadakvasla
Institute and Shri A. G. Mitra of Uttar
Pradesh. Still he made that statement. By
making that statement, one purpose was
served. I do not know whether he deliberately
did it or not. Bengal was pitted against
Bihar ; U. P. was pitted against Bengal.
There was no trouble between Bengal and
Bihar, no trouble between Bengal and U. P.
We are peaceful citizens living as good
neighbours. Only when he made that state-
ment, all these questions cropped up in Bengal,
Bihar and U. P. He is responsible for that.
He made a very serious statement.

Not only that. Even before that, on the
26th June, he made a statement in the
Calcutta Raj Bhavan he found no other place
to make a statement — which will be offending
to the feelings of the people of Calcutta. It is
the same statement that not more than 20,000
cusecs of water will be available.

Now, in this statement, he says it will be
available for seven years. Before stating that
in the statement, he also dug up, as pointed
out by many hon. Members, the Man Singh
Committee Report of 1952. After all these
things, a very well-known Engineer, well-known
to Dr. Rao, Mr. Devesh Mukerjee, made a
statement in the press that nowhere, when he
was the General Manager of the Farakka
Barrage, there was any mention of any diffe-
rence of opinion. He is the person who was exto-

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lied by Dr. Rao himself as one of the foremost
river Engineers that India has produced. He
said that nobody knew about this thing, there
was no serious difference of opinion. Today,
in this statement, the hon. Minister mentions
about the Man Singh Committee Report.

I do not know who was Mr. Man Singh. I
do not want to make a long statement.

I simply say that this whole thing, his
statement, is shrouded in mystery. In May
and June, he made a statement that no more
than 20,000 cusecs of water will be available.
Now, in the middle of August, he makes a
statement that it is available for seven years
and then certain studies will be made.

I want to know which statement is correct,
today’s statement or the statement that he
made in this House on the 3 1st May this year.
Therefore, as I said, the whole thing is
shrouded in mystery. I am afraid, this will
lead Bengalis-Biharis fighting for water as has
been the case with Narmada water and
Cauvcry water. I want to know specifically
categorically from the hon. Minister whether
the formula that he had given earlier in this
House which is embodied in the statement on
p. 3, has been given up at least for the
coming seven years.

Secondly, I want to know the reason why
the construction of this feeder canal has been
delayed. In January, 1968, Dr. Rao will
recollect that there was a Consultative Com-
mittee meeting where he invited many of us.

I was also there. The feeder canal was being
dug in those days. Now he speaks of the
labour trouble. The labour trouble was much
more in Farakka Barrage than in the case of
the feeder canal. Why was it not completed
by 1971 ? According to him, it is to be
completed by 1973. Where is the guarantee ?
This delay in the construction of feeder
canal, according to the Farakka Barrage
authorities, is causing a loss of Rs. 6 crores
every year as interest charges. Who is going
to pay ? It is the public Exchequer. Why
should the public pay ? So, I want a
guarantee from him. It is not simply saying,
( T do not find any reason why it should not
be completed.’* Can he give us a guarantee
in this House today that by the end of 1973,
the feeder canal will be constructed and that,
if for that purpose any other agency is to
be set up or brought in, that will be done ?

Thirdly, I want to know about this investiga-
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Mr. Samar Guha raised to which Dr. Rao
has not answered. By whom was the investiga-
tion done and how the investigation will be
done after seven years or after five years ?
All this is in the statement. How will the
other elements who are interested in the
development of the Calcutta Port be taken
into confidence ? What will be the machinery
to do that ? These are the three questions.

DR. K. L. RAO : I did not want to
make any statement in the last session.
What happened was that the hon. Speaker
told me that the hon. members from West
Bengal insisted that I should make a state-
ment. That is why I had to make a
statement.

Farakka project is a sanctioned project
approved in I960 by the Ministry of Shipping
and Transport to which this project belongs.
This project does not belong to the Ministry
of Irrigation and Power ; that has nothing to
do with it, neither with the power aspect nor
with the irrigation aspect. This is the project
of the Ministry of Transport and Shipping.
They asked us to do the works. The figure
that I have given has been quoted from page
56 of the sanctioned project report. The hon.
Member may see that. I have no authority to
change it. What I gave was exactly the
amount laid down for different months in the
sanctioned project.

A lot of emotion was created. The Chief
Minister of West Bengal wanted to discuss this.
Wc had a lot of discusssions. We find that,
in the next five years, it will be possible for
us to allow 40,000 cusecs of water. Every-
thing has been covered in the statement. We
want to setth* this controversy by field
experiments. The controversy about 40,000
cusecs of water being required relates to
those two lean months ; it is not a question
of ten months. Some feel that 20,000 cusecs
of water will do for those two months. We
have yet to take observation. We have got to
make observations on the prototype and not
on the models. That is why we have said
that it is a very useful and scientific investiga-
tion. The hon. Member asked who will do
the investigation. That has also been given
in the statement. The investigation will be
done by the Ministry of Shipping and Trans-
port who is responsible for that. They will
have a study team. The study team will
consist of the Port Commissioners of Calcutta
Central Water and Power Research Station,
Khadakvasla, West Bengal Government, and

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any others that the Ministry of Transport and
Shipping may consider necessary. That is
why they have said, ‘etc.*. The investigation
will be done by them.

The other question was about the delay.
I am surprised the hon. Member is asking
this question. It is one of the most difficult
projects in the world. The canal’s width is
far greater than the width of the Suez Canal ;
its width is 490 ft. as against the width of the
Suez Canal of 200 ft. It has got so many
engineering difficulties. Moreover, this project
was started in 1965. The canal was construc-
ted quite remarkably. We are going to do it
in eight years. The hon. members may
recall that the Rajasthan Canal has been
going on for the last 15 years and yet, we
are no where near completion. This project
involves a large amount of work. ( Interruption )
The reasons for the delay have been given.
In 197 i there were heavy floods. The whole
area was flooded. 'She working season was
little. One of the most important reasons is
labour unrest in 1969. The hon. Member
referred to Mr. Debesh Mukherjee who was
my friend though he differs from me now.
The General Manager told me— he complained
very bitterly about this unrest — , ‘Dr. Rao, my
driver drives the car at a speed of five kilometres
per hour ; I want to get down and walk, but
he does not allow me to walk ; what is this
trouble. He was the General Manager in
1969. I did not want to quote all these
things. The hon. members must know that
I have the privilege of being associated with
this project for long ; perhaps nobody else,
no other engineer, has been so long associated
with this as I have been. I have been associa-
ted right from the beginning, right from the
first step- when it was investigated and what
has to be done and so on, as early as 1955.
It will be one of my privileges to see that this
project functions and objectively works in the
way we wanted.it. No engineer in this world
would say that once the project is designed
and constructed, he will not see the fruits
thereof. Therefore, the hon. Members are
unnecessarily attributing motives.

The situation i9 difficult. There are three
possibilities. It is all given in the report.
Also I want to tell the hon. Members that the
interests of the country do not lie in putting
one State against the other or one project
against the other. We are not interested in
one particular project. We want to develop
the whole country. I want to submit very
dearly that we want to take irrigation potential

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of this region from 24% as early as possible,
in the next ten yean. After all, the problem is
not hopeless. It is of an intricate nature, we
will be able to find a solution. We will be
able to achieve all the three objectives that
have been mentioned in the last page of this
statement.

SHRI B. K. D ASGHOWDH URY : I want
to make one thing clear.

Nobody desires that there should not
be any development projections. All the
development projections should be there.

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16, 1972 Govt, to complete Farakka 340
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DR. K. L. RAO : With regard to Bangla
Desh, it has been made clear in the statement
that the legitimate interests of Bangla Desh
will be taken into account and I am pretty
certain that the great neighbouring country
of Bangla Desh and ourselves will be able to
sort out the various problems connected with
this.

With regard to the other question, about
delay, I have already made it clear.
I am not expecting any more delay
in this project. There may be delays in the
completion, by one or two months, but that
is nothing. In a big and magnificent project
like this, the like of which has not been done
anywhere else in the world, nature plays a
large part. Nature could have easily obstruc-
ted us more but we are prepared for many
more difficulties. We saved Rs. 10 crorefl
because of nature’s gift. We have been able
to do the work in about 8 years. This took
us from 1963 to 1971, that is, 8 years. We
have done this magnificent work, The canal
was a bit late when we started because we
were engaged in the difficult job of the bar-
rage and so the work of the canal was started
late in 1965. We are hoping to complete it
by 1973. I don’t want to say anything else,
so that hon. Members may not get angry
with me later on. I wish the same speed and
the same quickness is given in respect of
the other projects in the States themselves.

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : I will be the
first to congratulate you, if you can complete
it by 1973,

341 Failure of SRAVANA 25,

DR. K. L. RAO : I can assure the hon.
Member this. If there is no labour problem,
it will be completed by 1 973.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Lakhs of
workers of U. P. and Bihar are there. .

MR. SPEAKER : You have one leg in
Bengal and another leg in U.P.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I am proud
of U. P. They have elected a Bengalee. They
are not parochial. I know that lakhs of
people from U. P. and Bihar have gone to
Bengal in search of jobs. We want that all
the industries in Bengal, especially Calcutta
port, must be restored to their normal con-
dition. Every lady used to sing ;

^r, i It was sung by

every girl. Because, people used to go to Bengal
Desh.

In his statement the hon. Minister has
assured the people of U. P. and Bihar that
there will be no shortage of water in U. P.
and Bihar for the kharif season. We are told
that the sub-soil water can be tapped for
irrigation in the Gangctic valley. Previously,
Dr. Rao used to say that attempts will be made
to have Ganga- Brahmaputra project. Now he
says attempts will be made for Ganga-Gauvery
project. I don’t know why this diversion has
come about. He is an engineer, I am not.

In case the Ganga-Brahmaputra canal has
come about, it would have benefited practi-
cally most of these States, especially those States
which were suffeiing because of the power
shortage and water shortage. About Gandak
project it has been stated that this will bene-
fit Bihar, Nepal, U.P. etc. This is under
construction since 1958. In view of the con-
troversy over Gangetic water from Farrakka,

I wish to submit that all these controversies
must stop. 40,000 cusecs of water to be sup-
plied to Farrakka, for revival of the Calcutta
port is in our interest and for the people of
U.P. and no further dispute should arise.
But, Dr. Rao’s statement has created some
controversies, some imaginary and some real,
among the people of UP., Bihar and Bengal.
Mr. Daschowdhury congratulated Chief
Minister of Bengal and said, he will be known
as Bhagirath. Sir, no further dispute should
arise between the three States. They must
live like neighbours. I wish to ask him one
important question : Will the hon. Minister
agree to set up a Control Board ? I know,
this was envisaged previously. May I know
whether a control board will be set up con-
sisting of the representatives of Bengal, U. P.

1894 (SAKA) Gaol, to complete Farakka 342
Barrage (C. A.)

and Bihar so that all disputes might be sett-
led by mutual consultations then and there
and the people of Bengal would not have to
issue a statement against U. F» We could
include all the three chief Ministers in the
control board ? And also Members of Par-
liament and experts from all the three States
to resolve any dispute which may arise in
future. I would like to know whether such a
central board or control board is likely to be
established.

I would also like to know why the Ganga-
Brahmaputra canal has been given up in
favour of the Ganga-Cauvery link. What is
good in the Cauvery which is not there in
the Brahmaputra ? I have seen all the rivers,
but I do not know their virtues and vices. So,
I would like to know from the hon. Minister
why the Ganga-Brahmaputra canal has been
given up.

DR. K. L. RA0 : The Ganga-Brahma-
putra canal is very much in our mind.
Actually, it is one of the projects which we
think is all very vital, but so far we have not
comeout with execution, because we have to
clear the problems of the Bangla Desh region
through which the canal passes.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE ; Now, that is
possible.

DR. K. L RAO : For obvious reasons
wc cannot make any statement about it like
that. I am sure hon. Members will find that
in all our statements, wc have only used the
phrase diversions from the neighbouring basins.
The Ganga basin has got to be and may be
assisted in some respects by division from
neighbouring basins. That is the statement
that hon. Members will find all along. The
neighbouring basin is the Brahmaputra basin.

I would submit once again that the Ganga-
Cauvery will be greatly assisted and would
become greatly' valuable by the diversion
from the Brahmaputra. In fact, it is in the
interests of the Ganga-Gauvery link that the
Brahmaputra link must come. I do not want
to expatiate on it and go too much into this
subject, because I do not want to go into
further details at this stage, since we have
not yet cleared it with the great country,
Bangla Desh, many other details and so on; we
have not even discussed it. So, I would leave
it at that.

I want to assure the hon. Member that
we want to connect not only these two
rivers, but our object is, and in fact, that

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[Dr. K. L. Rao]

is the modern technique throughout the whole
world, and in fact, the best technique for
India or the next decade or the next century
will be to link up the waters so that the rivers
with surplus water could be linked up with
rivers with less water which supply deficit
areas and thus there could be exchange of
water from one river to the other. This is the
main thing. The Brahmaputra is one river
whose waters are not used at all. Practically
no water from that river is used. So, it will
be a great source of water for us. It will be,
therefore, our endeavour to use its waters.
Almost all the modern techniques will be used
and will be pressed into service to see that
we arc able to use the waters of the Brahma-
putra to the maximum extent for the service
of India.

The hon. Member had suggested the set-
ting up of a control board Thcic are already
the zonal councils at whfLh these are discus-
sed. Any way, the hon. Member’s suggestion
is a veiy good suggestion, since West Bengal
belongs to one zonal council and U.P.
belongs to another. So, we can create a body
where the whole Ganga basin could be re-
presented. We shall consider this suggestion.

13.39 hrs.

RE. PRESENTATION OF TAMRA-PAT-
RAS TO FREEDOM-FIGHTERS

MR. SPEAKER ; Now we shall take up
the next item of business.

SHRI N. SREEKANTAN NA1R
(Quilon) : I seek your permission to raise an
important matter, and I have already written
to you also seeking your permission to raise
the question about the Tainra-patras which
have been presented to the freedom-fighters.
Tanira-patias have been presented to those
people who have never seen the inside of
a prison. I want to raise this question, beca-
use as you would agree, it is a question of
national importance. It is an insult to the
freedom-fighters on the one side that these
Tamra- patras should have been given to per-
sons who have never been inside a prison,
and secondly it is an insult to the other regi-
onal languages which have been listed in the
Constitution, to have the inscription only
in Hindi and then give it.

SHRI K. MANOHARAN (Madras
North) : Please permit me to say a few

words on this matter ? I shall conclude with-
in a minute, after saying something regarding
the issue raised by my hon. friend Shri N.
Sreekantan Nair.

MR. SPEAKER : I am sorry.

SHRI K. MANOHARAN: On behalf
of my Party, we offer our felicitations to the
freedom fighters. That is one thing. The
second is that they have come from all over
the country, from all the States. But the
tamra patra given to them is inscribed only in
Hindi, which is against the Constitution. The
Constitution has recognised two languages as
official languages, one Hindi and the other
English. Unfortunately, the freedom fighters
from Tamil Nadu, fiom Orissa and from
Bengal cannot read anything inscribed on it. I
think this is an indirect way of encroaching
upon the domain of the non-Hindi-speaking
areas. The freedom fighters from these areas
arc insulted . . ( Interruptions ), absolutely insulted.

MR. SPEAKER : Please sit down. There
should be no conti oversy over this. I had no
intimation from him about this.

SHRI K. MANOHARAN : I sa>, this is
a calculated and cunning move to infiltrate
into the non-Hindi-speaking domain, I warn
the Hindi-speaking people that if they
systematically adopt this attitude, history will
later call them as people who are disintegrat-
ing this gieat country. This matter should not
be taken very lightly. You in your wisdom
have already given directions to the House so
many times that both Hindi and English
should be used.

MR. SPEAKER : I should have had
some intimation that he wanted to raise this
matter.

SHRI K. MANOHARAN : I would
request you at least to convey our feelings
that if this is allowed to continue in future, I
do not know what will happen. This is my
warning.

13.42 hrs.

RE. BUSINESS OF THE HOUSE

MR. SPEAKER : The call attention
motion has already taken one hour. I am
very sorry that the Ministers who have to lay
papers on the Table, a formal business, have
to keep sitting for such a long time.

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Papers Laid

346

SHRI N. K. P. SALVE (Betul) : Arc
we any less close to your heart, Sir ?

AN HON. MEMBER : We are also
members and are sitting.

MR. SPEAKER : I am thinking of just
altering the order of the agenda so that the
business of laying Papers on the Table should
be over before the calling attention motion is
taken up, so that Ministers may be free to be
in the Rajya Sabha on business. Today there
is also a statement to be made by a Minister.
They have to go to the other House and
then come running here when we have not
finished the call attention. This leads to
suspense. So the items Papers to be laid on
the Table and also Statements by Ministers,
will come earlier so that they can go to the
other House or do something else. Then we
will take up the call attention motion.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEK (Kanpur) :
This should be referred to the Rules Com-
mittee.

MR. SPEAKER : You can discuss it.

SHRI S. M BANERJEE: Supposing
there is a controversial item, wc would like to
ask for some clarifications.

MR. SPEAKER : For that, of course, we
will give time. Only non-conti oversial items
will be freed. The point is that the Ministers
keep waiting and waiting and wc cut into the
lunch hour also. I hope the House will agree
with me that what 1 have suggested is the
correct thing to do.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: Let it be
referred to the Rules Committee.

MR. SPEAKER : There is no use. . . .

SHRI S. M, BANERJEE: There are
many complications. Today is an extra-
ordinary day.

MR. SPEAKER : The Rajya Sabha has
the same procedure.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : You are
hungry, I am hungry, everyone is hungry.

MR. SPEAKER : It is not a question of
being hungry. The call attention motion takes
a long time and all the time the Ministers
keep waiting. Just to save time, I have pro-
posed that the business of laying Papers on
the Table and Statements by Ministers may
come earlier— they can be disposed of in a

few minutes — and then we can take up at
leisure the call attention motion. There is
nothing very wrong about it.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE ; It is a ques-
tion of giving precedence.

MR. SPEAKER s The Rajya Sabha is
the same.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : What will
happen to this ; first, there will be adjourn-
ment motion, then no-confidence motion,
then call attention motion or even obituary
reference.

MR. SPEAKER : We have to bring
about certain improvements.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : I am only
protecting your interest. Otherwise, they
will trouble you a lot.

MR. SPEAKER : I am seeking everyone’s
goodwill and protection at evety time. I
actually do not know what bombshell may
drop at what tune.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Kindly refer
it to the Rules Committee.

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : If you do
this, it will become very monotonous.

AN HON. MEMBER : When he is there.
Will it be monotonous ?

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : I accept
the compliment.

13.45 hrs.

PAPERS LAID ON THE TABLE

Reviews and Annual Reports of Hindustan
Housing Factory, Ltd. and N.B.C.C., Ltd.,
New Delhi

THE MINISTER OF WORKS AND
HOUSING AND HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING (SHRI UMA SHANKAR DIK-
SHIT) : I beg to lay on the Table a copy each
of the following papers (Hindi and English
versions) under sub-section (1) of section 619A
of the Companies Act, 1956 : —

(1) (i) Review by the Government on
the working of the Hindustan
Housing Factory Limited, New
Delhi, for the year 1970-71.

(ii) Annual Report of the Hindustan
Housing Factory Limited, New

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[Shri Uma Shankar Dikshit]

Delhi, for the year 1970-71 along
with the Audited Accounts and
the comments of the Comptroller
and Auditor General thereon.
[Placed in Ltbraay See No. LT —
3361/72]

(2) (i) Review by the Government on
the working of the National
Buildings Construction Corpo-
ration Limited, New Delhi, for
the year 1970-71.

(li) Annual Report of the National
Buildings Construction Corpo-
ration Limited, New Delhi, for
the year 1970-71 along with the
Audited Accounts and the comm-
ents of the Comptroller and
Auditor General thereon.

[Placed in Library. See No. LT— 3362/72].

Notifications under High Court Judges

Conditions of Service Act, 1954

THE MINISTER OF LAW AND JUS-
TICE AND PETROLEUM AND CHEMI-
CALS (SHRI H. R. GOKHALE) : I beg to
lay on the Table a copy each of the following
Notifications (Hindi and English versions)
under sub-section (3) of section 24 of the
High Court Judges (Conditions of Service)
Act, 1954 : —

(1) The High Court Judges (Amendment)
Rules, 1972. published in Notification
No. G. S. R. 336 (E) in Gazette of
India dated 12th July, 1972.

(2) The High Court Judges Travelling
Allowance (Amendment) Rules, 1972,
published m Notification No. G. S. R.
841 in Gazette of India dated the
22nd July, 1972.

[Placed in Library . See No. LT— 3363/72].

Punjab Motor Vehicles (Chandigarh
Amendment) Rules, 1971 etc.

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMENTARY
AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND TRANS-
PORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) : I beg to
lay on the Table —

(1) A copy of the Punjab Motor Vehicles
(Chandigarh Amendment) Rules, 1971
(Hindi and English versions) publi-
shed in Notification No. 11935 — HII
(2)/7 1/29 169 in Chandigarh Adminis-
tration Gazette dated the 1st January

1972, under sub-section (3) of section
133 of the Motor Vehicles Act, 1939.

(2) A statement (Hindi and English
vcisions) showing reasons for delay
in laying the above Notification.
[Placed in Library. See No. LT — 3364/72].

Annual Report of the Indian Standards
Institution, New Delhi

THE MINISTER OF INDUSTRIAL
DEVELOPMENT AND SCIENCE AND
TECHNOLOGY (SHRI C. SUBRA-
MANIAM) : I beg to lay on the Table a copy
of the Annual Reports (Hindi and English
versions) of the Indian Standards Institution,
New Delhi, for the year 1970-71. [Placed in
Library. See No. LT-3365/72].

Sixth Amendment to I.A.S. (Pay) Rules

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND
IN THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : I beg
to re-lay on the Table a copy of the Sixth
Amendment of 1972 to the Indian Adminis-
trative Service (Pay) Rules, 1954 (Hindi and
English versions) published in Notification
No. G S R. 281 (E) in Gazette of India
dated the 20th May, 1972, under sub-section

(2) of section 3 of the All India Services,
Act, 1951. [Placed in Library . See No. LT-
3124/72].

Food Corporation (Second Amendment)
Rules, 1972

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (SHRI
ANNASAHEB P. SHINDE) : I beg to lay
on the Tabic a copy of the Food Corporation
(Second Amendment) Rules, 1972 (Hindi and
English versions) published in Notification
No. G. S. R. 343 (E) in Gazette of India
dated the 18th July, 1972, under sub-section

(3) of section 44 of the Food Corporation
Act, 1964. [Placed in Library . See No. LT-
3366/72].

Notification under Companies Act, 'Tariff
Commissions Report (1971) re-Vanaspati
Industry and Govt.'s Resolution Tiiereon
etc.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF AGRICULTURE (PROF.
SHER SINGH) : I beg to lay on the
Table—

(1) A copy each of the following Noti-

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350

349 Papers Laid

fications (Hindi and English versions)
under subjection (6) or section 3 of
the Essential Commodities Act, 1955; —

(i) The Sugar (Price Determination)
Order, 1972, published in Noti-
fication No. G. S. R. 309 (E) in
Gazette of India dated the 15th
June, 1972.

(ii) The Levy Sugar Supply (Control)
Order, 1972, published in Noti-
fication No. G. S. R. 310 (E) in
Gazette of India dated the 15th
June, 1972.

(iii) The Levy Sugar Supply (Control)
Amendment Order, 1972, publi-
shed in Notification No. G. S. R.
3 18 (E) in Gazette of India dated
the 20th June, 1972.

(iv) The Sugar (Price Determination)
Amendment Order, 1972, publi-
shed in Notification No. G. S. R.
344 (E) in Gazette of India dated
the 19th July, 1972.

[Placed in Library. See No. LT-3367/72].

(2) A copy each of the following papers
under sub-section (2) of section 16 of
the Tariff Commission Act, 1951 ; —

(i) (a) Report (1971) of the Tariff
Commission on the cost structure
of and fair price payable to the
Vanaspati Industry. [Placed in
Library . See No. LT-3368/72.]

(b) Government Resolution No.
6 — VP (15J/72 dated the 27th
July, 1972 notifying Government's
decisions on the above Report
(Hindi and English versions.)
[Placed in Library . See No. LT-
3369/72.]

(ii) A statement (Hindi and English
versions) showing reasons as to
why the documents mentioned
above could not be laid on the
Table within the period prescribed
in sub-section (2) of section 16
of the said Act. [Placed in Library.
See No. LT— 3369/72.]

Review and Annual Report op Handi-
crafts AND HANDLOOMS EXPORTS CORPORATION
op India Ltd., and Certified Accounts of
Export Inspection Council and Export
Inspection Aoencies and Cardamom Board
for 1970-71

THE MINISTER OF FOREIGN TRADE
(SHRI L. N. MISHRA) s I beg to lay on

the Table —

(1) A copy of the following papers (Hindi
and English versions) under sub-
section (I) of section 619A of the
Companies Act, 1956 —

(i) Re riew by the Government on the
working of the Handicrafts and
Handlooms Exports Corporation of
India Limited, New Delhi, for the
year 1970-71.

(ii) Annual Report of the Handi-
crafts and Handlooms Exports
Corporation of India Limited,
New Delhi, for the year 1970-71
along with the Audited Accounts
and the comments of the Comptro-
ller and Auditor General thereon.

[Placed in Library . See No. LT— 3370/72]

(2) A copy* of the Certified Accounts
(Hindi and English versions) of the
Export Inspection Council and Ex-
port Inspection Agencies for the year
1970-71 together with the Audit
Report thereon, under sub -rule (3)
of Rule 16 of the Export (Quality
Control and Inspection) Rules, 1964.
[Placed in Library . See No. LT — 3371/
72.]

(3) A copy of the Certified Accounts
(Hindi and English versions) of the
Cardamom Board, Ernakulam, for
the year 1970-71 and the Audit
Report thereon, under sub-section (4)
of section 19 of the Cardamom Act,
1965. [Placed in Library . See No. LT—
3372/72.]

Annual Report (Part II) of Registrar of
Newspapers

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF INFORMATION AND
BROADCASTING (SHRI DHARAM BIR
SINHA) : I beg to lay on the Table —

( 1 ) A copy of the Annual Report (Part
II) of the Registrar of Newspapers
for India on Press in India, 1970.

(2) A statement (Hindi and English
versions) explaining the reasons for
not laying the Hindi version of
the above Report simultaneously.

[Placed in Library . See No. LT— 3373/72.]

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AUGUST 16 , 1972 /. A. Aircraft mar Palam (St.) 352

MR. SPEAKER : With your permission,
the order will be changed so that they will
be freed earlier because after that we can
place all these things together, call attention,
377 and all that.

SHRI SEZHIYAN : Gall attention is on
an urgent and important matter and this
matter should be studied by the Rules
Committee.

MR. SPEAKER : The formal business
should be finished ; there should be no
controversy about it. I hope you will all
kindly agree to it.

13.47 hrs.

STATEMENT CORRECTING ANSWER
TO S. Q. NO. 14 RE BEHAVIOUR OF
DOCTORS IN DELHI HOSPITALS TO-
WARDS VICTIMS OF A CAR ACCIDENT

THE MINISTER OF ' WORKS AND
HOUSING AND HEALTH AND FAMILY
PLANNING (SHRI UMA SHANKAR
DIKSHIT) : I beg to lay a statement
correcting the answer given on the 31st July,
1972 to Starred Question No. 14 by Shri D.
K. Panda regarding the behaviour of Doctors
in Delhi hospitals with victims of car accident.

Statement

In the statement referred to in reply to
Starred Question No. 14 on 31st July, 1972
by Shri D. K. Panda, it was stated that of
the 10 patients 2 subsequently died, 6 were
discharged and 2 were still under treatment
at the All India Institute of Medical Sciences
Hospital. The number of persons who died
and who were discharged was given incorr-
ectly and I wish to correct the same. The
correct position is that out of 10 patients 4
died subsequendy, 4 were discharged, 1 left
against medical advice and 1 patient is still
under treatment at the Hospital.

I regret the inconvenience caused to the
House.

13.48 hrs.

STATEMENT RE CRASH OF AN INDIAN
AIRLINES FOKKER FRIENDSHIP AIR-
CRAFT NEAR PALAM AIRPORT ON

11 . 8 . 1972 .

MR. SPEAKER : Dr. Karan Singh.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur) :

Why not a call attention motion on this
matter ? We have demanded a judicial
enquiry. I tell you that people from Calcutta,
Members from Calcutta, Madras all travel in
Caravelle or jets ; we have to travel in Fokker
Friendship ; it is people like us who die. . •

( Interruptions .)

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond
Harbour) : This type of statement takes us
nowhere because the Minister says things
which we do not accept. We say that this
accident took place due to lack of precision
approach radar. They have not installed it
in India. Please allow us either 193 discussion
or call attention ; let us not hear sou motu
statements from the Ministers.

MR. SPEAKER : Let him make the
statement.

THE MINISTER OF TOURISM AND
CIVIL AVIATION (DR. KARAN SINGH) :
It is with shock that the Hon’ble Members
will have learnt of the tragic crash of Indian
Airlines Fokker VT-DME on the night of the
11th. The aircraft was on a scheduled flight
from Bombay to Delhi via Indore, Bhopal and
Gwalior and took off from Gwalior at 9.10
p. m. The aircraft had 14 passengers and 4
crew members on board. After leaving Gwa-
lior it was in normal contact with the Delhi
air traffic control. The weather situation over
Delhi was communicated to the aircraft in
flight. It approached the runway in order to
effect an instrument landing but was unable
to land on its first attempt and earned out a
missed approach. It then made a circuit for
a second approach to land and reported to
the Control tower that its position was then
over the outer marker. The pilot was direc-
ted by the Control tower to report “visual”.
There was, however, no response from the
plane and in spite of repeated calls to it con-
tact could not be re-established.

At 10.44 p.m., two minutes after the last
contact had been made with the aircraft,
rescue and fire fighting services were alerted.
At 10.53 p.m. an Indian Airlines Caravelle
which was then coming in to Delhi was also
directed to look out for the missing aircraft.
Two minutes later a report was received from
the Caravelle that a fire had been observed
towards its left side, short of the middle mar-
ker. The rescue and fire fighting services were
immediately directed to proceed along the
final approach area and to make a thorough
search between the outer and the middle
marker. A crash fire tender, a rescuer tender

353 /. /. andS . C. (r«Jfcw* SRAVANA 25,

owr of Management ) 2?i7/

and an ambulance promptly started the search*
Due to the difficult terrain, adverse weather
conditions and darkness, the vehicles were
unable to reach the scene of the accident,
but foot parties from the vehicles including
some police personnel reached the site of the
wreckage at 12.30 a.m. near village Maksudpur
about 3 miles East of the runway. They found
that the aircraft had completely disintegrated
on impact with the ground and its wreckage
was strewn over an area of approximately
half a mile. There were no survivors and the
bodies of the passengers and crew had been
torn apart. There was no fire at the time.
Separately, Indian Airlines had also sent out
search parties along with a doctor and an
ambulance.

The commander of the ill-fated plane was
Gapt. J. M. Thapar who had a total flying
experience of about 8,000 hours, 3,000 of them
on F-27 planes including over 1000 in com-
mand. A Court of Inquiry presided over by
Shri Justice Rajinder Sachar of the Delhi
High Court is being constituted to enquire
into the causes and circumstances of this
tragic accident.

The House will share my profound sense
of shock and join me in expressing sympathy
with the families of those killed It is a matter
of deep sorrow that one of the passengers of
this plane was a colleague of ours, Shrimati
Minimata Agamdas Guru.

SHRI R. V. SW AMI NATHAN (Madurai) :
Mr. Speaker, will you permit some questions
on this statement or allow a discussion ?

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Sir, you
should either allow a calling attention or a
discussion under rule 193 because there were
serious lapses on the part of the airport autho-
rities.

MR. SPEAKER : A judicial enquiry has
already been ordered. Let me think over it.

13.50 hr s.

INDIAN IRON AND STEEL COMPANY
(TAKING OVER OF MANAGEMENT)
BILL*

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : Sir, on behalf of
Shri Mohan Kumaramangalam, l beg to move
for' leave to introduce a Bill to provide for

* Published in Gazette of India Extraordinary

1894 {SAKA) /. /. and S. C. {Taking 354
over of Management) Ord .

the taking over of the management of the
undertaking of the Indian Iron and Steel
Company Limited for a limited period in the
public interest and in order to secure the
proper management of the undertaking.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur) : Why
for a limited period ? Why not permanently?

MR. SPEAKER : He will explain that
when the Bill is taken up for consideration.
The question is :

“That leave be granted to introduce a
Bill to provide for the taking over of the
management of the undertaking of the
Indian Iron and Steel Company Limited
for a limited period in the public interest
and in order to secure the proper manage-
ment of the undertaking.**

The motion was adopted .

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN I intro-
duce the Bill.

13.52 hrs.

STATEMENT RE. INDIAN IRON AND
STEEL COMPANY (TAKING OVER OF
MANAGEMENT) ORDINANCE, 1972

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : Sir, on behalf of
Shri Mohan Kumaramangalam, I beg to lay
on the Table an explanatory statement (Hindi
and English versions) giving reasons for
immediate legislation by the Indian Iron and
Steel Company (Taking over of Management)
Ordinance, 1972, under rule 71 (1) of the
Rules of Procedure and Conduct of Business
in Lok Sabha.

MR. SPEAKER : It is nearing 2 O’clock.
Lunch hour has been taken up by the other
business. If you like, we can continue,

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur) : We
do not want you to be hungry because hunger
and anger go together.

MR. SPEAKER : Don’t think about me ;
think about you.

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond
Harbour) : Why should you think we are so
heartless ?

MR. SPEAKER: All right. We will
adjourn for lunch and meet at 3 O'clock.

Part II, section 2, dated 16,8,72

355

Disturbed

AUGUST 16, 1972

Areas (, Spl . Courts) Bill

356

13.54 hrs.

The Lok Sabha adjourned for Lunch till Fifteen of
the Clock .

The Lok Sabha re-assembled at two minutes past
Fifteen of the Clock .

[Mr. Deputy-Speaker in the Chair ]

•

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU (Diamond
Harbour) s Sir, before you take up the regular
business, 1 wish to raise two points. Last
week, on the 10th of August, I handed over
to you a true copy of the interim report of
the Wanchoo Committee, duly authenticated
by me.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The matter
is being considered. It is under consideration.

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Seven days
have passed. Government have more or less
accepted certain recommendations, like the
one on imposing a ceiling on cash holdings.
Why is the government not coming forward
with the copy of the report ? It should be
made available to Members.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : It is true it
has taken some time. But it is still under con-
sideration. I hope the decision would be taken
soon.

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Then, I
had given notice of a privilege motion against
Shri Siddheswar Prasad for misleading the
House in reply to a question on Asian Cable
Corporation Limited. Shri K. P. Goenka . . .

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : He has to
give prior notice.

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : I have
given notice to office.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Then it is
under consideration.

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Ministers
are trying to protect big business. . . .

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : What he says
will not go on record.

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : * * *

15.05 hrs.

DISTURBED AREAS (SPECIAL COURTS)
BILL— Contd*

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : We resume

discussion on the Disturbed Areas (Special
Courts) Bill. In the discussion on the last
occasion, the House at one stage agreed to
refer the Bill to the Joint Committee and then,
subsequently, rescinded that decision. Before
we proceed with the Bill I would like to know
what the Minister has got to say about it.

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS AND IN
THE DEPARTMENT OF PERSONNEL
(SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA) : We had
agreed that this Bill should be referred to a
Joint Committee. The original intention of
the Government was to proceed with the Bill.
But in view of the various opinions that were
expressed by the hon. Members and possible
difficulties that might arise in the Bill, in
deference to the wishes of the hon. Members,
Government agreed that the Bill may be
referred to a Joint Select Committee. Then,
about the composition of the Committee there
were some difficulties. I have given notice of
a substitute motion. If you allow it, I will
move it.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : There are
two Motions to refer the Bill to the Joint
Committee, one by Shri R. D. Bhandare and
the other by Shri Ram Niwas Mirdha. If
Mr. Bhandare wants to press for his Motion,
then I will have to put that first to the House.
That is not pressed. Then, let the Minister
move his Motion.

SHRI RAM NIWAS MIRDHA : I beg
to move :

“That the Bill to provide for the speedy
trial of certain offences in certain areas
and for matters connected therewith, be
referred to a Joint Committee of the Houses
consisting of 45 members, 30 from this
House, namely : —

Shri R. D. Bhandare, Shri M. C. Daga,
Shri Madhu Dandavate, Shri Tulsidas Dasappa,
Shri Biren Dutta, Shri C. D. Gautam, Shri
Dinesh Chander Goswami, Shrimati Subhadra
Joshi, Dr. Kailas, Shri Purushottam Kakodkar,
Shri Sat Pal Kapur, Shri L. D. Kotoki,
Shrimati T. Lakshmikanthamma, Shri Mukhtiar
Singh Malik, Shri Prasannbhai Mehta,
Shri G. S. Mishra, Shri F. H, Mohsin,
Shri Priya Ranjan Das Munsi, Shri Balakrishna
Venkanna Naik, Shri Sarjoo Pandey,
Shri K. C. Pant, Shri H. M. Patel, Shri M.
Satyanarayan Rao, Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman Sait,

•** Not recorded.

357 Disturbed Areas (Spl. Courts) SRAVANA 25,
Bill

Shri Nawal Kishore Sharma, Shri B. R. Shukla,
Shri N. Tombi Singh, Shri G. M. Stephen,
Shri K. Veeriah, Shri R. P. Yadav,
and 15 from Rajya Sabha ;

that in order to constitute a sitting of
the Joint Committee the quorum shall be
one-third of the total number of members
of the Joint Committee ;

that the Committee shall make a
report to this House by the first day of
the next session ;

that in other respects the Rules of
Procedure of this House relating to Parlia-
mentary Committees shall apply with such
variations and modifications as the Speaker
may make ; and

that this House do recommend to
Rajya Sabha that Rajya Sabha do join
the said Joint Committee and communicate
to this House the names of 15 members
to be appointed by Rajya Sabha to the
Joint Committee.”

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The question
is :

“That the Bill to provide for the
speedy trial of certain offences in certain
areas and for inatteis connected therewith,
be referred to a Joint Committee of the
Houses consisting of 45 members, 30 from
this House, namely : —

Shri R. D. Bhandare, Shri M. C. Daga,
Shri Madhu Dandavate, Shri Tulsidas Dasappa,
Shri Bircn Dutta, Shri C. D. Gautam, Shri
Dincsh Ghandor Ooswami, Shrimati Subhadra
Joshi, Dr. Kailas, Shri Purushottam Kakodkar,
Shri Sat Pal Kapur, Shri L. D. Kotoki,
Shrimati 1 Lakshmikanthamma, Shri
Mukhtiar Singh Malik, Shri Prasannbhai
Mehta, Shri G. S. Mishra, Shri F. H Mohsin,
Shri Priya Ranjan Das Munsi, Shri Balakrishna
Venkanna Naik, Shri Sarjoo Pandey, Shri
K. C. Pant, Shri H. M. Patel, Shri M. Satya-
narayan Rao, Shri Ebrahim Sulaiman Sait,
Shri Nawal Kishore Sharma, Shri B. R. Shukla,
Shri N. Tombi Singh, Shri C. M. Stephen,
Shri K. Veeriah, Shri R. P. Yadav, and 15
from Rajya Sabha ;

that in order to constitute a sitting
of the Joint Committee the quorum shall
be one-third of the total number of
members of the Joint Committee ;

that the Committee shall make a
report to this House by the first day of
the next session ;

1894 (&4£4) Income-tax (Arndt.) Bill 358

that in other respects the Rules of
Procedure of this House relating to Parlia-
mentary Committee shall apply with such
variations and modifications as the Speaker
may make ; and

The motion was adopted.

15.08 hrs.

INCOME-TAX (AMENDMENT) BILL

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Then, we
take up further discussion of the Income-tax
(Amendment) Bill. Shri Bade was on his legs.

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nium Co. Ltd. vs. Commissioner of Income-
tax (1972) 84 I. T. R. 735, the Supreme
Court virtually overruled its earlier deci-
sion in Travancore Titanium Product Ltd.
vs. Commissioner of Income-tax (1966)
60 I. T. R. 277, and held that wealth-tax
paid by an assessee in respect of business
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AUGUST 16, 1972

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Canada, 75.4 per cent in U. K., 70 per cent
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SHRI N. K. P. SALVE (llctul) : This
Bill has nothing to do with the Wanchoo
Commission. It has a very limited purpose.
The time is very short

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361 tncom-lax (Arndt.) BUI SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAKA) Income-tax (. Arndt .) Bill 362

will help in resolving ambiguities and

doubts in time. . . ”

Boards should be appointed and that is what
is said on page 163 of the Wanchoo Com-
mittee's report. . . .

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : I think the
scope of the Bill is very limited . .

SHRI R. V. BADE : There are so many
ambiguities in the income tax law. .«

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Discussion
about ambiguities would be a much bigger
discussion. Here the point is that the wealth
tax of a person should not be deducted from
the taxable income.

SHRI R. V. BADE: If you read the
Statement of Objects and Reasons, they have
given the same thing. In the recent ruling of
1972 the Supreme Court has overruled the
previous rulings and, therefore, this ambiguity
is there. Why I should explain is because the
law is very complicated and the Wanchoo
Committee has recommended that there should
be a Special Tribunal which will solve the
complicated questions. That is on page 163.
I am saying the same thing that the Income
Tax law is so complicated and there are so
many amendments that an ordinary man
cannot understand it. So, the Supreme Court
has overruled the previous rulings and hence
the Ordinance. The whole income tax law is
very much complicated I oppose this because
of the complexities of the income tax law.
Therefore, I oppose this wealth tax. A man
should not be taxed twice. If he is taxed to
wealth tax; then he should not be subject to
income tax.

SHRI N. K. P. SALVE (Betulj : I rise
to support this Bill. . .

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : We are
taking up some other business at 3 30. So,
please try to conclude by that time.

SHRI N. K. P. SALVE : I will try,
Sir.

I rise to support this Bill for grounds
which are different and may be at variance
with those enumerated in the Statement of
Objects and Reasons appended to the Bill
itself. In fact, this legislative measure which
has been sponsored by this Bill stands on its
own intrinsic merits, unrelated to the case
made out in the Statement and for extraneous
reasons. I would never canvass support for
this Bill either for supersession of the judgment

rendered in the case of Indian Aluminium by
the Supreme Court. I would submit in all
humility that that is the judgment, that is a
right judgment. I do not for a moment seek
support for the supersession of that judgment
nor do I seek support for this Bill merely on
the consideration of administrative convenience
nor do I seek support for this Bill because in
the absence of this or if we arc not going to
pass this law, it is likely to cause some loss to
the Exchequer. The Bill goes to create a
concept about taxable income so far as the
business income concerned and we are not
going to pass such laws creating concepts,
artificial concepts of business income. Not for
any of these considerations do I support this
Bill. I support this Bill for some thing much
deeper. It concerns very sound principles of
fiscal legislation because, as a result of this
Bill, we are able to remedy a defect, we arc
able to remedy a lacuna in the law of income
tax if the incorrc tax law is correlated in
juxtaposition to the wealth tax law. I will
explain the position to Mr. Bade and he will
immediately realise how inequitous the aggre-
gate burden of income tax and the wealth
tax is hkely to become if this law was not
amended the way we have sought to amend.
As a result of this Bill and when this Bill
becomes law, the wealth tax paid by an
asscssee will not be an allowable deduction,
against his taxable income under the head
‘business’ or under the head ‘income from
other sources’. It would be assured that the
burden of wealth-tax would become even on
all the assessces with reference to quantum of
the net wealth, so that the aggregate payment
of income-tax and wealth tax does not become
desparate in two different areas who have
wealth of the same value, of the same income,
but one has the business income and the
other has got income from some ocher source
other than business. How this will become
inequitous will be illustrated by me just now.
The judgment is correct ; that is why we have
come with this law. That is why we have
come with the amendment of the law. I am
supporting the rationable of the law. I will
explain this. Take assessce A. Take assessec
B. A has business income. He has 3.30 lakhs.
The liability of A is Rs. 30,000 for wealth
tax. Take assessee B. He has rental income
or income from house properties etc. The
wealth-tax liability is Rs. 30,000. In case of
both A and B, taxable income would be
3.30 lakhs. In the absence of this law, persons
whose incomes are from business have to pay
a wealth tax of Rs. 30,000. The determination
of business income as a total of taxable income

363 Income-tax (Arndt.) Sill

AUGUST 16, 1972

Inconu-tax ( Arndt .) Bill 364

[Shri N. K. P. Salve]

of Rs. 3.30 lakhs and will give a deduction of
Rs. 30,000. This calculation would amount to
Rs. 2,49,550 whereas in the case of B, it will
be Rs. 2,78,875. Thciefore, the liability in
the case of one is Rs. 29,325 more. This type
of discrimination is there, as my hon. friend
will see.

SHRI R. V. BADE : The second para
of the statement says that the Ordinance
amended the Income-tax Act, 1961, retros-
pectively from April 1, 1962, to provide that
wealth-tax payable by a person dciiving
income chargeable under the head 'Profits
and gains of business or profession’ or 'income
from other sources’ will not be allowed as a
deduction in commuting taxable income under
these heads.

SHRI N. K. P. SALVE : That is exactly
the point. That is what is sought to be done
in this Bill. I have explained how inequitous
the discrimination would be in the case of
assessccs who are both similary situated. One
has assets put of business and the other has
other-than business income. In view of the
decision of the Supreme Court in the Indian
Aluminium Company Ltd. this is what is
sought to be remedied. I do not subscribe
to what is stated in the statement of Object#
and Reasons appended to the Bill. That
is a very highly bureaucratic approach to
the matter. They take only the one part ;
they do not sec me the mam part. I do not
foi a moment submit that the decision of
the Supreme Court in the Indian Aluminium
Company given in No. 84 ITR is not the
correct judgment ; that is a correct judge-
ment ; but then, the Supreme Court is
supposed to give interpretation on the law
as it stands. We should amend the law. The
eailier derision of the Supreme Court was
not correct because it was on the basis of
the old decision in the House of Commons.
It did not hold the field after 10 years in
England and it was referred to a much
larger bench. They said “Wealth tax payment
is allowable deduction.”

I may also explain why in the earlier
case it was held that wealth tax was not an
allowable deduction. They said that wealth
tax was levied on a person qua the owner
of a property and on qua the trader, and,'
therefore, it would not be an allowable
deduction. That was the decision in the
case of Travancore Titanium, which was report-
ed in 1966 (60, ITR ; p. 235). But then
bsequently it was held that a trader’s

liability could not be isolated from his liability
qua the owner of the property. For, if bonus
is paid, does he pay bonus as the employer
or does he pay it as a trader ? If he pays
rent for the premises in which he is carrying
on business, and rent is allowed as business
expenditure, docs he pay rent as a trader or
as a tenant ? Suppose he pays rates and
taxes to the municipality or the local author-
ity, does he pay those taxes as qua trader or
qua owner ? A view has been taken con-
sistently and courts have been giving their
interpretation — it has to be a dynamic inter-
pretation, and it cannot be a static concept —
that a trader’s liability was expanding always,
and, therefore, they had in the Aluminium
case that wealth tax liability was a legitimate
allowable liability. There was nothing wrong
with that decision. But in the absence of this
law, I have pointed out to you how equitous
the aggregate liability of income-tax and
wealth tax would have become. The State-
ment of Objects and Reasons, instead of
bringing out this particular point, has got
itself embroiled in the two decisions etc. of
which advantage is taken by Shri R. V. Bade
who has criticised it without coming to the
merits.

Now, I want someone to tell us what is
wrong in it ; if the aggregate liability of income-
tax and wealth tax in respect of two assessccs
similarly situated is to be brought on a par,
then this law is particularly utterly necessary.
Therefore, I commend this Bill, but finally
one word more, and I have done.

This is a case where the Supreme Court
has given decision m favour of the assessee
and against the Department, because of the
faulty drafting, and, therefore, we have given
promptly in this House to amend the law.
Sometimes it is the other way round, and
decisions are given by the Supreme Court
or observations are made which are against
the assessecs and in favour of the Department.
It is equally necessary in those cases also
where the intent of the legislation is in favour
of the assessee, but due to faulty drafting,
the Supreme Court has held it against the
assessee and in favour of the Department, the
Department must not delay the bringing
forward of legislation.

With these words, I support the Bill.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER s Now, Shri
Baladh anday u tham .

SHRI K. NARAYANA RAO (Bobilli) :

365

Schemes for

SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAKA) development of backward 366

areas (Motn.)

May I seek one clarification from Shri
N.K.P. Salve ?

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : He can seek
a clarification from the Minister and not from
a member. When he speaks he can have his
say.

SHRI K. BALADHANDAYUTHAM
(Coimbatore) : I welcome this amendment
for the simple reason that it will add to the
resources of the Government, though not
further the socio-economic objectives about
which Shri K. R. Ganesh elaborated the
other day, because it does not require any
argument now that the achievement of the
socio-economic objective through the method
of taxation has proved a failure in the last two
or three years. We are celebrating the Silver
jubilee of the failure of the policy of taxation
with socio-economic objectives . . .

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF FINANCE (SHRI K. R.
GANESH) : This refers only to direct taxes.

SHRI K. BALADHANDAYUTHAM :
Even in the field of direct taxation the socio-
economic objective is not being achieved, be-
cause the reply came from Shri Piloo Mody
immediately that they were not going to pay
the taxes . . .

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : The hon.
Member can continue his speech on the next
day.

15.28 hrs.

MOTION RE: SEPARATE CENTRAL
SCHEMES FOR DEVELOPMENT OF
B \CKWARD AREAS

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : We shall
now take up the motion by Shri Nathu Ram
Ahirwar on the separate development schemes
for the backward areas . . .

SHRI P. K. DEO (Kalahandi) : May I
submit that more time should be given ? . . .

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Let me
finish what I am going to say. I have not
even finished my sentence.

This is a subject in which many Members
feel involved, and, therefore, the tendency
will be to make their submissions as strong as
possible, and also as long as possible. But £
would like to draw the attention of the House
to the fact that only two hours have been
allotted for this discussion. At 5.30 p. m.,

we are taking up another matter. Therefore,
I would request that the Members who speak
will kindly be as brief and precise and
incisive as possible.

Now, Shri Nathu Ram Ahirwar.

SHRI P. K. DEO : May £ submit that
this is a very important subject ? We talk
of socialism and all that. There is appalling
regional imbalance. It would not be possible
to do justice to the subject if we have only
two hours. So, I submit that more time
should be given . . .

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Let us see.

SHRI P. K DEO : ... So, I submit that
at your discretion you many extend it by one
hour. I think that is the sense of the House
also.

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY (Cooch-
Bchar) rose — ^

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Before we
begin, more time is wasted on this.

SHRI P. K. DEO : We should have at
least three hours.

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : I
have submitted one amendment to the
motion.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : We will sec
about it. Wc have not come to that stage.

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SHRI B. V. NAIK (Kanara) : On a
point of order. You wanted this to be a sort
of a general discussion. Luckily we have in
our midst our Planning Ministers. I wonder
whether it would not be fitting if the scope
of the discussion on this is broadened to cover
the entire backward areas. .(Interruptions.) We
have submitted some amendments. If it is
going to be considered tomorrow also, our
amendments and motions will be in time.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : We shall do
something at that stage.

16, 1972 development of backward 372
areas (Motn.)

SHRI P. K. DEO : You should extend
the time to three hours.

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MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : Motion
moved :

“That this House is of opinion that
separate development central schemes be
undertaken for the backward areas in the
country, such as Eastern U. P., Bundel-
khand in Madhya Pradesh, Ghhota Nagpur,
in Bihar so that these areas may not lag
behind other developing areas’*.

Three arc a number of amendments given
notice of by Members. The amendments of those
who had given them in time had been circulated.
A number of amendments weic sent only today.
In view of the importance of the subject, and
Members are very much involved in it as they
should be, and because the last two days were
holidays, I shall accept all the amendments
given notice of even today, with the difference
that those Members who gave amendments
only today, when they stand up to move their
amendments, would read them out because
they have not been circulated.

SHRI P. K. DEO : They could be circu-
lated now.

MR. DEPUTY-SPEAKER : There is
some physical limit to what could be done.
The time allotted is limited and even with
extension of time, it will not be possible to
give the members as much time as they would
like. Therefore, I will request hon. member
to be precise. Very ofien, when you are
precise, you are more effective.

SHRI BIBHUTI MISHRA (Motihari) : I
beg to move :

- That in the motion, —
for “in Bihar'* substitute —

“Santhal Parganas, Alawe and other
places in Bihar where Dhangar and
Musahars are living*’ (1)

SHRI S. G. BESRA (Dumka) : I beg to
move :

That in the motion, —
after “Chhota Nagpur" insert —

“and Santhal Parganas District" (2)

SHRI KARTIK ORAON (Lohardaga) :

I beg to move :

That in the motion, —
for “Ghhota Nagpur in Bihar so that these
areas may not lag behind other developing
areas”

substitute —

“Ghhota Nagpur Division and Santhal
Parganas District of Bihar, with a view to
removing the regional imbalances existing
in these areas as compared to other areas
in the respective States" (3)

SHRI P. K. DEO : I beg to move :

That in the motion, —

after “Bihar” insert “the State of

Orissa" (4).

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : I beg
to move :

That in the motion, —
after “Bihar" insert —

“five districts of North Bengal such
as Cooch Bihar, Jalpaiguri, Darjeeling,
West Dinajpur and Malda and also the
area comprising Sundcrban and the
Purulia — Bankura districts of West

Bengal” (5)

SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GOSWAMI
(Gauhati) : I beg to move :

That in the motion, —

after “Bihar" insert —

“and industrially backward States
like Assam and Meghalaya" (6)

SHRI SHIVA GHANDIKA (Banka) : I
beg to move :

That in the motion, —

for “in Bihar" substitute —

“and hilly areas of Banka Sub-
division of Bhagalpur District, Santhal
Pargana District and other places in Bihar
where Scheduled Castes and Scheduled
Tribes are living” (7)

375

Schemes fir

AUGUST 16,

SHRI CHANDRIKA PRASAD (Ballia) I
I beg to move :

That in the motion, —

for “separate development Central
Schemes be undertaken for the backward
areas in the country, such as Eastern
U. P., Bundelkhand in Madhya Pradesh,
Chhota Nagpur in Bihar so that these
areas may not lag behind other develop-
ing areas* *
substitute —

“separate development Central Sche-
mes be undertaken and medical college,
agricultural university, veterinary college,
sainik school and engineering college, be
set up in each Eastern District of Uttar
Pradesh with a view to removing regional
imbalances prevailing in these areas as
compared to other areas of the concerned
States** (8)

SHRI JYOTIRMOY* BOSU (Dimond
Harbour) s I beg to move :

That in the motion, —

for “separate development Central
Schemes be undertaken for the backward
areas in the country, such as Eastern
U. P-, Bundelkhand in Madhya Pradesh,
Chhota Nagpur in Bihar so that these
areas may not lag behind other develop-
ing areas*’
substitute —

“this country as a whole is back-
ward and inter-State and intra-State
disparity and imbalance arc on the increase
in the fields of rural electrification, irriga-
tion, rural housing, rural roads, coopera-
tives, education, per capita income and
consumption and in other spheres and
therefore feels that sufficient allocation
should be made in favour of respective
State Governments specifically earmarked
extra funds for backward-most areas and
districts as indicated in the list of (180
districts) published by Planning Comm-
ission, including Eastern U. P., Bundel-
khand, Chhota Nagpur, Pumea, Purulia,
Bankura, North Bengal, Midnapur, Sunder-
bans, Kalahandi, Ramanathapurum and
other such areas” (10)

SHRI B. V, NAIK (Kanara) : I
beg to move :

That in the motion, —

for “The backward areas in the
country, such as Eastern U. P., Bundel-
khand in Madhya Pradesh, Chhota Nag-
pur in Bihar so that these areas may not

1972 development of backward 3 i6

areas (Main.)

lag behind other developing areas’*

substitute —

“all backward areas in the
country” '(11)

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Sir, we
quite understand that when the country was
subjugated, before, 1947, regional imbalance
was there ; but that was to serve the cause of
the ruling nation, namely, British. But after
that, in every Plan they profess the aim of
bringing down the regional imbalance. I
would like to quote the Fourth Five Year Plan
published by Shri Dhar and Company. It
says t

“In terms of regional development
there has been a natural tendency for new
enterprises and investments to gravitate
towards the already overcrowded metro-
politan areas because they are better
endowed with economic and social infra-
structure. Not enough has been done to
restrain this process. While a certain
measure of dispersal has been achieved, a
much larger effort is necessary to bring
about greater dispersal of industrial
activity.”

I go further and quote another portion from
page Id :

“Balanced regional development and
dispersal of economic ac tivity arc closely
inter-related. Growth and diversification
of economic activity in an under-develop-
ed area can take place only if the infra-
structure required for this is provided in
an adequate measure and programmes for
conservation and development of natural
resources undertaken.”

India as a whole is very very poor. After 25
years of glorious Congress rule, we have the
lowest per capita income in the world. If I am
to believe a journalist who has taken a lot of
trouble for collecting figures, the per capita
income of India is 73 dollars while Pakistan
had 121, Thailand 137, Ceylon 132, United
Arab Republic 136 and Ghana 198. He says:

“India is at the rockbottom of eco-
nomic progress. Economic progress is
mathematically measured by rhe per capita
national income of a country.”

He further states :

“It is poor not only in respect of food
and clothing, but in respect of housing,
educational provision for maintenance of
health as well. The plans have failed to
improve India’s standard of living. The

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failure is generally attributed to ‘popula-
tion explosion' in this country. But a
reference to the above Table will show
that so far as the annual growth rate of
population is concerned, other countries
which have a similar or even higher
growth rate, have larger per capital

So, you have been selling cock and bull
stories.

Then I come to the inter-State picture. It
is a Ramayana, tied in black, bound in black
cloth because it deals with the dark age of the
progress of this couutry. The per capita of the
various States during the year 1969-70 are as
follows : Punjab Rs. 945 ; Haryana Rs. 788 ;
Maharashtra Rs. 731 ; Gujarat Rs. 635 ;
Tamilnadu Rs. 616 ; Madhya Pradesh
Rs. 560, West Bengal Rs. 562 ; Assam Rs. 545 ;
Mysore Rs. 515 ; Jammu and Kashmir
Rs. 513 ; Andhra Rs. 5 1 3 ; Uttar Pradesh
Rs. 506 ; Kerala Rs. 505 ; Rajasthan Rs. 480;
Bihar Rs. 402 and Orissa Rs. 375. This is
what you have done in the course of 25 years
of glorious rule.

Let us go to the performance of the public
institutions. I will take one public institution,
LIG, to show what sort of one-eyed creature
it is. I am quoting the Financial Express :

“The regionwise distribution of
LIC’s investment reveals wide disparities
between States.”

Is it so ? It is all in your hands and you are
creating regional imbalance for purposes and
reasons best known to you.

It further adds :

“Of the Corporation’s total invest-
ments (which could be classified by regions)
of Rs. 1109.48 crores at the end of March
1971 the major share of nearly one-third
went to the western region, followed by
southern and eastern regions with about
a fourth each of the LIC's total invest-
ment in the regions/'

I do not want to go into the details. I just
wanted to show you one specimen how
public sector financing institution have
behaved in the matter of bringing down
regional imbalance and disparity of which
they talk so loudly.

Now, 1 go to I.D.B.I., a very impor-
tant institution. This is their latest report.
This is about trends in assistance disbursed

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by the I.D.B.I. from 1964-65 to 1970-71
(July-June). The amount of direct loans to
other than backward districts, that is, advanced
areas is Rs. 83.8 crores ; direct loans to back-
ward districts — Rs. 5.9 crores. It is not even
l/16th of what has gone to the advanced
areas. You only render lip service to back-
ward areas that you want to bring them up
to the standard of advanced areas.

Then, this is the State-wise distribution
of financial assistance sanctioned and disbursed
by the I.D.B.I. during 1970-71. Take, for
instance, Assam. Total assistance sanctioned :
Rs. 7.5 lakhs whereas assistance disbursed — nil.
In the case of Bihar, the assistance sanctioned
is Rs. 863.9 lakhs whereas they have actually
disbursed Rs. 181.3 lakhs. In the case of
Maharashtra, the sanctioned assistance amounts
Lo Rs. 3151.6 lakhs whereas the amount dis-
bursed is Rs. 2698.7 lakhs. You can see the
percentage ratio. In the case of West Bengal,
as against the sanctioned assistance of Rs.
1459.5 lakhs, the actual amount disbursed is
Rs. 597.2 lakhs. This is your wonderful
performance.

Then out of the total number of 752
industrial licences issued during three years,
1969 to 1971, only 91 were issued for back-
ward areas. Yet, these people have the courage
to say that they are shedding bucketful of
tears every day to alleviate the sufferings of
backward areas, 181 districts identified and
listed by the Planning Commission. This is
really nothing but an utter concoction of every-
thing.

Now, I go to rural electrification which
will interest you, Sir — you don’t cease to repre-
sent the people from Meghalaya. Take, for
instance, Assam. The total number of villages
is 25,702 and the total number of villages
electrified is 707. That represents 2.75 per
cent. Bihar — total number of villages is 67,665
and the topil number of villages electrified is
7981, that is, 11.79 per cent. In the case of
Madhya Pradesh, thc'percentage of the villages
electrified is 11.2 ; Nagaland — 9.21 ; Orissa
topping the list — 2.71; Rajasthan — 11.09;
Uttar Pradesh — 18.78 ; West Bengal — 7.89 and
so on. Look at the disparity. Then, there are
States where there is hundred per cent ; then
there are States with 77 per cent and there
are States with 83 per cent. The backward
areas have remained exactly what they were.

In the case of literacy, I am quoting from
the Cabinet Secretariat draft which says :

“Connected with the issue of primary

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[Shri Jyolirmoy Bosu]

education is the question of adult literacy
as well as the overall literacy in the coun-
try, particularly in those areas where the
level of liteiacy is considerably lower than
the all-India average. The preliminary
data released after the 1971 census shows
that the “overall literacy percentage for
the country as a whole has increased from
24.03 per cent in 1%1 to only 29.34 per
cent in 1971, showing a low rate of incre-
ase in the literacy percentage of the popu-
lation, i. e. about 0.5 per cent per
annum . . ”

The backward areas have remained where
they weie.

Then, it further says :

“There are as many as 33 districts
with a total population of 32.07 million
where the literacy percentage is less than
15 per cent,. M

In 67 districts with a total population of
105.93 millions, the level of literacy is only
between 15 and 20 per cent. That is all they
have been able to do.

16 hrs.

On small scale industries, the State-wise
advance by scheduled commercial banks was
as follows : Assam — the number of units finan-
ced 001 ; Bihar 1492 ; Himachal Pradesh 89 ;
Jammu and Kashmir 443 ; Maharashtra
18,247 ; Meghalaya 1 ; Nagaland 24 ; Orissa
697 ; and West Bengal 5,035. That is the
picture. That is what they have done in the
last 25 yeais. For vote-catching they will come
and tell the people that they would get the
Moon, but later on that will be proved to be
nothing but Moon shine. I condemn this
Government. I would expect them to accept
my amendments given for the betterment of
the country and for the improvement of the
lot of the people living in backward areas.

SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH
(Nandyal) l The time at our disposal is very
short. I do not want to go into the details of
the entire matter. I entirely agree with the
Mover of this Resolution with regard to some
concrete steps that have to be taken to deve-
lop these backward areas in the country as a
whole.

The Planning Commission has realised
this grave necessity when they have made a
detailed study and have indentified certain
ate as as backward areas and areas which

require preferential and special treatment by
the Central Government as well as the State
Governments. In identifying such areas, the
Planning Commission has not taken sufficient
precautions to see that the funds allotted to
the various State Governments for such of
those schemes that arc being undertaken by
the grants given by the Central Government
are spent usefully and properly in those
areas for which they are intended. So, in this
long time of 25 years, in spite of the fact
that large amounts have been spent and Seve-
ral irrigation projects and other development
projects have been undertaken, the disparitv
is growing and the regional imbalances are
growing. There is something wrong some-
where which has to be rectified and remedied
in order to correct these regional imbalan-
ces.

Take, for instance, the case of Andhra
Pradesh where there are two regions which
are chronically famine-affected and where
adverse seasonal conditions prevail once in
alternate years — Royalaseema and Tclengana,
the backward areas of Andhra Pradesh. These
are the two striking examples that the atten-
tion that was supposed to have been paid by
the Central Government and the State Gov-
ernment has failed to create any tangible
results. Even to this day hundreds of villages
go without the basic, elementary need of
drinking water, and there are several places
where the area is subjected to famine. Recen-
tly there was one interesting incident. A
daughter-in-law wanted to commit aucide by
drowning herself in one of the wells ; she
could not do so because all the wells were
dried up. It had come in the newspapers
also. This is the state of affairs after so many
years of planning. These areas have been
identified ; that is allright. But what is hap-
pening ? In the backward district of Royala-
sceraa, a board has been constituted by name
Royalaseema Development Board for amelio-
ration of the backward areas. But no special
funds have been allotted. That is only a sort
of recommendatory body without any man-
datory or statutory functions. It has become
the fifth wheel in our machinery, with the
result that the schemes which are to be exe-
cuted are being delayed eternally. The irri-
gation schemes or the ameliorating schemes
that have to be undertaken have been slowed
down. I might mention a specific example of
a hydro-electric scheme in that region started
at a cost of Rs. 30 crores, by name, the
Srisailam Hydro-electric scheme. It has to be

381 Schemes for SRAVANA 25,

completed by this time according to the sche-
dule arranged by the Government but it has
not yet been completed at now the cost may
go upto Rs. 100 crores There are many
such schemes. I do not want to enume-
rate all those schemes.

One thing is that there is something
wrong with the infra-structural activities that
are to be undertaken. For instance, when
they want to set up industries in those areas,
they have no infra-structural facilities to
start industries. Though we proclaim more
than once that we will induce industrialists
to go and start industries in those backward
areas, in practice nothing has so far been
done.

So, these are all factors which smack lack
of sincerity with regard to the implementation
of the schemes. As I said, even the elemen-
tary facility of drinking water has not been
provided, leave alone irrigation projects. So,

I suggest that there should be a sort of sta-
tutory Board at the Centre comprising all the
identified backward areas in the country and
they should direct the funds to be distributed
to the various Governments to see their
implementation in right earnest. Unless it is
taken up at this level, any amout of speeches
made in the Parliament or any amount of
speeches made in the Assemblies or anywhere
will not bear any fruit. So, these are the
real facts of life and I might emphasize that
the Planning Commission should seriously
apply itself to the task of narrowing down
these regional imbalances with regard to
backward and famine-affected areas. For that
I would suggest that thev should take it up
in right earnest. There is no point in asking
the State Governments which are already
overburdened with the overdrafts and many
of the State Governments are utterly bankrupt.
They are not able to meet even their mini-
mum requirements and their ways and means
position is very hard. For instance, in Andhra
Pradesh, the entire State is in the grip of a
terrible famine. The Chief Minister was
recently here and he was given Rs. crores.
With this financial position, I do not expect
any State Government will be able to take up
these works in right earnest and do j ustice to
these famine-affected areas. So, I would only
urge upon the Planning Commission to see
that a separate cell is established here, as a
sort of co-ordinator and a centralised body
to be constituted here, and the funds to be
given should not be related to the State plans.
They must be separate funds outside the

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State Plans so that they may be put into ope-
ration and infra-structural difficulties are
removed and industries arc induced to go and
set up units in the backward areas. Then
only there will be any remedy for this long-
felt need of improving the condition of the
backward areas.

SHRI P. K. DEO (Kalahandi) : The
President in his Address on the occasion of
the 25th Anniversary of India’s Independence
in the Central Hall on the midnight of the
24th, stated “the prosperity and progress of
every part of India is the concern of the
whole nation.” It is very heartening and it
has to be remembered that the strength of
the chain lies on the weakest link.

If you trace the history of the modern
development of this country, you will find
that it is a historical accident. The Fort St.
George in Madras, the Fort St. William in
Calcutta and the fort St. David in Bombay
provided three spring-boards for imperia-
list expansion and they were the centres of
gravitation for development and with a cen-
trifugal development the entire hinterland
was neglected for the enrichment of the three
cities.

Orissa was the last of cede to the British
supremacy in Eastern India and fought every
inch for its independence and the British
deliberately persecuted the State of Orissa.
No development scheme was taken up in
Orissa and Orissa was kept in pie-bits in Bihar,
in Bengal, in Madhya Pradesh and in the
Madras Presidency. In 1035 Orissa was for-
med ; in 1947 the States merged and still
there were many outlaying Oriya tracts left
in the adjoining areas. It has been repeated
parrot-like that they will remove the regional
imbalance ; in all Plans, this is what is being
repeated. But what is being done ? What
is the result ? In 1966-67 Orissa's per capita
income was Rs. 278.80 as against national per
capita income of Rs. 481.50, a difference of
Rs. 200. This difference of more than Rs.
200 has come about in the sixties as against
the discrepancy of Rs. 100 only in the early
fifties. All these years, the Congress was in
power in Oiissa.

Sir, in 1967, the non-Congress Govern-
ment came to power. It was an era of deve-
lopment and a new impetus was given for
industrial and for agricultural development.
Many schemes and projects were submitted
to the Central Government. The State Gov-
ernment implemented many schemes. One

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[Shri P. K, Deo]

of the unfortunate episodes has been that some
of the schemes previously conceded by the
Central Government have now been siphoned
to certain other areas. There is the case of
the Naval Boys* Training Centre at Barkul
for which there was site selection and only
formal opening remained to be done. This is
near Chilka lake and would have brought
many indirect benefits to the area. Mr.
Chintamani Panigrahi comes from that area.
This has been put in cold storage. Justice
has been sacrificed at the alter of political
expediency. Let Mr. Chintamani Panigrahi
resign on this issue ; we will all see that he
is re-elected on this issue.

If, however, the Naval Boys Training
Centre at Barkul would not be suitable for
ecological reasons, I suggest, it should be
located in some other area along the Orissa
coast. I suggest, it should be located at
Paiadeep. •

Regarding the ship-building yard at Para-
deep, the project report was prepared ; this is
the deepest seaport in the country. It has
harboured the largest ship that has ever
anchored on the Indian port. Still it is
denied the ship-building yard. It has gone to
Haldia. I have no grudge against Haldia.
Near Haldia, there is another establishment
of the Defence Ministry, Garden Reach,
which also builds ships. Nature has endowed
Orissa with all the natural resources and even
Dastur and company gave a report that cost
of production of steel here would be the
lowest. They said, if the next steel plant is
located in Nayagaih the cost would be
Rs. 354 per in got tonne as against Tisco’s
Rs. 413, Durgapur's Rs. 450 and Vizag’s
Rs. 414. Still no consideration was shown
to it.

The setting up of a Jute Mill has been
approved by the Planning Commission and is
stated to be under consideration by Shri L. N,
Mishra. This Jute Mill is not coming up,
even though we grow jute in 50,000 hectares
or 1.50 lakh acres of our land. From these,
you will be convinced that the Centre is
guided by various pulls. The States have no
autonomy even to put up an industrial plant
or to raise the royalty for their mineral ores.
Nature has endowed them with rich natural
resources. When there was arise in the inter-
national price of iron ore, the Central
Government raised the export duty by Rs. 10
per tonne, whereas the States were denied of

areas ( Motn .)

the right to increase their royalty or their
quota of finance.

I would like to submit in this regard that
even in the matter of distribution of essential
commodities like iron and steel, the Centre
controls it. We talk of the development of
backward areas. The infra-structure has to
be developed. As for rural electrification,
there should be a network, but the biggest
impediment is being put by the Central
Government by not releasing sufficient quota
of iron and steel for the transmission line from
Talcher to Thruvali and Balimela. I would
like to point out that this is a direct challenge
to the youths of Orissa, and to the uneducated
unemployed of Orissa, and I hope that they
will rise to the occasion and they will give a
fitting reply to the Government.

Regarding railway lines, Orissa has got
only 1 1 k.m. per 100 sq. k.m. whereas West
Bengal has got 36 k.m. per 100 sq. k.m. and
Punjab has got 44 k.m. per 100 per sq. k.m.
The Jakhpura-Banspani-Koira valley line and
the Amaguda-Kesinga railway line have been
kept in cold storage in spite of the feasibility
report. If Government want that Paradip
port which is basically an iron-ore- exporting
port should not be connected with her hinter-
land and the entire iron ore resources of
Orissa should be siphoned off through the
Haldia port, then there is some high politics
behind it and some dirty politics behind it.

Lastly, there is a feeling that Orissa is
being given parochial treatment by the
Centre, even though there is a Chief Minister
who has been planted there, who has got no
mandate from the people of Orissa, with an
inflated majority with defectors who have been
promised loaves and fishes and who have been
rewarded with Minister ship. What more can
we expect ? We feel that it is Shri Siddhartha
Shankar Ray and Shri Priyaranjan Das
Munsi who are ruling over Orissa and not
Shrimati Nandini Satpathy. She will not be
able to fulfil the hopes and aspirations of the
people.

I would conclude with the following sug-
gestions. First of all, if regional imbalance
has to be removed, then planning should be
decentralised. Instead of from the top from
the Yojana Bhavan, it should start from the
panchayat to the district and State level and
then it should come to the Centre. Secondly,
there should be the creation of the basic
infra-structure like irrigation, power, roads,

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railways, educational facilities etc., for skilled
workers, hospitals and workshops, and the
incentives suggested by the Pande and Wanchoo
Working groups of the Planning Commission
have to be fully implemented in letter and
spirit. Unless these things arc done and early
steps are taken in this behalf, I fear that
India’s unity is in danger. Bangla Dcsh is an
eye-opener.

SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GOSWAMI
(Gauhati) ; Mr. Deputy-Speaker, Sir, I come
from a land of paradox. It is a paradox in
the sense that I come fiom that State and
that area which contributes the largest amount
of foreign exchange for this country ; I come
from that area which provides this country
with oil ; I come from that area which is the
scat of different ethnic groups, caste and people
of different tribes, and obviously an area of
this nature should be rich, but the paradox of
it is that it is one of the most backward
regions of the State.

We speak with great regret that even
though 25 years have elapsed since Indepen-
dence, we have not seen much of an im-
provement in that region A very unfortunate
thing is that the basic factors which require
immediate attention from the Central Govern-
ment in many respects have not been attended
to. Many Members have already talked about
the infrastructure. It is extremely unfortunate
that in the entire eastern region, even the
minimum requirement of infrastructure for
the growth of the economy is not there.

For example, the first requirement is the
requirement of communication. We have said
that if there should be industrial or agricultural
development in that region worth the name,
then there should be proper communication,
and a very minimum request has been made
to the Central Government for the extension
of the broad gauge railway line to Assam.
Even though there has been repeated demand
from the people of Assam for this minimum
requirement, yet this has not been attended to.

We have recently seen that the prospect
of proper agricultural production in the State
has been completely upset by the recurrence
of floods not once or twice but thrice in a
year. Therefore, we cannot but ask the
Central Government to have some schemes
whereby the situation created by the Brahm-
putra bursting its banks can be handled and
solved. But we have found that due to inter-
nAinisterial lack of co-ordination, no decision
has so far been taken in that respect. Though

development of backward 386
areas (Motn.)
the Brahmaputra Flood Control Commission
has been constituted, it is remaining idle for
want of funds.

Thirdly, even in the State from which you
Mr. Deputy Speaker, come, Meghalaya,
nothing has been done in this sphere Meghalaya
is rich in mineral resources. There is tre-
mendous scope for development of agro-indus-
tries. There is considerable scope for the
development of fruit preservation industries.
There exists tremendous scope for development
in other hill regions too. But nothing has been
done so far in this direction. We have not
seen any agricultural or industrial develop-
ment of which we can be proud.

Therefore, m the limited time at my dis-
posal, I would ask the new Planning Minister
who is undoubtedly a dynamic personality. ,

SHRI PILOO MODY (Godhra) : And
his old assistant. #

SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GOS-
WAMI : By his dynamism, he will undoubte-
dly carry his assistant with him. We would
like him to come to our assistance about the
interest of our State. We would request him
to create an infra-structure in our region so
that there may be proper industrial and agri-
cultural development.

Here I make a suggestion. As industrialists
are very much reluctant to go to this region,
whenever industrial licences are given to
monopoly houses, it should be with the
condition that the industrial undertakings
must be located in the backward regions. I
think a list of priorities in regard to backward
regions must be drawn up in clear terms.

SHRI PILOO MODY : The law does
not allow it.

SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GOS-
WAMI : If so, we have sufficient powers to
amend the law.

My second submission is that if in-
dustrialists represent and Government fed
that the indigenous people are at a great
disadvantage in locating their industries in
those regions, they could even consider giving
a tax holiday to those industrial concerns.
This undoubtedly will please Shri Mody and
meet with his approval. In making this
suggestion, I am not wanting to make the
rich richer. I am making it order that the
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[Shri Dinesh Chandra Goawami]
rich and also black money might come to
surface in the form of white money and be of
use in the industrial development of the
country. Undoubtedly, if by declaring a tax
holiday, we can achieve the purpose of bridging
the gap of regional imbalances, that will be
of great benefit to the country. I hope the
Minister of Industrial Development will
consider this with other Ministers.

In the short time at my disposal, it is not
possible to catalogue the various deficiencies
of our State ; also this debate is not intended
for that purpose. The purpose of this debate
is to focus the Government’s attention in
general terms on the urgent needs of backward
regions in regard to development. I am sure
that our new Minister and his Ministry will
undoubtedly make an integrated approach
particularly for the development of these
regions.

After all, we have got 4 a massive mandate
from the people. When we go back to our
people, the question asked of us is : what are
you doing after we have given you a big
mandate ? Obviously, in the years to come
if we cannot do anything in this direction, it
will bring discredit to the entire nation.
Therefore, to fulfil the mandate the people
have given us, I request that immediate and
urgent attention be bestowed on the develop-
ment of not only Assam, Meghalaya and
Arunachal Pradesh but the entire eastern
region which is so rich in cultural traditions
and industrial and agricultual potentialities.

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development of backward 388
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SHRI K. D. MALAVIYA (Domariaganj):
Sir, my friend Shri Jyotirmoy Bosu revealed
to us certain figures which should be painful
reminders to us that we are still far from a
satisfactory situation which can really please
us. But it is no use complaining against what
has not been done so far, because there are
certain very basic reasons which should be
apparent to my fiiends in the opposition and
to us also and those basic reasons arc not
going to be solved in a day or two or in a
year or two or even in five years. Let us be
quite clear about that. Otherwise, day in
and day out, the opposition throws wordy
stones at us and it does not affect us. Let us
try to find out why an area becomes back-
ward or forward in a country.

16.36 hrs.

[ Shri K. N. Tiwary in the Chair ]

After all, why should Bombay be so pro-
gressive and forward and Orissa is backward
economically, socially and from other points
of view ? There arc certain inherent situations
which obtain and which need to be considered.
I would like to draw attention to those condi*

393 Schmes for SRAVANA 23 , 1894 {SAKA) development of backward 394

areas (Motn.)

tions but there is no time for it. I will at
present only give some suggestions for the
consideration of the Planning Ministers who
are sitting here.

One thing appears to be quite clear.
Millions of people who are unemployed to-
day cannot get employment by merely organi-
sing small-scale or cottage industries in the
backward areas. The fact of the matter is
that you cannot develop small-scale or cot-
tage industries in proverbially backward areas
where the industrial culture or way of life
has not developed. It will take a long time
for Balia or Basti to see a miniplant prosper
as it would prosper in a place like Kanpur or
Bombay. I am not against such plants but
what I am emphasising now is a known alter-
native. We in the Congress Party have recent-
ly pledged ourselves to implement a very big
programme of re-distribution of land in rural
areas. That has the implication of economic
development in such a way that you will not
find a quicker method of economic develop-
ment. Mdlions can find employment by the
development of land in our rural areas, but
millions cannot find employment through
small-scale industries in a short space of time.
This is a fundamental question which must
receive the attention of government. What-
ever pledges we have made, whatever instruc-
tions have been received by the Chief Minis-
ters with regard to re-distribution of land,
agricultural development, etc., they must
receive precedence and be implemented in the
most honest way. Come what may, the land
must be recovered from those who do not
deserve to hold it. If they still retain the
land and only distribute it to their servants
and ben. i mis, nothing can be done about the
development of backward areas. What I want
to emphasize is that the first necessity, the
first programme which confronts us today is
the development of that rural land which is
still in the possession of the people who can-
not develop it. It is the state which has to
come forward to develop those areas foi those
people, and it has to be done urgently.

Secondly, planning has to start from
below. Although this has been talked about
in a big way for a number of years, this has
not been done. I make a concrete suggestion.
Let us choose about ten districts in the whole
country. Let the District Magistrates of
those districts convene a conference of impor-
tant non-official workers of that district. I
do not think they will number more than
1,000 to 1,500. Let there be a convention of

those people for three or four days under the
chairmanship of the District Magistrate. Let
those people make suggestions with regard to
small schemes which they consider necessary
in their own areas like small roads, hospitals,
tubewells, schools etc. Some representatives
of the State Government and the planning
division of the Central Government should
attend this convention and record the sugges-
tions. In other words, planning should ema-
nate from these people. Then you can create
in them a feeling of association, that they
have made a suggestion which has been consi-
dered and accepted. Then it will become a
peoples’ plan. I do not say that you have to
accept all their suggestions but most of them
you will find you will have to accept.

So, the programme of agricultural develop-
ment and redistribution of land require most
serious consideration by the Central Govern-
ment. You mujt create some machinery by
which you see that the programme is imple-
mented. That will give us millions and
billions of rupees every year which will go
ultimately to create a situation where urban
poverty can also be taken care of. If you
only talk of giving small-scale industries in
rural areas and creating mini-steel plants
where it cannot be done, then you are only
wasting time. So, the first priority is the
implementation of the land programme and
the second is to start planning from district
levels by associating the people who live
there.

SHRI B. K. DASCHOWDHURY : Mr.
Chairman, the Resolution emphasizes that
the Central Government should come forward
with ambitious plans so that the backward
regions might come up to the level of the
other regions within a shorter period. Even
according to the Planning Minister’s own
admission, no development has been made to
those areas during the last few years. If you
take the statistics of the two decades you will
find that the number of people w r ho arc
living in object poverty and below the stan-
dard is remaining the same.

I quote from the Approach to the Fifth
Five Year Plan, para 3 :

“Economic development in the last
two decades has resulted in an all round
increase in per capita income and the pro-
portion of the poor defined as those living
below a basic living standard of consump-
tion has slightly come down. Yet, the
absolute number of people below the

395

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AUGUST 16, 1972

[Shri B. K. Daschowdhury]

poverty line today it just as large at it
was two decades ago.*’

Further, it says that if this process is to be
continued, to remove these regional imbalan-
ces or to make up the shortages of backward
areas upto si certain standard throughout the
country, it may take 30 to 50 years or even
more. It is their own admission.

I quote another one line more :

“Available projections suggest that
if one were to rely on the growth alone
without directly tackling the problem of
unemployment and income distribution,
it may take another 30 to 50 years for the
poorer sections of the people to reach the
minimum consumption level.”

So, the only question, to finish within a very
short span of time that is available to the
Members today, is whether the Government
will agree to the suggestions put forward by
the hon. Members that there should be a
separate development authority to give a
momentum so that the huge momentum of
generation of development schemes may come
up in the course of a few years upto the
normal standard throughout the country.
This is the only course.

In the Fifth Five Year Plan also, certain
measures have been taken. Unfortunately,
even those measures we find are not in a
position to cope with the gigantic problem of
the development. As a matter of fact, even
with so many measures taken for the popu-
lation control, the birth control, the popu-
lation is increasing at such a rapid rate and
the number of persons living in adject poverty
is also increasing. There is no way out. It
is only if the Government of India comes
forward to tackle the situation on a war-
footing, not only by suggesting certain mea-
sures, as for example, small farmers, develop-
ment programme, that of marginal farmers,
agricultural labour and some other sectors.
It is not enough. I quite admit that these
are certain incentives to makeup the deficiency
to make up the gap.

As far as West Bengal’s per capita income
is concerned, as stated by my hon. friend —
without coming to the real point of discussion
today, he has stated many figures — the per
capita income in 1969-70, is 511. But I pose
another question, to give the district- wise
per capita income. The statement was laid on
the 19th April, 1972. I quote them. Though

development of backward 396
areas (Motn.)

in general it is said, considering there are
certain districts where the per capita income is
far far less, it is stated, Purulia— 197, Cooch-
Behar — 229, Bankura — 229, Midnapore — 231,
Malda — 245 and all these variations, varying
from 197 to 389 in Howrah. The per capita
income of Calcutta is not stated here. But it
must be more. The average per capita of
income for West Bangal being 511, it must
be round about 1000 or a little more.

In view of all this thing, it is quite clear
that backward areas are remaining as back-
ward, backward regions are remaining as
backward, even with certain incentives here
and there for the development of backward
area. It is not meeting with the real situation
a gigantic problem, that has to be taken up
and shouldered by this Government. Back-
ward areas will remain backward whatever
might be the incentives announced from time
to time, unless the basic infra-structure, as said
by several other hon. Members also of
development is there.

Now, it has been stated by the Govern-
ment of India that to increase this basic
infra-structure of development, such as,
communications, irrigation, electricity, these
things are to be taken up by the State Govern-
ment. Even I quite appreciate that these are
the State Government's responsibility. But
considering the huge problem, the question
is whether it would be very difficult on the
part of the Government of India to take up
all those schemes so that the basic infra-
structure of development, particularly in these
backward regions throughout the country
might be taken up under a special develop-
ment authority by the Government of India.

I have already moved an amendment tc>
insert after ‘Bihar’ the five districts of North
Bengal such as Gooch-Behar, Jalpaiguri.
Darjeeling, West Dinajpur and Malda.
These five districts are giving huge profits to
the national exchequer by way of their forest
products. (Interruption) These five districts
are having a population of nearly 50 lakhs,
i.e., one-sixth or one-seventh of the total
population of the State of West Bengal —
even minus Calcutta ; — these five districts
are giving one-third of the total agricultural
wealth generated in the State. For that
reason, Sir, no further development has been
taken up there — no industry, no road commu-
nication, no irrigation projects, no electricity
project. It was accepted by the Prime
Minister and the other hon. Ministers here

391 Schemes fir SRAVANA 25,

by Mr. Mohan Dharia also ; he replied to the
House ‘Yes ; there shall be a North Bengal
Development Board'. (Interruption) Unfortu-
nately the North Bengal development, along
with the development plans of the Develop-
ment Authority for the progress and develop*
ment of Sunderban, Bankura and Purulia
districts, has not yet been taken up. Take,
for example, irrigation and electricity. I
know, West Bengal Government has taken up
a gigantic programme for rural electrification.
The total quantum of electricity that is
available today is about 1,000 megawatts.
But if the West Bengal Government is to
develop that to the extent. Of having electri-
city throughout all the villages in the State
of West Bengal, according to the present,
rate, it will require about 2,300 megawatts.
To have this additional 1300 megawatts of
power, will it be possible for the West Bengal
Government alone to construct huge projects ?
So, considering all these things, I would only
impress "upon the hon. Minister and the
Government of India through you that we
should have a certain Centrally-sponsored
Development Authority throughout the country
to develop the backward regions, to create
basic infra-structure so that the infra —
streture will lead to further development and
the proverty will be minimised in a certain
limited period.

SHRI NIMBALKAR (Kolhapur) : This
is a very important subject. Many of us want
to speak, but the time at our disposal is very
short. 1, therefore, suggest that the time for
this debate may please be extended.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE (Kanpur) :
The time may be extended by two hours.

SOME HON. MEMBERS The time
may be extended.

MR. CHAIRMAN : There are many
members from all sections of the House who
want to speak on this. So, we will not be
able to finish it before 5.30 p. m. There are
bo many names from this side of the House
as well as from the other side of the House.
The debate will go on upto 5.30 p. m. At
5.30 p. m. the half-an-hour discussion will be
taken up. The debate on this will be carried
forward tomorrow. Those who will not get
the time today will be given time tomorrow.

I am not in favour of extending the time of
the House today.

AN HON. MEMBER . What is the time
allotted for this tomorrow ?

1894 (SAKA) development of backward 398
areas ( Motn .)

THE MINISTER OF PARLIAMEN-
TARY AFFAIRS AND SHIPPING AND
TRANSPORT (SHRI RAJ BAHADUR) s
At least three to four hours will be needed to
accommodate the members from all sections
of the House. This is a crucial problem. You
may please communicate this to Speaker and
get more time allotted for this becaus^we
would certainly like our Planning Minis^^o
have the benefit of the views expressed from
different sections of the House. It is a matter
in regard to which we all feel very strongly in
which we are all interested. So, the debate
may continue till 5.30 and then some more
time may be allotted some other day.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Why some
other day ? Why not tomorrow ?

SHRI RAJ BAHADUR : How is it possi-
ble ? The Speaker is against extending the
time after 6. He has expressed it on the floor
of the House.

•

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Upto 5.30
I agree. You take a motion and let the
House extend the time.

SHRI RAJ BAHADUR : Tomorrow' we
are having the (Constitution (Amendment)
Bill. It is a very non- controversial Bill. We
have kept it for the whole day. In case it is
passed early and if the House so pleases,
whatever time that may remain after discu-
ssion and passing of the Constitution (Amend-
ment) Bill may be utilised for this discussion.

MR. CHAIRMAN : The Business Advi-
sory Committee is meeting morrow. This will
be put up before the Committee and they will
decide the time and other things. The hon
Minister is on the Committee. Because the
Constitution (Amendment) BiH is there before
the House, it will be taken up first and the
decision of the Committee will be communica-
ted to the House.

SHRI VASANT SATHE (Akola) : After
the Constitution (Amendment) Bill, if there is
time, we may utilise it for this.

MR. CHAIRMAN: That I said. The
item will be put down but the Committee will
decide about the time and when it will be
brought before the House for discussion. The
Minister will communicate it to you.

SHRI RAJ BAHADUR : I hope the
hon. Members will certainly co-opcrate with
us in having the Constitution (Amendment)
Bill passed as early as possible.

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AUGUST 16, 1972

400

development of backward

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF PLANNING (SHRI
MOHAN DHARIA) : Sir, I agree that this
discussion be given more time. But, unfortu-
nately, as there are some prior engagements
fixed for Mr. Dhar, that will not be conve-
nient to him though it may be convenient
to me. So, in that context, I suggest that this
may be kept in view and if not tomorrow, it
may be day after tomorrow.

SHRI VASANT SATHE : We want both
of you to be present.

MR. CHAIRMAN : The Minister of
Parliamentary Affairs is here and he has
noted it down. He will certainly take note of
your convenience.

Shri D. N. Tiwary

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nt ifit ^t rnenff itt ansaft 'Ttaffam ir
16af¥, 1 7aft Tfaffapr ^f nf | I «PTT ^ff

areas ( Motn .)

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if apft 5 F|t Ff %arn nar Fnm# % ***»ft-
if »Rf 9 f f t ft aninff i anra-

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arnR | affi aff>ff ttr

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401 Schemes for SRAVANA 25, 1694 (SAKA) development of backward 402

areas (Moln.)

masr jf #q qft p a#sar qft amTqt 5ft
rnqft an«fr qt qfr | % %aar $, ^

8RT*T ^ftST afft #qraw | faRqft
amTqt tft? ITT f? q?*t? ft I I f5Rt
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t I ...(«mR)... 5Tt # qf q?fqT qTfeTT
«TT ft? ^iTT q?T qftlTT ?Tt 4 fqfR q?T 3ft
| qarqft 'R-fftsr ?qq?q arrq NP fr
far# qft 5ft q?ft 125 qo, ;pff 145 50
afta q?ft 150 qo 1 gjtir qrqp #? qq?

am far# qft amqqt 3fft afqrar qaq#
qft amqqt sent ft 1 1 qf% fqfR qft
fqerqt m-rfon ?qq?q | mqft qq? qt«ni
qr ^t? fqfit arrqqqt sar ?srft? qft 1 1
eft f#R arrq qqr q?T# arr | ? #
arqfm f arrqqrt qq? iwk qqtqft
qqrqt qrff<? aft fa: fefa^qs if, qft qfr
qt fq?q£ irftqT |, qarqft am q?# arta
mrq qq?n# ft? qqq# q^qf# ## ft
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1 1 ^ ^t ft 150 q» ^r 500 qo <tx-
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q?pft arr q% arf t ?enft arrqqqt q?q |
afft aftqf qrt f rarer fanft ^rrq 1 1
qt ft qft% qq qT r?rft-

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arT^ft eft pi armqqt q? qq?qt 1 1 %ft?q
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1 1 ^q? qqq? srftqe t, aft 15 anaff %
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qrqt? qq qT I %ft?q qf^ qq% anq qf
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qaqft qt q^t | ft? qtq Fqfra Jf, qT
arff arft qft qq arqft | qfT, qf q?q
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aft qf f q?>f | ft qft fqqrq ^qr: ^q^tq
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qT qT^tq ^qajt qft | qfr %qa art aft?
arta qqqft p arrqqqt q? aft? 1 5ft am
qft % ftnt qqT qra^t ap a:|| ?

qfter qqTfa apq ^ff? % arm ir
^a?q qt<> % faft qrqftrq qqT qT
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q^t ftrqT, arta qqqft fq^rfwf q?T f^qt-
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f q aftqf ft q?f qqqr ftq%%qq fqqr ft?
qtq fqfR fqqqqj q?^t qqnft am 1
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5ftq arrq 5rq? qaiT q^t fqqefr 1 aftq qf?#*
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403 Schemes for AUGUST 16, 1972 development of backward 404

areas ( Motn .)

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T^t I

*rf SiRq ?3T7 cfa qq q^f aft 5Tt
qq% qf^r fa*qfq%q ff qa;*ur ^
TfTg:

“Balanced development of
different parts of the country, exte-
nsion of the benefit parts of economic
progress to the less — developed
regions and wide — spread diffusion
of industry are among major aims
of planned development.

arsNr 30, 1956 qft ?q qrnrtft ?t
kffc^qq <TKT fw «TT I qq ^ft^qq

Jf q^ifc arn; ^fkqr % qf ^ «rr fir :

“That it is aim of planning to
help the areas lagging behind indus-
trially, and continuous efforts should
be made to make vital facilities avai-
lable if the location of industries is
otherwise suitable' 1 .

%qqq t^qqihr sflffqq fqqif arfafrrK

fW TT7!ft I, 27 fqqWR, 1969 sp>

antft qtfkr if cHT frqt fo -

“(l) decided to encourage setting
up industrial undertakings in the back-
ward areas.

“(2) special aid for backward
areas".

qt srrar q?|ft qq ^ «ff 1 qq% qR fra^r
qq 1971 Jf fq^ft Jf tr^ JffqqR |3TT
«tt irPror: an^ tfart^r arm

sr%5T JrfiTTTT sfi ^RTTf?r

f?TTTSf ^ %• TT5^5 f-FTT «TT I «ff ^T^TTk
PfTTsf ^7: 5k?r % 55T Tpaff | 1
«rr fi> sr^r
Tf ftr :

.meagre investment by the centre
and financial institutions is one of the
factors holding up the State’s advance".

st-pr ?ffr JrfsR
^R f4RT sres Jfff I I *nf 7T5T Jf ^>TT
^5TT 3TRT | I T^ir 5Tf tfft ??TT% ^ ^
srtT: vfr »r^ 1 1 Jf «ff fwrr-

=^R «TfcT % >ff «rr :

“..called for an achievement-orie-
nted approach to the economic develop-
ment of UP".

«rr fr ^qrttii Jr ^rR
^ Tf? qr 57T Jf 1 7k TRTf % TPR7ST

^TRT 3TT ^•RTT I ^ qRT iRT | f¥

sr^r qryif Jf frepn |3rr 1 1 Jrfoq

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t, sksr % qRT, smff, srRfk ark
15^157: jf TR% 3qRT fq^T

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tfff q?r>r q?qr 1 1 qsfk q^qr q

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fqif qrq qtf ^ {£ I 3pT^ q^f T>|

ar®3!T qr qqfq q^qr qqrqt arrqT qr

405 Schemes for SRAVANA 25,

qqift qft qftlftrer qft aqqt eft arfttq q?i
fercrr affq q qrerc afa anar qgt % qtqft
spt qWqTqfts qftf fftq *gT I ftftt ftqfft
q fttert i qqqft qpmqftq aft?:

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tt ft£tf*qq qger | i ?qftr qiq qrq
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qg ^tt^TT^T qgt n>TPTT art qqreTC ft,
ftfq^r ?q er*q> qrqq % qftf sqr^r qff
f%?TT i arcqTqqq % ercqqf qft qrftt ft 1
?q qq?;°T ft ^tsrr aft farm %?ff ft qcqrer
ft ararqrcft q?qq 3 ; ft qrs arrar ft 1 %qq
qrr m^q arreft ft 1 arq* q*ercar ft qftf
arm qrft eft Praft fqft aprg qm ft
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1 1 q ar^jrc q?: qftf jrc ft aft?: q ftt %q
qqt q?: arcar erqr qftf 33- qqT ft 1 %q
qgq ^f#t qqt 1 1 src q?; 3?r eft qrqt
ftt qqm arc qqrerc «rc 1 ftfqrq q^fttrc
?tct ft ftr ?q er?q> qftf sqTq qftf fan
qqr I I aTKT eft?: ft fq?5?T | 3 TT ft
aft?: ?rcq ftf ?rcq 3 ?ftrc?sf 5 ft 1 qgt qft
arqerc qft anqTqrcq % ercqq tft farcft
qrfgq 1

35ft qft qrrct % qrRg q*rc arcqTqqq
qft argfqqr % q^ sqTqi?: q* ftt qrrqft
f ?nr arq?: q?r ft 1 ?w ft fq> q^f % aftq
ftt arfsrc? qftq |>ft arc | I anarrft %
arc? q?ft ?rcrcfft ft !rcqftf?3t arft ^
ft ^rrc §ft t q^t ?qm farm aft?:
ffftrc^fq m aft?: qqft frcft f ^

fftft «ft^ qqq; qft 1 1

^ qr?qt q^fttrc | aft qftqrcer q?: |
qjqT efoft ar^t qT?ft fttft qqrqft^f
fftrcerc % \ q^t fttft % qTftt ^?r mr^rc
| \ faerft qftt ft sr? erro aftf qft,

1894 (SAKA) development of backward 406
areas (Motn.)

?qft qaft arc ?^t 1 1 q?qqT ft qq rc^qs
qft^ wrcq q^lf fftqi ft 1 qq eR's ftt
arcq^T «rcq arm mfftft i

qq frcTft ft fqesm ft^qf ftt
qrftt ft 1 3?ftqiqq ft qftft ^aftfqqfeq
mftq qftf ft 1 ftqtqrq qqftar anft irrcft
ft ft 1 ftff q arnft % faftq^q wrft
ft ftqNrrc qirftq qftf ft 1 ftfftqr ?ft
qftf ft 1 q^T % artq ftqr ft ar«^ fft? ftt
qq^ ft 1 ftfrq ?q errq; qftft sqrq qftf
fqqT qqr ft 1 ^q?: qft fqrerc qft

fqsrqrq: fr:^jer+ arm q?rc ft qVr ?i^
fq:g?qr qt ftr anqlf qrffti? 1 q^ej
?qq ft qrtr eft?: ft fftsrq q^qiq ^ qq
'fttq q?T fteft ft 1, fqfsTerf qq ar^qier q«ft
% qanq q:q gan ft i qfqfareff qq ar^qrer
q? r ft 1 arcqqft qg anqqr?: anqqq fttm
fqr qeq qftrc ft fthft farm aft?: qeq qftq
% qfqqq fqqjq ft ^qqr ft q^qiqt arc?: ft

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srcfarc qqr eft?ff ft ftq qqr qftf ft?qt ft 1
qgf ftrcft qft qrrc ft qrq srrq mer qft i
qqr fterc arrqft qrq fqqT fttqT eft arcqT-
qqq % mqq qgt qqqaq ftt arcft 1

marc3?: ft argr qq ^qfttqrq afr qq
aqq g 3 rc m 3ft?: farcrqft apr?qft ftt ^r
qqrft qT ?ft ft qgt q* q^TCT qqt VT
apr?; 3^ qqT fqqT q?rc ftterc eft qg qfeqT
qgq faftftq qrr arm 1 3d rcqqT ft fqr
?q rcTqrT?: qft ftqfq arm®T ftt qf ft
aft* q?:qq* 3ft qrftf qq faqq* gf ft 1
fqfttqrcr aft ft qrgr ftt *rc :

qg qfttq sfq qTq qq qTq?: qr^r rcr?:

qTfg fqqTfq qiqftt qrgg qftq qqm?: 1

5 ^ qqerr ft fqr arq qftf qq^T* qftt ftt
qqqn ft 1 q*q:R anre q>m qr^ft ft arq-
qft ft eft qg fqftt % frcft arcrg graft qr*
ft 1 ? q q?aq* gt fiprlft arqpsq ftt qf

f «

407 Schemes for AUGUST

SHRI CHINTAMANI PANIGRAHI
(Bhubaneswar) : I want to pinpoint certain
things with regard to the backward areas’
development* However I must at the outset
refer to what my friend from the Swatantra
party said about me in reference to the Naval
Training Institute. I am happy to know that
he has a very dear heart for me. I know why
he is so despaired. This Parliament has taken
out the privileges of the ex-rulers and also
their privy purse. The people of Orissa have re-
luctantly divested these ex-rulers of their power
also. I understand why Shri P. K. Deo feels
so much despaired after being divested of the
three Ps because of the growing people's power
in this country. But I do not despair. I try
to get things done

Shri Dharia and Shri Dhar are in charge
of planning. Poverty is a gigantic problem in
the country. Some latest studies have been
made with regard to the magnitude of this
problem in this country by Mr. Dandekar.
In those studies it has coinc out that at the
beginning of the Fourth Plan out of 532.7
million people, 223.5 million, that is 41.9 per
cent, live below the poverty line in this coun-
try. The per capita income is Rs. 324 for the
rural population and Rs. 486 foi the urban
population. And 41.9 per cent live below
this level. But neither the gross national
product nor the average per capita income is
any real index of general prosperity because
in many villages I know that there are persons
who are getting not even 50 paise a day.
People have to take to the roots of the trees.
So some of these figures are misleading.

There is a cell in the Planning Commission
which had made a study of the resources in
the southeastern region which comprises 26
districts of M. P., Orissa, Bihar, West Bengal
and U. P. It is a revealing survey indeed.
It says that the region comprises 1,35,000 sq.
miles and 31.9 million people of whom 45 per
cent belong to Scheduled Castes and Tribes.
It produces 75 per cent of the country’s
mineral output in value and is endowed with
90 per rent of the coal reserves, 80 per cent
of iron and 89 per cent of the manganese
deposits and 60 per cent of the atomic ele-
ments of the nation. Its hydel power poten-
tial is estimated to yield 4217 mw, besides
unlimited scope for development of thermal
power.

Mr. Chairman you are coming from the
neighbouring region. You must be aware of
published statistics. Statistics will say that
Bihar and Orissa have got a huge public sector

16, 1972 development of backward 408

areas (Motn.)

investment. There are two steel mills and
really they are heavy capital consuming indus-
tries. The ancillary industries which need to
develop around these heavy mills which will
provide employment to millions, and by which
industries will spread to every home, these
had not been taken care of. The Planning
Commission must look into this aspect ; it is a
must.

In Orissa, we had electrified 2615 villages
out of 46,000 villages. There are States which
have got more than 5000 km of railway line
while Orissa has got only 2115 kms of railway
line. Other States have got 53, 60, 89 etc.
miles of road for every hundred square miles.
But Orissa has got only 37 miles of road per
hundred square miles. In the field of irriga-
tion, Bihar and Orissa are almost equal. In
Bihar, area irrigated is about 16 per cent
and in Orissa it is a little about 15 percent.
In the distribution of backward population,
Orissa has the highest percentage 40 per cent.
Other States have got 10, 15 or 20. This is
the magnitude of the problem of backward
regions in different spheres.

The Planning Commission lias identified
223 districts as backward districts. Why not
form a Backward Development Authority ?
Mr. Dandekar has suggested for planning for
an annual investment of Rs. 1000 crores for
some years for developing backward regions.
I suggest that there should be a Backward
Areas Development Authority with an initial
capital of Rs. 8090 crores, with mandatory
power from Parliament. It should not be like
the boards set up for Rayalaseeina in Telen-
gana. These kinds of boards devoid of manda-
tory authority never help.

The Planning Commission has allotted 10
per cent of the entire plan for the backward
States. But if you look into the budget of the
State Governments, what do you find ? Capital
attracts capital. Infrastructure attracts indus-
tries. These are the economic laws. The
only regions which advance are the region*
around metropolitan cities like Calcatta, Delhi,
Bombay and Madras 46 per cent of the indus-
tries in West Bengal are situated within 40
miles of Calcutta. Similarly Bombay. This
problem of regional imbalance should be
solved in the remaining two years of the fourth
plan and in the fifth plan. I insist that during
these years, regional imbalances must be
corrected. We invite Mr, Dharia and Mr.
Dhar to come and visit the backward regions
and identify them. Let them have district
planning cells. Every district must have a

409

kdations with

SRAVANA 25, 1894 (SAKA) China {ti.AM. Disc.) 410

planning unit. Whatever money you are
going to allot in the remaining two years of
the fourth plan and in the fifth plan for the
backward regions, you should separately allot
so much money for each backward district
and that district development authority will
be authorised to utilise that money.

Of course, the Planning Commission have
taken certain steps for removal of regional
imbalances. They have appointed committees
and the reports of the committees are there.
You should de-license the backward regions in
respect of industries so that they can be star-
ted in the backward areas. Then, it is said
there is black money to the extent of Rs.
3000 or 4000 crores. Give them five years'
time to go to the backward areas and invest
their black money there for turning it into
white money and in the process develop the
223 backward districts. My suggestion may
not appear radical to some, but I think this
can be considered.

MR. CHAIRMAN : Before taking up the
Half-an-Hour discussion I want to make one
point very dear. The fixation of more time
for this motion will go to the Business Advisory
Committee. So far as the day for further
discussion of this motion is concerned, that
will be decided by the Government.

17.30 hrs.

HALF-AN-HOUR DISCUSSION
Normalisation of Relations with China

SHRI SAMAR GUHA (Contai) : Mr.
Chairman, just a few days before, in reply to
one of my questions, Shri Surendra Pal Singh
replied that our Ambassador in Waisaw had
a courtesy meeting with his Chinese counter
part there. I would have been happy if it had
been described as “a couiteous meeting of
exchange of good will between Indian and
Chinese Ambassadors”.

It is good news that our charge d ' affairs in
Peking, Shri Brijesh Mishra, had a good chat
with the Chinese officials in Peking on the
15th August celebrations in our mission there.
It came over the radio and I say it is a good
sign. Though it will be disappointing to us
that China has blocked the entry of Bangla-
desh into UNO, I think wc need not be too
much disappointed because wc have given the
opportunity to Shri Bhuttoo to play the
diplomatic game on us with the help of
China. For instance, if we had agreed to
enter into a peace treaty with Pakistan, after

the recognition of Bangladesh perhaps Shri
Bhutto would not have got an opportunity to
play China on Bangladesh.

I want to caution the Government that
some kind of a new pattern of new politics is
developing. At least, Shri Bhutto is trying to
develop a new politics of Pindi-Peking-Tchran
axis. And I believe Government know the
Shah of Iran has shown a certain gesture to
Peking. I think our Foreign Ministry has
taken note of that.

Recently, a very radical political step has
been taken by the Big Powers. The border line
of the international politics of alignment and
non-alignment is almost missing. I think a
completely new pattern is developing in in-
ternational depiomatic relations after the
meeting of Mr. Nixon with Mr. Mao Tse
Tung and Mr. Biezhnev.

The Hon. Minister should also take note of
the fact that there is radical change in the
inside politics of China. After the Cultural
Revolution of China wc noticed a certain
tendency. That tendency is gradually chang-
ing to a new pattern of diplomacy. China is
trying to normalise its relations with other
powers from whom it tried to withdraw.
Another significant factor is that some kind
of metamorphosis is going on inside China.
The tussle between the civil wing and the
military wing of the Communist Party is
coming to an end. With the liquidation of
Lia Piao, the civil wing is more or less in
control to decide the fate of China. That is
a very significant event in regard to Chinese
politics and Chinese point of view on inter-
national relations We already notice certain
changes, at least in their attitude towards
Vietnam, Cambodia and Laos and her ap-
proach to Japan.

I should also like to draw your attention
to the fact that China’s attitude towards India
is also changing. In 1967, 1968 and in 1969
perhaps, we remember almost every day, China
was encouraging Naxalites ovci Peking Radio
and China was thinking — some news appeared
in their official paper — that Indian States were
going to disintegrate. They were giving all
kinds of inspiration to Naxalites to go ahead.
But they have now changed their attitude.
Not only they have stopped that, not only
they are not supporting Naxalites, but certain
radical changes have taken place in the Sub-
continent...

AN HON. MEMBER : What about their
support to Pakistan ? ( Interruption .)

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412

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : What I was
going to say is that we certainly find China
has noticed that Naxalite problem has com-
pletely changed theie is no hope for the
Naxalitcs, and the China's attitude towards
Naxalitcs and the forces of disintegration has
also changed. China has noticed that all
their help to Nagas, and Mizos has also
failed ; that the batches of Nagas and Mizos
they had trained have been caught by
India. Then, China has noticed that with the
annihilation of Pakistani rule over Bangladesh,
there is a radical change in regard to the
possibility of poking their nose in the Indian
sub-continent. Apart from that, wc have
noticed a certain low-key attitude of China
during the conflict between India and Pakistan
in relation to Bangladesh.

I mention all this because China wanted
to have a certain point or political base to
enter into the politics of Indian sub-continent.
The things have changed. China is now being
obliged to make a thorough change, if I may
not use the word “thoiough" change but a
certain change is already indicated in the
attitude of China towards India.

I want to quote Han Suyin’s interview, in
November 1971, from a Chinese papers in
which she has made a very significant state-
ment after meeting one of the dose associates
of Chou En-lai. It says :

“China desires India to be strong
and at peace. . "

“The olficial insistently remarked the
sub-continent should be kept clear of big
power influence and the aim of “im-
perialist powers” to shower mistrust and
provoke ( lashes between India and
China. . . .

MR. CHAIRMAN: This is Unstarred
Question No. 634 on which you have raised a
half-an-hour discussion. The Question was
put by Shri S. M. Banerjce and Shri R. S.
Pandcy, The Minister’s reply is, “India is
still awaiting China’s response to her earlier
move in this regard.”

Now, you arc giving your own impres-
sions as to what is China doing.

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA (Alipore) :
This is a very profound analysis that he is
making.

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : I know that
there is a group of politicians in India.
Whenever there is any alignment or good

gesture to other than one axis, that cicatcs
trouble with them* Wc understand their
politics. I understand Mr. Indrajit Gupta
also quite well. And further, the Report
says :

“He hopes that ‘India will see her
way clear of the control of her own
destiny. . . .'

“China desires that India should
remain united and independent. It is not
in the interest of any one except im-
perialism, open or disguised, that India
should break up.”

This is a statement which is very important. I
mention this because there arc certain indica-
tions of change in China’s attitude towaids
India.

There is another point about the axis of
rivalry. That China has also radically
changed. That was mainly with India, After
1962, the axis has changed. This axis is no
longer there. This is not the axis of rivalry
between Delhi-Peking but now it is between
Peking-Moscow. We should realise its signi-
ficance. It is good and I appreciate the
Government that they arc not over-playing the
Indo-Sovict Peace Treaty. Rather, our
Government is emphasizing the politics of
non-alignment and the politics of self-reliance.
This is absolutely necessaiy. It is absolutely
necessary for our future relations with China.
If you really want to develop a base of peace
in the sub-continent, it is essential that we
disentangle ourselves from all international
bloc alignments. It is essential that we try to
develop good neighbourly relations with China.
In fact China is now afraid of a weaker India.
But China will appreciate a stronger India.
A weaker India may play the role of a second
fiddle to some big power. About the new axis,
the new axis of rivalry between Peking and
Moscow may affect India to go on the side
against China Therefore, China will prefer a
stronger India and not a weaker India. The
political situation has changed.

Now it is the time that India should try
to take initiative in normalising relations with
China. Ours is not the position of 1962. After
1965 and 1971, the image of India in the
international world and also at home has
undergone a change. Therefore, wc can talk
with China from the point of strength and
from the point of self confidence and not with
any sense of inferiority complex.

You were now talking about the actual

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line of control in Kashmir. Thu can be an
indirect communication to China to settle our
border dispute with her.

I conclude by saying that, for the Future,
for ensuring a real, socialist base, for sodo-
economic development of India, it is absolutely
essential that the Indian sub-continent should
be made a base of peace. That peace is
possible if we can normalise our relations with
China and develop good neighbourly relations
with them. That is why I have raised this
discussion.

SHRI P. NARASIMHA REDDY (Chit-
toor) : I would like to know from the Minis-
ter of External Adairs whether any edoris or
any moves have been initiated by third
countries to bring about a better relationship
or a thaw in the relationship between India
and China. We have reports that Mrs.
Bandaranaike, Prime Minister of Ceylon,
during her visit, was instrumental to bringing
about a message or some sort of a move with
a view to breaking the immobility or the
deadlock in the relations between India and
China on account of the border dispute. I
want to know whether there is any such
move or any edorts have been made at the
initiative of this country and if so, what are
the elforts that we are making to normalise
our relationship with China, to resume our
diplomatic relations with China.

SHRI DAS AR ATI I A DEB (Tripura
East) : We had hostilities with China owing
to border dispute. But now, for the last ten
years, there has been a lull in the border. It
appears that the Government of the Peoples
Republic of China have already indicated
their eagerness to normalise relations with
India. In view of this changed situation, I
do not see any reason why it should not be
possible for India and China to normalise
their relations. I also want to know what
specific steps arc being taken by the Govern-
ment of India to establish full diplomatic
relations with China and also trade relations.
My another point is this. Every one of us
knows that imperialist America is the number
one enemy of the socialist China. If President
Nixon could go to Peking to talk to the
leaders of China to improve their relationship,
what stands in the way of the Government of
India to take the initiative to normalise the
relations with China ?

PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARASHAR
(Hamirpur) ; As a part of the process of nor-
malisation of relations with China, our Govern*

ment has been sending some feelers and one
of them, I believe, is an invitation conveyed
to the Chinese Government to take part in
the Third International Asian Trade Fair to
be held in Delhi. May I know China’s res-
ponse to this?

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416

THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL AFF-
AIRS (SHRI SWARAN SINGH): Ihavelisten-
ed with a great deal of interest to the expres-
sion of different points of view and different
emphasis that has been laid on this question.

Shri Samar Guha appears to have talked
with a great deal of insight into the intentions
of the People’s Republic of China. I am not
sure whether China has changed or not, but,
there is definitely a change in Mr. Samar
Guha. It is a welcome change, whatever may
be the background and the reasons for this
change.

We should continuously go on assessing
the situation. There is no fixed position and
if the international situation changes, then
we should also be prepared to our attitudes
and our approach to the changing situation.
That is the essence of any foreign policy and
we should take note of the changes and take
appropriate steps in older to keep pace with
these changes.

So far as the broad policy of the Govern-
ment of India is concerned, we have always
been of the view that the people of India and
the people of China are great people and they
are neighbours — geography has placed them
together — and whatever may be the differences
or disputes between the two countries, I can-
not see any escape from the ultimate emergence
of a situation where the people of India and
the people of China would live in peace and
as good neighbours.

In the meantime, we have always been of
the view that relations between India and
China should improve. There is no doubt
that relations between the two countries deteri-
orated very much ; there was an armed con-
flict between the two countries. After that
also, the general attitude of China has not
been one of expressing any friendly feeling or
friendship towards India. In fact, we have
noticed, as Mr. Samar Guha mentioned, their
support to certain disruptive elements in India.
There is also their general propaganda line
of trying to project a picture of India as a
disintegrating India, highlighting our troubles
either on the labour front or on the front of
industrial production or food production ;
this, unfortunately, has been the attitude of
China. At one time Mr. Samar Guha used
to summarise all these things in an admirable
manner and he used to urge us to take a more
militant attitude towards China. We had,
however, resisted that temptation and always

took an attitude which we thought was in
our best interests.

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : If I am a realist,
am I wrong ? If I find changes, I also change.

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : When the
praise comes, take it in good spirit. Don’t fed
rattled when you are praised. While keeping
our objective to do everything possible to
improve relations, our main effort has been
not to do anything which unnecessarily exacer-
bates relations between India and China. But,
at the same time, we have to take a realistic
view of the situation as it is today.

I have made several public statements.
I have made statements on the floor of the
House expressing our desire, our willingness,
our readiness, to improve relations with China.
Unfortunately, unless Mr. Samar Guha has
some inside information, we have not received
a good response. Our attitude still continues
to be to do everything to improve relations,
to remove misunderstanding. But, the latest
propaganda blast which China has undertaken
in several respects is not a very good develop-
ment and I do not see any noticeable change
in their attitude towards India and their atti-
tude of highlighting our difficulties, and their
trying to paint a picture which shows India
in unfavourable stance still continues.

SHRI S. M. B\NERJEE (Kanpur) : What
is your opinion about their vetoing Bangladesh’s
admission in the United Nations ?

SHRI SWARAN SINGH: On the question
of Bangladesh, the entire House knows the
attitude of the Chinese representatives. We
know what their attitude was when the situa-
tion in Bangladesh was developing and also
when the Pakistani attack came on us And
also, their attitude in the U. N. O. These £.rc
all facts, known to every one. Surely, even
if you give a most charitable interpretation,
you cannot say that they were unbiassed in
thi9 respect. Their attitude was tilted in favour
of Pakistan, and, unfortunately, in favour of
a military regime, Yahya Khan regime, which
had unleashed that terror and violence against
the people of Bangladesh.

Even today, our neighbour Bangla Desh
is recognised by four out of the five perma-
nent members of the Security Council. Over
80 members of the United Nations have alrea-
dy recognised Bangla Desh, which means that
the majority of the membership of the United
Nations has recognised Bangla Desh. But still

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SRAVANA 2$, 1894 (SAKA) Ckina (H.A M. Disc.) 418

the Chinese altitude in the United Nations
appears to be to block the entry of Bangla
Desh. It is all the more, I should say, tragic
that a country like the People’s Republic of
China, whose own entry to the United Nations
had been blocked by others is now adopting
an attitude against the majority view of the
UN members and threatening to exercise the
exceptional right which permanent members
of the Security Council have, to veto her
entry into the United Nations. The power of
veto is a power which is very sparingly exer-
cised when issues of peace and war are invol-
ved. To keep a country of 75 million out and
to threaten the use of veto is certainly not a
very encouraging feature ; which holds out
great possibilities of normalisation of relations;
in the attitude of China in relation to the
countries of the Indian sub-continent.

I am not quite sure whether President
Bhutto is making their attitude more strong
or whether it is ihe Chinese attitude which
perhaps is encouraging Mr. Bhutto again to
adopt an attitude which, according to our
assessment does not appear to be in the best
interests even of Pakistan or of President
Bhutto. But this is a fact which we cannot
ignore and we cannot explain it away and we
cannot wish it away by any argument. What-
ever may be various axes, whether it is friend-
ly between Peking and other countries or an
unfriendly attitude between Peking and third
countries, we should carefully assess our own
position and our own attitude. We were hop-
ing that relations with China would improve,
and to be quite frank, I had a feeling that
they were moving though very slowly towards
impiovement, before the situation in Bangla
Dcsh developed. We should take a realistic
view, with the Chinese attitude in relation to
the events in Bangla Dcsh, in relation to the
movement of about ten million refugees from
Bangla Desh into India, in relation to the
Pakistani attack on us, in relation to their
general assessment of what was happening in
this sub-continent where human rights of
millions of people were actually trampled
under the military pressure and military atro-
cities ; the Chinese attitude v as not such as
could by any imagination be regarded as
impartial. In fact, it was heavily weighted
in favour of the military regime which was
crushing the urges of the people of Bangla
Dcsh for their own independence and for the
preservation of their human rights.

This attitude again caused a setback to
the Blow process of improvement that was

taking shape before the events of Bangla Desh
took the shape which they did.

18 hrs.

1 am not yet clear as to whether there
has been a clear reversal or a change or even
a softening of the attitude in this respect.
Whereas our ultimate objective is clear, still
we cannot improve the relations unless there
is a response from the other side. As they
say, you cannot achieve such a thing by
unilaterally pressing your viewpoint. After
all, there have to be two to strengthen friend-
ship as also there are to be two if there is
going to be trouble. Notwithstanding our
willingness to improve relations, at the present
moment, I do not sec any clear response from
the Chinese side.

What should we do in this situation ? We
should not do anything which unnecessarily
exacerbates relations. At the same time, we can-
not continue to go on repeating this thing with-
out a projier response. So we must as a mature
nation watch the situation and should carc-
full see as to how things are emerging. We
have to safeguard our interests ; we have to
safeguard the basic interests of peace in this
sub-contincnt, of our relations with Bangla
Dcsh and with Pakistan in this neighbourhood,
and it is only in the light of this that wc can
take further steps to normalise relations.

With your permission, I would like to
answer very briefly the three questions put.
To the first by Shri Reddy, my reply is that
there has been no effort made by any third
country to take any initiative for bringing
about improvement of relations between
India and China. Our approach in this
respect has always been that whenever the
relations between these two great countries,
India and China, being neighbours, being
large countries, improve, they will improve
only by bilateral effort and any friendly
association or friendly move by a third country
is not likely to yield any useful result.

The question of sending an ambassador
or raising the diplomatic representation to
ambassadorial level is only a question of
raising the level of representation. We have
got a resident mission in Peking and Chinese
got a resident mission in Delhi. Either country
on any occasion can notify the other that it
has decided to upgrade the level of represen-
tation. No wide or important principle is
involved in this. If we find that by upgrading
the level of representation our contacts there can
be established at a higher level to some useful

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420

419

[Shri Swaran Singh]

purpose, we will not hesitate to do so* As I
said, there is no question of any wide principle
involved one way or the other in this respect.

I have already answered one question
asked by Shri Deb. The other is about trade
relations. We are prepared to have economic
relations with China. If they are prepared
to buy anything, we are prepared to sell it to
them. If we require something from China,
we are prepared to purchase from them.
Political differences need not come in the way
of economic relations.

Another question asked was about our
invitation to them for their participation in
the Trade Fair. We did extend an invitation
to them, that they should participate in the
Trade Fair being organised. We have not so
far got any response from them.

I am glad the CPI «(M) member has
quoted the example of President Nixon’s
flight to Peking. As you know, we have
always welcomed the relaxation of tension in

any part of the world, between any two
adversaries. We have also to remember that
behind President Nixon’s flight was a long
period of informal contacts and most of the
understandings, according to our information,
had been achieved even before President
Nixon went to Peking, as a result of several
contacts, about which the whole world now
knows, that were established at a fairly high
level between China and the USA.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : America
followed it up after sending a ping pong
team to China. We did not follow that
way.

Then, I think the Jan Sangh Member’s
question does not call for any reply because
he did not put any question as such to me.

18.06 hrs.

The Lok Sabha then adjourned till Eleven of
the Clock on Thursday , August 17, 1972fSravana
26, 1894 ( Saka ).

Tej Kumar Press (P) Ltd., Lucknow — 4*9-1972 — 1010*

CONTENTS

No. 13 — Thursday > August 17 , 1972jSravana 26, 1894 (Saka)

'Oral Answers to Questions —

| •Starred Questions Nos.
>Short Notice Question No 2
Written Answers to Qaestions
Starred Questions Nos.
Unstarred Questions Nos

241 to 245, 248, 250 anJ 2>I

246, 247, 249 and 252 to 260

2180 to 2392, 2394 fo 2412,
2415 to 2444, 2446 to 2456,
2458 to 2494, 2496 to 2510.
2512 to 2*21, 2523 to 2538, ,
2540 to 2546 and 2548 to
2579.

Calling Attention to Matter of Uigcnt Public Importance —

* Reported Smuggling of foreign watches etc by sim:
European Consular officials in Calcutta

Papers Laid on the Table

Messages from Rajya Sablia

Victoria Memorial (Amendment) Bill—

As passed by Rajya Sabha

Central Sales Tax Amendment) Bill —
p Report of Select Committee and Evidence

Qills Introduced —

(l) Wild Life (Protection) Bill

(li) Seeds (Amendment) Bill
Constitution (Thirtieth Amendment) Bill —

►

^lotion to consider

Shri H. R. Gokhale
Shri Somnath Chatterjee

COLUMN'S

1 -40
30 -41

40 —52

51—188

189—92

192—94

104

194

P,4-- 5

195
195

196—27
196—98. 224 -32
199-204

♦The sign -f marked above the name of a Member indicates that the question *as
dually asked on tl e House by that Member.

(ii)

Shri R. V. Bade

Shn Jagannath Rao

Shri A. K. Sen

Shri O. K. Panda

Shn R. D. Bhandare

Shn Shyamnandan Mishra

Shn Dinesh Chandra Goswami

Shri G. Viswanathan

Clauses 2, 3 and 1

Motion to Pass 7

Income Tax (Amendment) B:ll, 1972 —
Motion to consider

Shri K. Baladhandayutham
Shri K. R. Ganesh
Clauses 2 to 6 and 1
Motion to Pass
Shri Shivnath Singh
Shri K. R. Ganesh

public Debt (Amendment) Bill —
Motion to consider
Shri K. R. Ganesh
Shri Dasaratha Deb
Shri K. M. Madhukar
Shri K. Narayana Rao
Shri C. T. Dhandapani
Clauses 2 to 5 and 1
Motion to Pass
Dr. Laxminarain Pandeya

221—23 *

223—24
240—70 *
262

270—76
270—72
272—74 .
274
274

274—75

276

276—82

276—78

278

278— 79

279— 80
280
281
281
281—8^

(Hi )

Sbri K. R. Ganesh

...

COLUMNS

282

Taxation Laws (Amendment) Bill —

Motion to consider, as reported by Select Committee

282—316

Shii Yeshwantrao Chavan

...

282—88

Shri Virendra Aggarwal

...

288—91

Shri B. R. Shukla

...

291—95

Shri Dasaratha Deb

...

295—98

Shri G. Viswanathan

...

299—301

Shri K. Baladhandayutham

...

301—06

Shri K. Narayana Rao

...

307—10

Shri C. M. Stephen

...

310—14

Shri Satpal Kapur

...

314—16

LOK SABHA DEBATES

LOK SABHA

Thursday , August 17 . 1972/Sravana 26 s 1894
(Saka)

The Lok Sabha met at Eleven of the
Clock

[Mr. Speaker w the Chair ]

ORAL ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS
Bill on Industrial Relations

*241. SHRI C. T. DHANDAPANI ;
Will the Minister of LABOUR AND
REHABILITATION be pleased to state :

(a) whether all the Labour Trade Unions
have been consulted with regard to the
introduction of the Industrial Relations
Bill; and

(b) if so, what were their views 0

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF LABOUR AND REHA
BIL1TAT1UN (SHRI BALGOVIND
VERM A) : (a) and (b). The pioposed
comprehensive Industrial Relations law
will take into account the various views
expressed during protracted consultations,
with the tiade unions and others, that have
taken place since the Government received
the report of the National Commission on
Labour.

SHRI C. T. DHANDAPANI : Every
body knows the state of industrial rela-
tions and the number of man-days lost due
to lack of understanding between the
management and employ sees. What
spccificaction is being taken by the Govern*
meat and when are they going to implement
the suggestions ?

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K. KHADIL-
KAR): The question is about industrial rela-
tions law and we contemplate bringing for
ward a Bill on the basis of the recommenda-
tions of the National Labour Commission.
We placed it before the tripartite body, the
last national labour conference. The three
national trade unions met together as a
group and they have submitted their agree-
ment. On that basis we are bringing for-
ward that legislation. As For the second
part, we are in "consulation with the State
Labour Ministers and 1 think I should be
able to introduce legislation in the next
session.

SHRI B. V. NAIK : Is that Bill going
to be only bilateral relationship between
labour and capital or between labour and
management 0 Are you also going to consider
the points of view of the consumers whe-
ther individual or collective or group ?
Will the consumers’ point of view be tak?n
up as part of the industrial relationship ?

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: Every time
we take up this question of industrial
relationship, we keep in mind the probable
effect that it will have on the consumers.
Beyond that there is no special organisation
whom we could consult.

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SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : So far as
the proposed legislation is concerned, we
consult the three national trade unicn
centres along with the employees’ organisa-
tions and state Govts. About the first
part of the question, I would assure him
that we are consulting the State Labour
Ministers and all the recommendations, as
far as possible, made by the National
Labour Commission will be given effect to,
keeping in view the general consensus that
we have arrived at.

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SHRF R. K. KHADILKAR : That is
not one of the three national trade union
centres. Certainly I talk with their leaders
but not as an organisation.

SHRF A P SHARMA : It is gratifying
to note that the minister has consulted the
three national trade union centres, as he
calls them. May I know whether this
Industrial Relations Bill is also going to
affect the lakhs of Central Government
employees and may I know whom he is
going to consult about them.

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR Central
Government employees are goverred
sepaiately under the JCM. Th'ir machinery
for consultation is different. They are by
comention not governed by industrial law.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : It appears
from the answer tha he will be able to intro-
duce a Bill in the next session. In the
meantime, there is going to be a fast
deterioration in the industrial relations in
the country because of the rising prices and
the demand by the workers for wage rise
and bonus. In the intervening period, is
he going to convene any meeting of the
central trade union organisations and other

organisations connected with certain pro-
blems to <ee that r dustrial relations improve
because there is going 10 be labour trouble
in every p'acc ?

MR. SPEAKER Please do not
make a speech.

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : The three
national trade union centres have formed a
Council of Trade Unions. Through that,
they can take up certain matters and
approach the Government. So far as rising
prices and other causes for industrial
discontent are concerned, wc deal with them
separately. This is not a form for dealing
with individual problems.

SHRI S M. BANERJEE : What about
the demand for wage rise and bonus ?

SHRI A. P. SHARMA : Industrial
relations do not deal with wages and bonus.

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : That is
right. Industrial relations law does not
deal with wage structure and bonus

MR. SPFAKER ■ You do not recognise
the Chair He does not recognise the
Chair. What am I to do ? Kindly have a
look at me also;

SHRI R K. KHADILKAR : Yes, Sis.

SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY : It
is gratifying that the Labour Minister is
consulting the labour organisations befoie
enacting laws. Will he advise the other
ministries also to consult the other interests
at the tunc of enacting laws ?

MR. SPEAKER : Please be relevant to
tins question.

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Mazdoor Sangh has ideological affiliations
with Jan Sangh. They have got limited
strength.

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Oral Answers 6

MR. SPEAKER : Questions should not
be asked in a provocative manner. That
is not good. Do not provoke them. Then
it will be a headache which is transferred
to me. You quietly sit down and I have
to deal with them.

SHRI P. M. MEHTA : As amicable
relationship between the management and
labour does not exist in the public sector
undertakings of this country, do the govern-
ment propose to have strict application of
this legislation to the public sector under-
takings ?

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR : Industial
law will apply to public sector undertakings
as well.

Closure of Iron ore Mining Industries
in Bibar and Orissa

4 "

♦242, SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO :

SHRI RAM SHEKHAR PRASAD
SINGH :

Will the Minister of STEEL AND
MINES be pleased to state :

(a) whether iron ore mining industries
m the Barajamda and Banspam areas of
Bihar and Orissa are facing closuie;

(b) whether 10,000 workers have already
been retrenched from January to March,
1972; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) Govern-
ment is aware of the difficulties being faced
by some of the iron ore mines in Bihar-
Orissa resulting in the closure of some of
them.

<b) No, Sir.

(c) The matter has been under constant
review, in consulation with the Ministry of
Railways with a view to Improve the
supply of the required number of wagons^
for movement of the iron ore.

SHRI GIRIDHAR GOMANGO : May
I know whether it is a fact that the Gene-
ral Secretary of the Orissa Chamber of
Commerce has made a categorical state-
ment that the retrenchment has been much
bigger because of the failure of the rail-
ways for the last two years to move iron
ore from mine site for export via Paradip
and the shortfall was one million tonnes
during 1970-71 and 1971-72 ? If so, how
far this statement is true ? What steps
have been taken in this regard ?

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN : It is
true that the railways had have some difficul-
ty in moving the iron ore from the area for
export via Paradip. Even though the
target for export through Paradip was 18
lakhs tonnes, the actual performance was
13.45 lakhs tonnes, leaving a shortfall of
about 5 lakhs tonnes.

SHRI RAM SHEKHAR PRASAD
SINGH : In reply to part (a) of the ques-
tion the Minister has stated that some of
these mines have been closed. Which are
those mines and how many of them are in
Bihar ? What is the position of the work-
ers in those mines which are closed ? Will
they be absorbed elsewhere or will they
continue to be unemployed ?

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN : The
total number of workers affected so far
vanes from 1,800 to 2,000. Though there
has been no large-scale retrenchment, there
has been fairly large-scale lay off. The
mines affected are : Kasia-Barpada Iron
Ore Mines No. 1 and 2. Seramda-Bhadrassai
Manganese Mine No. 1 and 2, Guah Iron
Mine Jaruri Iron Ore Mine, Gorumahi-
«ani Iron Mine and Purnapam Iron Mine.

SHRI VASANT SATHE : In view of
the fact* that a large number of employees
as has been stated just now, are laid off,
may I know from the hon. Mmis'er whether
these persons have been paid lay off compen-
sation under the Industrial Disputes Act ?

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN : That
strictly does not come within the purview
of the Ministry of Steel and Mines. I
presume that the law on the subject will be
obe^d. {Interrupt ion) There are definite
rules and regulations on the subject of lay-
off and those are adhered to.

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Bombing of North Vietnam

*243. SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Will
the Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be
pleased to slate :

(a) whether the United States Air Force
planes have attacked the dyke system in
North Vietnam several times in recent weeks
re ulting in heavy loss of life to civilian
population;

(b) if so, whether India has made any
efforts to rouse world opinion against such
inhuman and barbarous attack on the
civilian population in that country; and

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) The
DRVN Government have informed the
Government of India of the serious damage
caused to their dyke svstem by the U.
S. bombings and loss of civilian lives.

(b) and (c). Government of India have
consistently opposed the U. S. bombings of
Vietnam and expressed serious concern
over the situation resulting therefrom. This
open reiteration of our stand on the subject
is in itself a powerful element in mobilising
world opinion.

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Since meek
and mild gesture of moral reprobation of
the impossibly atrocius conduct of the
American imperialists appear to be incons-
equential, nriy I know whether the Go\ em-
inent has proceeded n the matter of recog-
nit'on of the Provisional Revolutionary
Government of south Vietnam wh ch would
be a proper answer to the operation of bom-
bings in such barbaric fashion ?

THE MINISTER OF EXTERNAL
AFFAIRS (SHRI SWARAN SINGH) : It is
a suggestion for action.

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Efforts
made in the direction include not only
moral gestures of the kind Sardar Sahib
made but also certain diplomatic and other
steps in this direction. I do not know what
is happening in this regerd.

MR. SPEAKER : 1 am just keeping
silent over it because it is a very important
Question But, I think, he should remain
near about the Question.

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Mysubmis-
sion is that it comes within the ambit of
the Question.

MR. SPEAKER : You have gone to
the P. R. G. and all that.

SHRI H, N/ MUKERJEE : If you
could give me time enough, I could give you
arguments for it, that it comes within the
ambit of the Question.

In view of the special responsibility
devolving upon the Government of India to
concretise its sen'.e of protest against
American imperialism and the r bombing in
Vietnam, may I know why it is that the
External Aflairs Minister at Guyana appea-
red to be more apologetic about the walk-
out of Indonesia and Malysia rather than
be positne about the admission of P. R. G,
which would have shown that we do not
follow a namby pamby policy in foieign
affairs ?

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : I am sorry
I do not agree with the assessment of my
attitude in Guyana which the hon. Member
has formed. 1 think, it is based on incomp-
lete informarion about all that happened in
Guyana.

MR. SPEAKER : You could put a
direct question on that. I am sorry 1 allowed
him to side-track form the main Question
to P. R. G. and Guyana. This is about the
bombardment of the dyke system in North
Vietnam. I would request the Members to
confine themselves to the Question.

SHRI DINESH CHANDRA GOSWAMI:
May I know whether in the recent Confere-
nce which the hon. Minister of External
Affairs attended, this matter was formally or
informally discussed or, even if it was not
discussed, whether any feeler was thrown
from the Indian side un this matter ?

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : I must
inform the House that this matter of bom-
bing of dykes is now known to the entire
world. In the initial stages some feeble

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attempts were made by the U.S.A. Admini-
stration to deny, but f think, more and
more evidence that has no-v been
available, particularly from independent
sources, does point out conclusively to the
fact that dykes have been the subject matter
of bombing and it is also clear that even
bombing of points quite close to the dykes
has also caused serious damage to the
dykes. This matter has been a subject
matter of discussion, and this matter, along
with the general question of bombing of
North Vietnam territory, was vary much in
the minds of the delegations in Guyana.
The final resolution and declaration does
contain references to the situation in Viet-
nam and has also taken a positive and clear
stand of opposition to the bombing and of
finding solutions which are acceptable to the
people of Vietnam.

SHRI KRISHNA CHANDRA HALD-
ER : I want to know fiom the Minister
whether Government is prepared to move
and pass a resolution condemning the bom-
bing by U S. Air Foice of North Vietnam
dykes and civilian population to rouse
world opinion.

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : No resolu-
tion is required. We have expressed our
view-point very categorically more than
once.

SHRI G. VISWANATHAN : In view
of the fact that even leading American poli-
ticians have attacked their own Government
for bombing on the dyke system in North
Vietnam, I want to know from the Minister
what concrete steps have the Government
of India taken to rouse public opinion,
apart from issuing pious statements I also
want to know whether they had taken up
the question in the non-aligned Conference
to have a separate resolution condemning
the bombing of the dyke system in Noith
Vietnam.

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : With regard
to the first question, the opinion is suffici-
ently roused in our country and all over
the world, and I do not know what more he
wants us to do in this respect.

About the second question, as I have
said already, the question of Vietnam situa-

tion and the b>mbingby the Americans of
North Vietnam territory, including dykes,
was very much before the Guyana Confere-
nce, and if the hon. Member carefully
studies the relevant resolution and declara-
tion he will find the answer to what he is
asking me.

SHRI R. S. PANDEY : Heavy bom-
bings by Americans is going on in North
Vietnam, and Mr. kissinger is also going
here and there. The Minister of External
Affairs is competent enough to assess the
American attitude. May I know what exa-
ciJy is the motive of the Americans ? Do
they want to destroy North Vietnam or do
they want to finish the war or do they want
to negotiate and come to some sort of
solution ?

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : I wish I
could answer for the United States Govern-
ment. But I cannot.

SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH : There
has been the reported vis i 1 of Dr. Rissinger
to South Vietnam to persuade that Govern-
ment to come to some sort of an underst-
anding with North Vietnam. May I know
whether the role of India and also that of
the non-aligned nations had had any impact
on the United States to make them initiate
this move ? I also want to know whe-
ther it was known to our Government
before Dr, Kissinger made his visit to South
Vietnam.

MR. SPEAKER : Why do you not
put a separate question on this ?

SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH : This
is my question : whether the reported visit
of Dr. Kissinger . . .

MR. SPEAKER : So many people
come and so many people go. Please ask
a relevant question .* whether any Ameri-
cans tried to . . . (Interruptions) You are
again going to repeat it ?

SHRI P. VENKATASUBBAIAH : I
am not repeating it.

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : We knew
that yesterday Dr. Kissinger flew in a plane

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Oral Answers 12

and he has reached Saigon. What he is
going to do there, what are his plans — 1
do not know anything at all.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Before I
put a question, I really wanted to bring to
your notice that when we put questions,
1 have seen that an American diplomat is
violating the rules and regulations and goes
on taking notes there sitting in the gallery.
They come here merrily and go on dicta-
ting their own terms. 1 want that that should
be snatched away. The security men
should be sent immediately to snatch it
away.

MR. SPEAKER ; It happened once
earlier also. Don’t make reference to the
galleries.

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : A little
while earlier, the hon. Minister said
that in the beginning the American ad-
ministration was tr\ mg to deny the fact
of the bombing of the dykes, but later on,
was forced to admit the truth. I would
like to know from him . irrespective of
whether the Americans deny or confirm it,
have we on our ow'ii sought or received any
direct information from our envoy in Hanoi
who, being on the spot, is piobably in a
position to give us a better and fullei in-
formation and on the hasi«> of that in-
formation, can he tell us as to wl at is the
actual extent of the bombing i f the dykes
and the damage caused to the civilian
population and cultivation and so on, and
on that basis, why has the Government of
India not said anything ? Why a*e you to
wait for the Americans to deny or confirm
it ?

SHRI SWARAN SINGH : It is a
pertinent question. We did receive in-
formation from our own represen tato e in
Hanoi who, along with certain other dtplo-
rrates, was taken by the North Vietnam
authorities to see some of the dykes which
have been damaged by bombing. Of course,
he could not go to all the places and, there-
fore, it was not possible for him to assess
♦he entire damage to the dykes caused by
bombing. But he did see with his own
eyes and he sent a report to us that he
did see the damage caused to some dykes by
bombing.

Setting up of Mineral Exploration
Corporation

*244. SHRI S A. MURUGANANT-
HAM :

SHRI ARVIND NETAM:

Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES
be p’eased to state :

(a) whether there is a proposal to set
up a Mineral Exploration Corporation to
accelerate the mineral exploration progra-
mme in the countiy;

(b) if so, the main features thereof; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN): (a) and (b), Govern-
ment have taken a decision to set up a
Mineral Exploration Corporation in the
public sector with its headqurters at Nagpur.
To start with, this Corporation will function
with the personnel and equipment to be
transferred from the Geological Survey of
Indn. The Corporation will be charged with
exploring in detad and pro\mg the resources
in specific mineral prospects in the shortest
possible time in order to facilitate their
expeditious exploitation.

SHRI S. A. MURUGANANTHAM:
May I know' fiom the hon Minister whether
Rs. 100 crorcs is being spent for the import
of non-ferrous metals ?

MR. SPEAKER: The question is about
setting up a Mineral Exploration Corporation
to accelerate the mineral exploration progra-
mme. You a^k it in the shape of question
and don’t give infoimation yourself.

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN : The
import bill of metals would be about Rs.
200 crores roughly.

SHRI S.A. MURUGANANTHAM: May
I ki.ow from the hon Minister whether the

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Government propose to take urgent steps to
see that th s drain of foreign exchange is
stopped at the earliest ?

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN: The Gove-
rnment is doing its utmost to ensure that
our dependence on imports of metal
is reluced as quickly as possible. The
House would be glad to know that as
far as aluminium is concerned, we are on the
way to attaining self-sufficiency. Sizeable
reserves of copper have also been found.
We are developing that. Nickel also has
been struck in Orissa and in respect of lead
and zinc, sizeable deposits are there. We
are trying to develop that as fast as we can.

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SHRI PARIPOORNANAND PAINULP
Will the hon. Minister be pleased to state
whether as a pie-requisite to mining operati-
ons and mining explorations, detailed survey
of the mineral deposits would be conducted,
especially of th^ deposits in the Himalavan
region by the Photo Interpretation Institute 9

SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN : That
will be one of the main functions of the
Mineral Exploration Coiporation. The
hon. Member would be glad to know that
already the GSI have prospected various
minerals in the Himalayan region.

SHRI INDRAJ1T GUPTA : rose.

MR. SPEAKER : If you ask like this
I have not been able to finish these ques-
tions.

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : I tried to
catch your eye, but I failed.

MR. SPEAKER : I am going to divert
my eye for the question. Anyway, you
can ask, but Undly don’t make it a
practice.

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Are there
any complaints for all these long years
that the mineral exploration work carried
on so long by GSI was unsatisfactory or
inidequate 9 If not. what are the specific
reasons which have led the Government,
in the face of opposition by many scientists
and experts, to bifurcate mineral explo-
ration work from GSI and to set up
an absolutely independent corporation
now.

THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND
MINES (SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARA-
MANGALAM) : The decision of the Govern-
ment was talcen^n the basis of the report
that was submitted by a Sub-committee of
the Committee on Science and Technology
consitmg of leading scientists of this country.
It is called COST. The main reason
advanced by them, which was accepted by
the Government, was that geological mapp-
ing was proceeding rather slowly and that
it would be better to separate the work of
pure mapping on the one hand and the
work exploration on the other hand. In
many countries there is a division between
the woik of mapping and :he work of
exploration. It is really in pursuance of this
princip’e, after considerable discussion,
and after getting advice from leading
scientists, that this decision was taken.

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : It is not
clear whether the mapping will be done in
the new corporation or whether it will
continue to be done by the GSI.

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMANGA-
LAM : Survey work which really is the
work of mapprng is being done and will
continue to be done in the GSI. After
mapping reveals the existence of mineral
reserves, in any particular area, the work
will then be transferred to MEC (Mineral
Exploration Corporation) to decide on
whether those reserves could be commer-
cially exploitable or not. When a decision
is arrived at that they are exploitable,
that will go over to the exploiting Cor-
porations.

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Setting up of new Steel Plant In South

*245. SHRI B. V. NAIK :

SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA :

Will the Minister of STEEL AND
MINES be pleased to state :

(a) the progress so far made in the
setting up of the three new steel plants in
the South;

' (b) the time by which these three plants
are expected to go into pioduction; and

THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND
MINES (SHRI S. MOIiAN KUMARA
MANGALAM) : (a) to (c). A Statement
is laid on the Table of the House.

Statement

(a) to (c). The progiess made so far
in respact of the new steel plants is given
hereunder. The extent of land acquired/
being acquired is also indicated:

Salem Steel Plant :

2. Based on the Consultants’ techno -
economic feasibility report of the project,
an investment decision was taken in May
1972, for setting up an alloy and special
steel plant at Salem with the following
product-mix :

Sheets/strips Tonnes per annum

Stainless steel 70,000

Silicon steel 75,000

High Carbon Steel 30,000

Wash heats (Mild Steel) 20,000

195,000 tonnes

3, In the case of Salem Steel Project
about, 1,355 acres of land required for

the Plant has already been acquired. On the
basis of the advice given by the Consul-
tants, Hindustan Steelworks Construction
Ltd , a Government of India undertaking
have commended site levelling work. With
the construction activities having started, a
separate company for the management of
the Salem Project is being incorporated
shortly.

4. The Project is expected to be
commisstioned in 1977-78.

Vijayanagar and Visakhapatnam Steel Plants

5. The Techno-Economic feasibility
Reports were received in early 1972. The
eost estimate v?ned from Rs.747 crores to
Rs. 819 crores for different alternatives. Besi-
des, it emerges that the plant would make
a considerable loss. A Study Group was,
theiefore, constituted to examine the
Feasibility Reports with a view to reduce
capital and operating costs. The Group
has finalised its work and is expected to
submit its Rcpoi t shortly.

6. By 31. 3. 1972 about 3,216 acres
of land had been acquired for the Vijaya-
nagar Plant. Preliminary estimates for
site levelling are being prepared For the
Visakhapatnam Plant land acquisition
proceedings are in the progress. Initially
about 5,500 acres of land is proposed to
be acquired.

7. With a view to reduce the lead
time required for the manufacture of
equipment as well as to maximise the
indigenous content, a panel of Experts
for Standardization of Steel Plant Equip-
ment was constituted m January, 1972.
The recommendations made by the Panel
in their Report submitted in May, 1972 have
been largely accepted. Steps have, been
initiated to place orders for some of the
major equipment on the Heavy Engineering
Corporation and other public sector engi-
neering units shortly. A Study Group to
assess the manpower requirements during
the construction ns well as the operation
phase has been constituted.

8. Arrangements have been made for
testing the various raw materials at the
National Metallurgical Laboratory, Jam-

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st^edpur, Central Fuel Research Institute,
Bhanbad and abroad.

9. Topographical surveys in respect
to all the sites have been completed. Rail-
ways have also completed thei; prelimi-
nary surveys for providing exchange yards
and sidings. The schemes prepared by the
respective State Governments for meeting
the requirement of water, during the project
costruction stage, as well as during the
operation stage are under consideration.
Initial load bearing tests on soil have been
completed.

10. According to a schedule of cons-
truction indicated by the Consultants in
the Feasibility Reports, the Plants would
take about 8 years from now to be com-
pleted. Measures, including those men-
tioned above, are in hand to reduee this
time.

SHRI B V. NAIK : From the state-
ment I find that the Salem steel plant is
expected to go into production in 1977-78,
while for the other two plants at Vijaynagar
and Visakhapatnam, no specific date of
commissioning has been given, even though
broadly it has been mentioned that it would
take about eight years. I hope that the
distinction between the two is not deli-
berate and that all of them will be commi-
ssioned.

It has also been stated that the steel
plant at Vijaynagar or anywhere else will
be making substantial amount of loss. In
view of the fact that many of our public
sector undertakings particularly in steel
are working and functioning below their
capacity, about 33 or 35 per cent in the
case of Durgapur, will the Steel Ministry
consider it fit to let the price of steel in
the open market to float so that they will
become self-sufficient ?

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMANGA-
LAM : Tt> answer first of all the point
regarding the Salem steel plant coming into
production earlier, I hope the hon, Member
will appreciate that the steel plant at
Salem is an alloy steel plant which is to
produce about 195,000 tonnes of finished
steel,, that is, alloy steel, whereas Vijay-
nagar and Visakhapatnam plants are major
integrated Steel plants. So, naturally the

time for bringing them into commission will
be different. I do not think that there is any
discrimination involved except the dis-
crimination between alloy steel on the one
hand and ordinary steel on the other, which
unfortunately exists in life.

So far as the question of loss is con-
cerned, the hon. Member has put forward
a point which has some relevance, and I
can assure him that we are examining the
entire pricing system of steel products to
try to arrive at a proper conclusion.

SHRI B. V. NAIK : May we know
whether there is any possibility of further
‘preponing* the date of commissioning of
the Vijaynagar and Visakhapatnam plants ?

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMANGA-
LAM : I arj not quite sure about the
meaning of that English word ‘preponing*.
but I presume that it means that he wants
to bring it forward. So far as ‘preponing’
is concerned, every effort is always being
made to 'prepone’.

MR. SPEAKER : ‘Poning’ is the

common thing between the two.

SHRI S. A. SHAMIM : I hope that
this is not unparliamentry.

I hope you will find that out.

MR. SPEAKER : It is just the ‘pon-
ing’ wnich is common on both sides.

SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA : May
I know whether these steel plants will meet
their raw material requirements locally and
what their man-power requirements would
be during the construction as well as the
operatiop phases ?

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMANGA-
LAM : Thare are three plants involved
and the extent to which these three diffe-
rent plants will obtain their raw material
locally will vary. ^ So far as the Salem
steel plant is concerned, I think hon.
Members are aware that our aim is to
utilise the Kanjimalai iron ore. Since the
steel plant is not going to be an ordinary
integrated plant, the question of coke
does not arise as also coking coal being
transported there.

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So far as the Vijaynaggr plants is con-
cerned, iron ore will be locally available,
but coking coal will have to be brought
from Bihar. So far as the Visakhapatanam
plant is conce.ned, iron ore would
very likely be taken from Bailadilla,
but the coking coal will again be taken
from Bihar. This is the position so far as
the raw materials are concerned.

I did not follow exactly the latter
part of the hon. Member’s question.

SHRI JAGANNATH MISHRA : What
will be the man-power requirements during
their construction as well as operation
phases ?

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARAMANGA-
LAM : We have not arrived at any

final conclusion regarding man-power re-
quirements A study group in examining
that in order to do so.

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This is about transport of ore to
Visakhapatnam and shipment to Japan. At
present, what is the procedure for bringing
iron ore from Bailldilla to Visakhapatnam ?
Is it by our own rail or by some other means?

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARA MANGA
LAM : At the present moment, we are
still examining what will be the exact method
of transport. Ordinarily we would expect that
the entire ore would be transported by rail.
But during the last decade, as hon. mem-
bers must be aware, there has developed
the process of transporting iron ore by
slurry. We are examining all the three
methods, namely, pelletising and transport-
ing the pellets or sending them by slurry
or sending them by rail. We have not
come to a final decision.

SHRI B. S. MURTHY : What are the
difficulties m acquiring land in Visakha-
patn:.m ? Also what are the other teething
troubles in the case of the Visakhapatnam
factory ?

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARA-

MANGALAM : I do not think Government
have ever stated that we have had any
difficulties regarding acquiring land in
Visakhapatnam. The other difficulties are
the normal ones that one faces in relation
to the establishment of any public sector
undertaking of a major character — nothing
special.

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SHRI PILOO MODY : It is a very good
question.

MR. SPEAKER : On his recommenda-
tion, I am allowing it for answer.

SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARA-
MANGALAM : The decision to put up a
steel plant in Visakhapatnam was taken
some years ago. I think all considerations
were taken into account in arriving at that
decision.

Advance payment for goods not
supplied

*248. PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA-
SHAR : Will the Minister of SUPPLY be
pleased to state :

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Oral Answers 22

(a) whether a firm fraudulently obtained
advance payments amounting to Rs. 2 84
lakhs for supplies which were not effected
by it, as observed by the public Accounts
Committee in its 105th Report (Fourth Lok
Sabha);

(b) if so, whether an investigation into
the matter has been completed; and

(c) whether in view of this observation,
Government is contemplating to consider
the question of building safeguards into the
general conditions governing contracts of
the D. G. S. & D. ?

THE MINISTER OF SUPPLY (SHRI
D. R. CHAV AN) : (a) Yes, Sir.

(b) Yes, Sir.

(c) In the light of the observations
made by the Public Accounts Committee,
certain remedial measures have been taken
by the Government from time to time to
safeguard Government’s interests. A state-
ment listing out these measures is laid on
the Table of the'House.

St ite merit

1. Sub* clause 9 of Clause 14 of the
condition of contract (DOS & D-68-
Revised) has been amended specifying that
the railway receipt/consignec’s note or bill
of lading if any, should be drawn in the
name of the cansignee or the interim consi-
gnee, as the case may be, and should be
sent to him.

2. Instructions have been issued to the
Purchase Officers that in future Acceptance
cf Tenders, the consignees should be reques-
ted to send an intimation to the Purchase
Organisation immediately on receipt of
stores giving particulars of the Acceptance
of Tender No. and date, date of despatch
of stores by the contractor with railway
receipt number and da«e and date of actual
receipt by the consignee along with the
quantity received.

3. In case of progress payments, in
addition to test checks of railway receipts
and transport documents, the progress

held staff will also test check the actual
receipt of stores by the consignee. This will
be done by checking consignee's receipts,
sending letter to consigneee to certify the
receipt and in important cases even by
visits to the consignee’s premises.

4. Consignees have been asked to
promptly report to the Pay & Accounts
Officer concerned, with a copy to the Direc-
torate General of Supplies & Disposals, any
ca-es of shortages/discrepancies found in
the stores received by them. In this conne-
ciion, administrative instructions have been
issued for preparation of bills by the supply-
ing fims in quadruplicate to enable the Pay
& Accounts Officer to uso the triplicate
copy of the bill as a debit intimation memo
to the consignee concerned. This will help
the consignee to report to the concerned
authoi ities immediately m case stores have
not been received for which payments have
been drawn by the firm.

5. Instructions have been issued that
all serious complaints received from consi-
gnee’s and other malpractices, frauds etc.
reported by them should immediately be
brought to the notice of the senior officers
and also periodically reviewed by them so
as to ensure prompt and pioper action.

6. It has been decided that the Pay &
Accounts Officer would, immediately after
making payment of advance bills, send a
registered letter to the consignee asking
him to confirm receipt in full or the extent
of *hort supply of stores as ind cated in
the railway receipt, within 45 days of
receipt of the letter.

7. It has been decided that the contrac-
tor should incorporate a certificate on the
bill foim itself to the effect that the railway
receipt No. and dare quoted in the bill ' is
genuine and correct.

PROF. NARAIN CHAND PARA-
SHAR : Arising out of answer to (b>, may
1 know the contents of the report of
investigation ?

SHRI D, R. CHAVAN : When the fraud
was detected, Director, Supply, Bombay,
reported it to the CBI, and SPE, Bombay

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Oral Answers 24

Branch. Investigation has $>pen completed.
There are four cases which lire pending in
the Additional Chief Presidency Magis-
trate’s Court. Ore case has been decided.
A partner of the firm committed the fraud.
He has been convicted and sentenced to pay
a fine and also undergo imprisonment.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE : Thi is the
first time that he is replying to a question as
the Minister of Supply ?

MR. SPEAKER : Then he must be
congratulated.

PROF. NARAIN CHAND :
PARASHAR : What is the name of the
firm ?

SHRI D R CHAV AN : The name of the
firm is Khushalbhai patfl & Sons.,
and the partner of the firm, I. R. Patel,
has been convicted. ( Interruption )

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00*1 001 ffsnjz 501 ?

SHRI D. R. CHAV AN : The name of
the firm has been given.

Mr. SPEAKER : He has mentioned it.

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SHRI D.R. CHAV AN : The question is,
the fraud has been committed by the firm.
Fraud has not been committed by the office;
it has not come to the notice of the Govern-
ment, what is alleged by the hon. Membre

is absolutely incorrect.

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SHRI G. VISWANATHAN : This is a
case where a firm has received fraudulent
payment without supplying any material.
Without the official connivance, it is
impossible to got payment without supply-
ing the material. I want to know from the
Minister, when he says that it is only a
fraudulence on the pait of the firm, what
action has been taken against the officials
who have paid the amount. ( Interrupt on )

MR. SPEAKER : Order, order.

SHRI D R. CHAVAN : All the details
concerning this case have been given in the
105th report of the Public Accounts commi-
ttee, 1969. ( Interruption )

MR. SPEAKER : He has put a cate-
gorical question; whether any action has
been taken against those officers who have
made the payment.

SHRI D. R. CHAVAN : No action has
been taken against the officials. ( Interruption )

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MR. SPEAKER : Order, order, He has
already categorically stated that no action
has been taken. Now, Shri H. M. Patel.
( Interruption )

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Oral Answers 26

Shouting and screaming is not substitute
for the strength and logic of the question.
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SHR1 H. M. PATEL : Will the Minis-
ter be pleased to indicate if the
department has carried out any enquiry into
this, and whether he has found that there
was no scope or there was scope for taking
steps against the officers concerned ?

SHRI D. R. CHAV AN : The investi-
gation has been done. There was no scope
for the officers to commit any fraud; no
connivance. 1 can explain it: how the
fraud was committed and all that. I can
explain what was the modus operandi that
was employed. The matter ^vas investigated
and the officers here not found to be
involved, ( Interruption )

MR SPEAKER : 1 th nk he is very
honestly tellirg you. He is not hiding or
concealing anything . ( Interruptions ).

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA :
What is the modality of payment ? How is
the officer not involved ?

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA : Who made
the payment ? Who sanctioned it ?

MR. SPEAKER : He is asking about the
modality of payment.

SHRI D. R. CHAVAN : This is adva-
nce payment made according to the practice
prevalent in the DGSD on the basis of the
railway receipt. The modus operandi in this
case was as follows. The firm were not the
manufacturers themselves but they were the
agents of certain textile mills. They entered
into agreement for supplying various stocks.
In this case the mill manufactured the cloth
and despatched the cloth after inspection
to the destination and passed on the railway
receipt to the bankers with instiuc-
tions that if the firm makes payment to the
bank the receipt should be given. The firm
did not' make payment to the bank but
quoted fictitious receipt to the Pay and
Accounts and got the money, advance
payment which was 90 per cent of the total
contract. . . ( Interruptions )

MR. SPEAKER I have called the
next question.

Implementation of ratio of
Clerks in E.P.F.O.

*250. SHRI R. P. YADAV : Will the
Minister of LABOUR AND REHABILI-
TATION be pleased to state :

(a) whether ratio of U.D.Cs and L.
D.Cs. has been fixed by the Government
from 1:2 to 2:1 Employees Provident Fund
Organ aition and a Gazette Notification in
this regard has also been published; if so
the specific features thereof and the policy
of the Government; and

(b) the steps being taken to expedite
the implementation of the same ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF LABOUR AND REHA-
BILITATION (SHRI BALGOVIND
VERMA) : (a) The Government have
accepted a recommendation of the Central
Board of Trustees based on the report of a
Committee of Trustees that the ratio of U.
D.Cs and L D.Cs may be liberali-
sed from 1:2 to 2 : 1 subject to the
condition that there would be no
overall increase in the total number
of posts as a result of the revision of the
ratio and the revised ratio should be given
effect to from the date of regular filling up
of the posts. No gazette notification has
been issued prescribing the ratio of the
posts of U.D.Cs and L.D.Cs.

(bi The Provident Fund authorities have
reported that the Scheme has already
been implemented.

SHRI R. P. YADAV: May I know whe-
ther a decision has been taken in the matter
to reverse the ratio and if so why the same
is not being implemented ? What is the
number of LDCs and UDCs ? After this
ratio is reversed, how many LDCs were
promoted as UDCs ?

SHRI BALGOVIND VERMA: I do not
follow the point that the ratio had been
reversed. It has already been stated that the
ratio had been liberalised from 1 : 2 to 2 : I.
Accordingly some posts have been filled;
189 posts have been filled and 189 LDCs

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AUGUST 17, 1972

Oral Answers 28

were promoted as UDCs, It has been deci-
ded to promote 1,000 LDCt as UDCs in the
long run.

SHRI R. P. YADAV: I want to know
whether the Central Provident Fund Comm-
issioner is not implementing the scheme
deliberately due to his prejudices and if so
what action is being contemplated against
him ? Is the Minister aware that the emplo-
yees are on strike ?

SHRI BALGOVIND VERM A r The con-
tention of the hon. member is not correct
that the Piovident Fund Cormissioner is
not filling up the posts as per the decision.
The fact is, the posts are filled fifty-fifty;
i e 50 per cent will be by promotion based
on seniority and 50 per cent by those who
come out successful in the examination. On
a tacit understanding, the two methods of
filling up the posts will goon side by side.
(Interruptions).

SHRI R P. YADAV: Has it come to
the notice of Government that they are on
strike ?

SHRI BALGOVIND VERMA: It has
not come to our not'ce.

SHRI S. M. BANERJEE: This was one
of the demands of the employees of this
organisation which has been conceded in
part, not fully. Ha\e tfey submitted a char-
ter of demands and there is a countrywide
agitation going on this ? Have they made a
request to the minister to intervene m the
matter ? If so, what is his reaction ?

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHAD1-
LKAR) : We have received charters of
demands from various quarters and one of
them is from thc^e employees We have
partially met their demands and partially it
is under the consideration of the Board of
Trustees. ( Interruptions ).

Compensation tj Victims of Dhun
Mine disaster in Bihar in 1965

•251. SHRI S. M. BANERJEE* Will
the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABI-
LITATION be pleased to state:

(a) whether family members of 268 work-
ers who died in Dhun Mine Disaster, Bihar

in 1965 have not yet been paid compensa-
tion; and

(b) if so, the reasons why no action was
taken to get compensation for the family
members either by the State Government
or by the Union Labour Ministry ?

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHADI-
LKAR): (a) Yes.

(b) The enforcement of the Workmen’s
Compensation Act, 1923, rests with the State
Government. No action was possible on the
part of the State Government as the comp-
ensation proceedings pending before the
Labour Court. Patna had been stayed by
the Patna High Court till the disposal of the
civil revision cases preferred before it by
the management These cases have since
been disposed of by the High Court and the
compensation proceedings have been resumed
in the Labour Court at Patna. The date for
the next hearing is 28th August, 1972.

SHRI S M. BANERJEE* In 1965 in
Bihar, 268 workers died in the Dhun Mines
owned by the Raja of Ramgarh. Wc aie
putting this question in 1972 and we arc
told that no compensation has been pa.d
to their families May I know whether the
Government of India are in contact with the
State Government and whether they wi'I
see that at least the members of their fami-
lies, if they aie alive, should be paid this
compensation ?

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: I must
admit that it is a sad commentary on the
functioning of the judiciary when offences
of this nature are brought to the courts,
the Labour Court, ihe Patna High court
and all these courts, I do not know under
what influence, because so many people
died in 1965 and yet no compensation has
been paid. ( Interruptions ). 1 am stating the
facts.. (Interruptions).

SHRI DINESH SINGH : How can you
cast aspersion on the High Court 7 It is very
unfair.

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: It has taken
more than seven yeaTs and still they have
not been paid compensation. You should
be ashamed of such courts.

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Oral Answers 30

SIJRI PILOO MODY: Government
could have paid compensation suo motu t
Why did they not do it ?

MR SPEAKER: It would be much bett-
er if Shri Khadilkar leaves aside all comm-
ents and is concise in his answers. He can
easily say that it is pending for a long time.

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: Under the
Workmen's Compensation Act, the implem-
entation rests with the States. Certain adva-
nces were made from the Prime Minister’s
Relief Fund and other funds. They were
very meagre because it was such a big
disaster.

MR. SPEAKER 1 May I request him to
give brief concise replies instead o r long
replies because longer replies lead to comp-
lication ?

SHRI A. K. SEN : It could not have
gone to the court unless the Government
resisted the claim for compensation.

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR; Now a
stage has been reached where perhaps the
case will be finaliscJ soon.

MR. SPEAKER. I am sorry, the question
hour is now ovei .

SHRI INDRAJIT GUPTA: Sir, I thou-
ght you would make an observation about
it. It is a scandalous thing. Eleven years
have passed.

MR SPEAKER: The Minister has alre-
ady made it.

SHRI A. P. SHARMA: The Minister
has said that the case has reached a stage
where it would be finalised. What is the
stage now ?

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : This is
another glaring instance which shows the
class character of the government.

SHRI S.M. BANERJEE : In v ew of the
delay in arriving at a decision by the High
Court and in view also of the fact that no
compensation has been paid so far, would
the government make tome cx gratia
payment ?

SHRI R. K. KHADILKAR: This is a
suggestion.

Short Notice Question

Death of Shri Charu Mazumdar in
Police Custody in West Bengal

S. N. Q. 2. SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE :
Will the Minister of HOME AFFAIRS be
pleaed to state :

(a) whether Government’s attention
has been drawn to the countr -wide appre-
hension over the recent death in police
custody in West Bengal of Shri Charu Mazu-
mdar, chairman of the Communist Party
of India (Marxist-Lemnist);

(b) whether medical and other relevant
reports regarding the death of this all-India
political personality have been aiequately
examined: and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF HOME AFFAIRS (SHRI
K. C. PANT) : (a) and (c). According to
the information furnished by the State
Government so far. Shri Chaiu Mazumdar
was arrested by the Calcutta police in the
early hours of 16th July, at Calcutta. On
being taken to the Calcutta police head-
quarters he was examined, among others,
by an eminent heart specialist. An E.C G.
was arranged and all possible medical care
was made availab’e On being remanded
to police custody, he continued to be under
constant medical attention and treatment
as advised by the heart specialist. Family
members of Shri Mazumdar were also allo-
wed to see him when he was in police
custody. Shri Mazumdar’s condition, how-
ever, suddenly deteriorated towards the
afternoon of 27th July. He was again
examined by the heart specialist and on
his advice was admitted at 19.30 hours on
27th July, to the S. S. K. M. Hospital.
Despite all me iical assistance. Shri Mazu-
mdar expired at about 4.50 hours on 28th
July. A four-man panel of physicians*
including the heart specialist under whose

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Oral Answers 32

treatment Shri Mazumdaf had remained
has stated that the death of Shri Mazumdar
was due to eschaemic heart disease with
congestive cardiac failure. The death certi-
ficate of Shri Mazumdar was duly signed
by the four physicians in the panel. Since
the death occured in police custody, post -
mortem examination of the dead body was
made. The viscera has been sent to the
Forensic Science Laboratory for chemical
examination. The result is awaited.
A magisterial inquest is also in progress.

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : The
question relates to the death of a leader of
a political party and all that we get m
answer is that a statement is laid on the
Table. The members would like to hear
the answer. He is the leader of a respecta-
ble party.

MR. SPEAKER : He may ask his
supplementary.

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Sir, you
should please bear with me for a moment.
Before I ask my supplementary, 1 want to
make a submission. This is a question
about the death of the leader of a political
party of this country and it should be
answered in a fashion that the hon. Members
would know. Now, hon. Members do not
get an opportunity of reading the statement.

MR SPEAKER : In the case of longer
replies they are always laid on the Table.

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Some-
times they are read out also.

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Sir, I
am a bit intrigued by your concern for time
being wasted or not wasted.

In view of the fact that the average
citizen would be intrigued by the phenome-
non that the heart of Shn Charu Mazumdar
which could bear the rigours and tensions
of underground life and hounding by the
police of the entire country for more than
three years was unable to stand the care and
comforts provided by the Government for
even a fortnight and also, in view of the
fact that his widow has made a statement
to the effect that adequate medical treatment
had not been given to him, that police
interrogations had continued for very long

stretches of time to the detriment of his
heart condition and similar accusations
have been made in journals published in
this, country, may I know if it is right for
the Government to leave this matter to a
Magisterial inquest, that is to say, an
executive non-entity investigating the pro-
ceedings and why does not Government
agree to some kind of a real investigation
by a proper person or a High Court Judge
or something of that sort so that all the
misapprehensions in the minds of the people
could be allayed ?

SHRI K. C. PANT : May I, for the
benefit of those Members, wh> may not
have read the Statement give a few sentences
from the statement ? This is the infor-
mation given to us by the West Bengal
Government :

“On being taken to the Calcutta
police headquarters, he was examined
among others by an eminent heait spe-
cialist. An ECG was arranged and ail
possible medical care was made availa-
ble. On being remanded to police
custody, he continued to be under
constant medical attention and treatment
as advised by the heart specialist. Family
members of Shri Mazumdar were also
allowed to see him when he was m
police custody Shri Mazumdar's condi-
tion, however, suddenly .deteriorated
towards the afternoon of 27th July....’*

I might say that when he was captured,
along vith him oxygen cylinders were also
found and, I understand, he was a chronic
patient of cardiac asthema. From the
photographs, you must have seen that he
was considerably emaciated.

Further, I read from the statement :

“He was again examined by the
heart specialist and on his advice was
admitted at 19.30 hours on 27th July to
the S.S.K.M. Hospital....”

— there he expired —

“A four-man panel of physicians,
including the heart specialist under
whose treatment Shri Mazunfidar had
remained, has stated that the death of
Shri Mazumdar was due to eschaemic

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1 heart disease with congestive cardiac
' failure. The death certificate of Shri
Mazumdar vas duly signed by the four
physicians in the panel. Since the death
occurred in police custody, post-mortem
exam- nation of the dead body was
made...”

As Shri Mukerjee said, a magisterial
inquiry is also in progress.

So, I hope, my hon. friend will con-
cede that adequate medical arrangements
were made and that all along a heart Spe-
cialist was also looking after him and his
advice was being followed.

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : What-
ever one might think of the Minister’s
statement, since very large number of deaths
inside jail, whether by point blank shooting
down or otherwise, in recent years, have
taken place, can the Government assure
that in every such case of death, including
that of Shri Charu Mazumdar, post-mortem
reports properly made would be made avail-
able and that a full medical report regarding
Shri Charu Mazumdar’s death in particular
would be made public in view of the magis-
tral inquest at least which has been
announced ?

SHRI K. C. PANT ; The death report,
a* I have already said, has been signed by
four physicians. The inquest is on. The
findings of the inquest will be public. They
will be going into the report of the forensic
laboratory and the Post-mortem examina-
tion etc. I do not know procedurally
what exactly is made public by the magi-
strate or what is not made public. But
all the procedures laid down will be follo-
wed. I for one do not find any rtason at
all in this to occasion any doubt about the
probity of any of the persons involved, Mr.
Mukerjee said, some one of probity should
look into it. 1 have no reason to question
the probity of either the physician or the
magistrate in this case.

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : The hon.
Minister has just now said that from the
time of arrest, all along a heart specialist
had been attending on late Charu Mazum-
dar. If I remember aright, the Commission-
er of Police, Calcutta, had said very
categorically that Mr. Charu Mazumdar

was in good health at that moment. How
does it sound that a heart speciatist was
attending on a man who had been maintai-
ning good health as certified by the Head of
the Calcutta Police, namely, the Commissi*
oner of police ? uill the hon. Minister
kindly cUrify this point ?

SHRI K. C. PANT : I do not know
about the statement of the Commissioner
of Police. But I do know that the inform-
ation given to us by the State Government
is that Shri Charu Mazumdar was arrested
by the Calcutta police in the early hours of
16th July at Calcutta. On being taken to
the Calcutta Police headquarters, he was
examined among others by an eminent
heart specialist. This is the information with
me on which I have made the statement
1 have myself stud on the basis of the in-
formation with me that he was a chronic,
cardiac-asthma ^patient. His heart might
have been all right when he was arrested,
obviously was good enough at that stage,
but then there was a sudden deterioration
on a certain date. All those fact I have
given; I can not give any moie.

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : The
Minister is mentioning about the facts at
his disposal. We are interested in know-
ing the correct facts and not cooked-up
facts that are often brought before the
House. Will he please collect fuller details
on this and hv them on the Table of the
House, if there is no skeleton in the cup-
board ?

SHRI TRIDIB CHAUDHURI : The
M nister has said that Mr. Charu Mazumdar
was a cardiac-asthma parent. When he
was anested, pathadrme and oxygen cylind-
ers were found with him. He was, imme-
diately after the arrest, examined by a
heart specialist. It is also on record that
he was subjected to constant interrogation
by one Minister in charge of Calcutta Police
and also subsequently . . .

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU Minister
of State.

SHRI TRIDIB CHAUDHURI : Mini-
ster of State is also a Ministir. ( Interrup-
tion ) i It is not a laughing matter. It is a
very serious matter and this thing is being
widely commented by the Press, by the

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public and not by the people who were all
admirers of Mr. Charu Mazumdar. But
there is something called justice, Mr.
Charu Mazumdar was not found to be
convicted of any crime as y$t. Anyway it
is on record that he was subjected to in-
terrogation, and it has been alleged that he
was subjected to 17. hours of continuous
interrogation. Before this interrogation
took p’nce this grilling third degree method
on a cardiac-asthma patient was the advice
of a caidiac specialist and other doctors
who attended on him obtained before Mr.
Charu Mazumdar was subjected to this soit
of inhuman interrogation ?

SHRI K. C. PANT : I shall again repeat
because my hon. friend put some words in
my mouth. According to him, I said,
‘Atonce a heart specialist examined . .

I did not say ‘once’. I can only say what
has been given here : ‘On being taken to
the Calcutta Police Head-quarters he was
examined among others by an eminent
heart specialist.' . . .

SHRI PILOO MODY : ‘On being
taken . .

SHRI K. C. PANT : But the inform-
ation that I heard said that right from
the time he was arrested, he was given
proper medical attention. So, I cannot
exactly pinpoint when the heart specialist
examined him.

Secondly, the question of twelve hours
continuous interrogation has been raised by
my friend. It has been stated here by the
West Bengal Government that because of
his poor health, Shn Charu Mazumdar’s
interrogation was carried out only in
brief spells. So. this does not bear out
what he says.

SHRI PILOO MODY Three spells of
twelve hours.

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA :
There are three veiy material points which
arise in this context and need clarification
from the hon. Minister.

Now, what are exactly the reasons for
a Minister of State interviewing Charu
Mazumdar in the Police custody ? Is it a
practice for a Minister to interview a person
in the Police custody ?

Secondly, what were the findings of
this eminent heart specialist after his exami-
nation ?

Thirdly, a point arises out of what the
hon. Minister has said namely that an
inquest is under way. What are the precise
points for the inquest ?

SHRI K. C. PANT : As to why the
Minister of State interviewed. Mr. Charu
MaZumdar, I cannot answer...

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA
Why ? Is it the practice ?

SHRI K C. PANT : Obviously I
cannot It is for the State Government. He
is not our Minister. Shri Manoharan will
be veiy angry if I choose to answer for one
of the Tamil Nadu Ministers here ( Interrup-
tions )

SHRI K. MANOHARAN : Your
Central Ministers can go to Tamil Nadu
and meddle with the whole matter ?

SHRI K. C. PANT : I am happy about
it.

SHRI TR1DIB CHAUDHURI : On a
point of order. It has become the practice
of thf Treasury Benches whenever a question
pertaining to States or law and order comes
up, to take shelter behind the DMK.. That
is very unfair. You have admitted the
question and this question is being answe-
red. He is answering the quession. So, why
should he give this sort of answers ?

SHRI K. C. PANT : Why not ? I do
not understand the objection ..(Interruptions)

SHRI PILOO MODY : If the minister
sits down, 1 can explain the objection to
him.

SHRI ft. C PANT : I do not see what
fairness or unfairness there is in this. Wc
do hear protests here if one of our Minis-
ters chooses to answer for the State Govern-
ment. There is the emphasis on State
autonomy So, if I raise this question, how
is it unfair ? .. ( Interruptions )

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : On a
point of order, Sir. He has accepted this

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question. Now he wants to take shelter
under DMK. Wonderful, If it is a State
matter, how was this question allowed to be
admitted ? I want to ask this question of
you. Mr. Speaker. If it is a matter which
involve: the State Government, how is it
that this question was admitted here ? I
want to know about that.

SHRI C. T. DHANDAPANI : The
DMK Government directed an inquiry
whenever such a thing happened in Tamil
Nadu. Will your Government follow the
same ?

SHRI JYOTIRMOY BOSU : Kindly
give your observations on what I said.

MR. SPEAKER : If you think it is a
wrong thing, then it will not be done in
future.

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : Are you
taking a cue from an odd Member ?

MR. SPEAKER ■ No please.

SHRI H. N. MUKERJEE : This kind
of observation that falls from your lips
that is recorded for posterity.

MR. SPEAKER : We have accepted it.

SHRI K. MANOHARAN : Sir, I do
not want to put any question to Mr. Pant
because I want to be magnanimous.

SHRI K. C. PANT : I thank Shri
Manoharan for his magnanimity. So far as
the findings of the heart specialist arc
concerned, I do not have the exact findings
here; certainly we can find out what the heart
specialist had said But I know that he was
called on the 27th. He advised that Shri
Majumdar should be hospitalised and strai-
ghtway he came towards the evening and
Shri Majumdar was hospitalised in the
evening. This fact 1 do have with me. As
for the inquest the Magistrate did see the
dead body in the morning and he also exa-
mined some witnesses. He still wanted
to examine some more witnesses and only
after that examination we will be in a posi-
tion to know fully.

SHRI SHYAMNANDAN MISHRA :
What are the precise points for inquest ?

SHRI K. C. PANT : 1 don’t know the
precise points, but he was going into the

circumstances and facts surrounding the
death to give his findings.

SHRI G. VISWANATHAN : The death
occurred on the 27th, July. wG presume
that on the sarqe day the viscera was sent
for chemical examination we do not have
the examination results. This is the callous
way in wh ch he was treated even after his
death. In view of the mounting doubts
expressed regarding the medical treatment
meted out to him and regarding his death,

I want to know whether Government is in a
position to accept a judicial inquiry into
the whole matter.

SHRI K. C. PANT : He died on the
28th at 4-50 P M and not on 27th. I wish
to correct him there. So far as the report
of the Forensic Science Laboratory is conce-
rned, I myself was sui prised that the report
had not come \ asked my office to ring up
West Bengal Government and they got in
touch with the West. Bengal Govt and they
told them that there were certain tests which
take long time. Only this morning we
had got in touch with them. I agree with my
friend; it looks as if they have taken a long
time. Snfar as the next question is concerned,
about the judicial inquiry, my answer is, no.

SHRI A. K. M. ISHAQUE : Charu
Ma7Aimdar very successfully eluded arrest
for three years and it was known that he
was to tour the country for organisational
work of his party. It was also
known and it was common news that m
Calcutta this Naxalite movement was losing
its ferocity and its depth. How is it that
just before death Charu Mazumdar arrived
there in Calcutta and got himself arrested 9
Was it done under advice from any foreign
country, or was it a planned way of being
arrested, just before diath, for political
purpose 7

SHRI S. A SHAMIM ■ There must be
a judicial inquiry The State Government
is a parly to the i<sue. You are basing your
opinion on the statements and facts given
by the State Government. The facts or the
statements are those that have been supp-
lied by the accused, which is, the State
Government in this case. Will the Minister
agree to an lrquiry, either by Members of
Parliament or a Judicial Inquiry or even a
Central Agency Inquiry, ft r that matter, of

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the CBI, or any other agency* because the
State Government is the accused party ?

SHRI ft. C. PANT . I am surprised at
the statement mide by the hon. Member
tha t the State Government is the accused
party. This is completely wrong.

SHRI S. A. SHAMIM : It is a cons-
piracy hatched by the State Government.
The West Bengal Government has got him
killed. The Minister who visited him ...

SHRI PILOO MODY : They played
Nagarwala on him. Who else murdered
him ?

SHRI S.A. SHAMIM It is a case of
a mysterious death.

SHRI SAMAR GUHA: We differ
from the political \iews of Shri Charu
Mazumdar but as he was honest to his own
conviction, his death has created a scare in
the country. It appears to us that the hon.
Minister is not posted with all the informa-
tion from the Government of West Bengal.
I want to know from Government one
thing. If the hon. Minister is posted with
the facts, he can reply here and now; other-
wise, he may supply the information as
early as possible after finding out the facts.
I want to know whether Shri Charu Mazum-
dar was in police custody for eleven days
before his death. During these 11 days, may
I know whether he was at the police head-
quarters at Lai Bazar or he was taken to
jail custody ? Further, during those 11 days,
for how many hours was he subjected to
interrogation ? Which were the agencies
that interrogated him ? May I know whether
before interrogation, medical advice was
taken on the question whether Shri Charu
Majumdar’s health wo Jd permit him to be
able to bear the strain of interrogation ?
Lastly, may I know whether his wife and
daughter made any complaint about his
death to the police.

SHRI K C. PANT : I have already
ir.d cnted that he was taken to Calcutta
pol'ce headquarters. As regards the question
how many hours he spent there and how
many hours he spent in the police lock-up,
I do not know how material it is to what
we are discussing now. I do not know the
purpose of the question in regard to the

time spent in either place.

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : The hon.
Minister has said that he does not know the
purpose of the question ..

SHRI K. C. PANT : An attempt is
being made to raise suspicion over a matter
on which factually there is no ground for
suspicion.

SHRI S. A. SHAMIM : Suspicion is
already there.

SHRI K. C. PANT : Some people are
congenitally suspicious.

SHRI S. A. SHAMIM : Because the
entire Government’s functioning ma.ves us
suspicious. Their conduct makes us sus-
picious.

SHRI K. C. PANT : The material
point is whether he had adequate medical
aid, and whether he was being looked after
by doctors. I have been told that besides
periodical examinations by heart specialists,
he was also being examined by the police
doctor. Somebody had asked for the name
of the heart specialist who attended on him.
Dr, Chandtkar is his name, and as regards
the hospital, I havea Iready mentioned that
it is the SSKM hospital. Apart from that,
Shri Charu Mazumdar was also being exami-
ned by the police doctor. Therefore, that is
the material point. Therefore, there is no
question of his not having been under
medical care. He was a heart patient. That
is the information. He was a chronic heart
patient. Therefore, the police doctors did
take the precaution of examining him
frequently. So, why should there be objec-
tion to that ?

So far as his wife and daughter are
concerred, 1 did indicate in my reply that
his w;fe and daughter met him. As far as
my knowledge goes, they have not made
any complaint, that is, the West Bengal
Government have not communicated any
complaint by them to me.

SHRI SAMAR GUHA : May I make
a submission to you ? I had asked a question
whether the hon. Minister had any informa-
tion on the point regarding the number of
hours for which he was subjected to interro-

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Written Answers 42

gation, and whether before interrogation,
medical advice was taken about whether he
would be able to bear the strain of the
interrogation/ If the hon. Minister has got
the information, he may tell us, or else he
can supply it at a later date. He has not
replied to this very relevent question.

SHRl K. C. PANT : I do not know
what the doctor told the people there after
each examination. The very fact that he
was under examination by a heart specialist
and that he was also being examined thrice
daily by the police doctor obviously shows
how much care the Government there was
taking to see that he was given proper
medical care. That is the point.

SHRI M. RAM GOPAL REDDY I
want a confirmation from Government ..

MR. SPEAKER No confirmation,
only a question.

SHRl M. RAM GOPAL REDDY : Has
any leader from Kashmir, including Sheikh
Abdullah, died in our custody ? (Inter-
ruptions)

MR. SPEAKER: l have already allo-
wed too many questions on this. I am
passing on to the next item.

SHRl PILOO MODY : I have asked
only one question this whole session.

MR. SPEAKER : Yes.

SHRl PILOO MODY : I do not
understand this questioning and answering
procedure which tries to evade the relevant
point. It has been admitted by the Minister
that Shri Mazumdar was an ill man, suffer-
ing from a very chronic disease called cardiac
asthma. Under the circumstances, it was
asked of the Minister how many hours of
police grilling and interrogation did he have.
This is very material to find out, because in
spite of the fact that thev knew his medical
condition, he was being interrogated not
only bV Ministers but by policemen. And
what methods were used, nobody knows. The
Minister ask*, how is it relevant to the
question ? This is the only relevant thing
whether they killed him by interrogation
(Interruption),

MR. SPEAKER : Order, order. No such
remarks should be made.

SHRI K.C. PANT : I have never said
whether it was relevant or not. I had only
given the relevant facts in answer to the
question about interrogation. My informa-
tion is that the interrogation was being
carried out only in brief spells because of
his weak and poor health. Thrice a day
doctors were seeing him. There was a heart
specialist who was attending on him when-
ever required. Therefore, the presumption is
that all those people must have taken the
precaution. I do not exactly know what the
specialist said; nor do I know exactly what
the doctors said. The facts speak for them-
selves. This is the submission I make.

SHRI R. V. BADE : As soon as Shri
Mazumdar wasjarrested by the police, he
must have been produced before the Magis-
trate and the Magistrate must have remanded
him to police or judicial custody. Was he
examined at that very time by the judiciary
or the Magistra e ?

SHRI K.C. PANT : Being a lawyer, my
hon friend knows the piocedure. So he
knows that he was remanded to police
custody.

SHRI R.V. BADE : He must have been
examined by the Magistrate.

SHRI K. C. PANT : Yes. The Magistrate
did remand him. He knows the procedure.
I had said in the blginning — he would have
known if he had listened to me carefully —
that on being remanded to police custody,
he continued to be under constant medical
attention and treatment, as advised by the
heart specialist.

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Supply of Tin Plates to Tin Can
Manufacturing Units

*249. SHRIK. SURY \NARAYANA:
Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES
be p'eased to state :

(a) the names of firms which have
been granted C. O. B. licences for fabri-
cating Tin containers for captive use with
a manufacturing capacity of 1000 tonnes
per annum and above during the current
year (upto 30th June, 1972) ; and

(b) whether any guidelines have been
down for the supply of tin plates to these
tin can-manufacturing units ?

THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND
MINES (SHRI S MOHAN KUMARA-
MANGALAM) ■ (a) During the current
year (up to 30th June, 1972) only two
C.O.B. (Carry on Business) licences for
the fabrication of tin containers we’t issued
to the Vanaspati Manufactuiers for their
captive use. The names of the firms are
as under : —

(0 M/s. Premier Vegetable Products
Lid , Jaipur.

(ii) M/s. Bhavnagar Vegetable Pro-
ducts Limited, Bhavnagar (Gujarat).

(b) No guidelines have been laid down
by Government for the supply of Tinplates
to different units. The distribution of
Tinplates is looked after by the Tinplate
Producers* Consultative Committee.

Reconvening of Geneva Type
Conference on Vietnam

*252. SHRI H. M. PATEL: Will the
Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be
pleased to state :

(a) whether the British Government
one of the Co-Chairmen of the Geneva
Conference on Vietnam, recently suggested
the reconvening of the Geneva type con-
ference m f

(b) the reaction of the Soviet Union
the other Co-Chairmen of the Geneva
Conference in regard to the British
suggestion; and

(c) the reaction of Government to the
British suggestion and whether there have
been initiatives fiom India for solving the
Vietnam problem ?

THF MINISTER OF EXTERNAL
AFFAIRS (SHRI SWARAN SINGH): (a) to
(c). According to the information revealed
in the House of Commons, the British
Government had made such a proposal to the
Soviet Union but the Soviet Union reportedly
did not agree with it. This is a matter
between the two Co-Chairmen and the
Government of India feels that there should
be agreement between them and Geneva
Conference members before any progress
can be made. Also it is Government of
India’s view that fighting must stop in
Vietnam first and a ceasefire arranged
before any such conference could be held.

German Technicians in Rourkcla
Steel Plant

*253. SHRI SHYAM SUNDER MOH-
APATRA : Will the Mimsier of STEEL
AND MINES be pleased to state the time
by which the German technicians working
in Rourkela Steel Plant are expected to
leave the Plant ?

THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND
MINES (SHRI S MOHAN KUMARA-
MANGALAM) : There are at pressent 10
German technicians at Rourkela Steel Plant.
The contracts of these Un individuals will
expire during the period September, 1972 —

January 1973.

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«ftt wr srfafatrr $ ?

47 Written Answers

AUGUST 17, 1972

Written Answers 45

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1970

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Industrial Accidents

*256. SHRI FATE SINGH RAO
GAEKWAD:

DR. KARNl SINGH:

Will the Minister of LABOUR AND
REHABILITATION be pleased to state:

(a) whether the incidence of industrial
accidents in the country has of late risen
considerably;

(b) if so, the total number of industrial
mishaps during the last three years and how
many of them proved fatal;

result of industrial accidents during the
above period; and

(d) the steps proposed to be taken to
improve the safety regulations ?

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND
REHABILITATION (SHRI R. K. KHAD1L-
KAR): (a) lo (c). A statement is laid on the
Table of the Sabha. The information regar-
ding total loss in terms of money is not
available.

(d) The Safety requirements laid down
in the State Factories Rules framed under
the Factories Act, 1948 and Regulations
framed under the Mines Act, 1952 are cons-
tantly reviewed, enlarged and improved upon
wherever considered nccessarry.

49 Written Answeri

SRAVANA 26, 1894 ( SAKA )

Written Answers SO

Statement

No. of accidents and man-days lost in factories covered by the Factories Act, 1948

Year

Fatal

Non-fatal

Total

No. of man-days lost
on account of non-fatal
accidents

1968

565

2,26,893

2,27,458

25,90,854

1969

618

2,61,997

2,62,615

29,87,587

1970

(Pro-

visional)

609

2,87,496

2,88,105

28,94,914

No. of accidents and man-days lost in mines covered by the Mines Act, 1952

No. of accidents

No. of

persons

Man days lost on account

Fatal

Serious

Killed

Seriously

injured

of Serious Injuries
Estimated

1969

Coal

211

1,650

232

1,717

97,869

Non-coal

861

886

49,616

1970

Coal

194

1,577

212

1,625

68,250

Non-coal

786

799

42,347

1971

Coal

199

1,451

231

1,535

79,820

Non-coal

7S9

813

39,837

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51 Written Answers

AUGUST 17, 1972

Written Answers 52

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Stoppage of Steel quota for

Agriculture Ministry

•258. SHRI NIHAR LASKAR :

SHRI C.K. CHANDRAPPAN :

Will the Minister of STEEL AND
MINES be pleased to state :

(a) whether his Ministry K as stopped th^
steel quota of the Agncirtture Ministry for
the last one year which was being supplied
for the la&t 25 years ;

(b) if so, the reasons therefor; and

THE MINISTER OF STEEL AND
MINES (SHRI S. MOHAN KUMARA-
MANGALAM)- (a) The system of allocation
of “quotas” was given up when the Steel
Distribution policy was revised in May 1970.
All despatches from the Main Producers are
now regulated in accordance with the
Priority allocations decided every quarter
by the Steel Priority Committee. The Prio-
rity requisitions sponsored by the Agricul-
ture Ministry are also given due considera-
tion by the Steel Priority Committee.

(b) and (c). Do not arise.

I.L.O. Programme of Research

•259.SHRI K.BALADHANDAYUTHAM:
Will the Minister of LABOUR AND
REHABILITATION be pleased to state :

(a) whether the International Labour
Conference has finalised a programme of
research and action to help developing
countries choose technologies offering the
best possibilities of balanced economic,
social and technical progress ;

(b) whether any such research and action
programme is to be taken up in India by
International Labour Organisation; and

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K. K.HADIL-
KAR) : (a) to (c). No such programme
has been finalised by the International
Labour Conference. It, however, parsed a
Resolution at its 57th Session (June 1972)
layingNdown guide-lines for dealing with
labour and social implications of automa-
tion and other technological developments
and requesting the Director General of the
I L O . inter alia , to provide the developing
countries at their request with suitable
technical and research assistance to ensure
positive results of the introduction of tach-
nolog. cal innovation The Resolution has
not been formally received by the Govern-
ment of Ind a nor has it been examined yet
b' the Government

Workers Problems regarding settlement of
claims and grant of Loans

•260 SHRI RAMAVATAR SHASTRI :
Will the Minister of LABOUR AND
REHABILITATION be pleased to state :

(a) whether the poor workers and
subscribers are faced with the problem of
settlement of claim or grant of loans be-
cause of the ignorance regarding the proce-
dure to fill in the forms;

(b) whether the desirability of getting
printed long hand — bills in the form of
notices regarding the procedure of getting
claims settled or loans granted and paste
them on the walls of the factories and
mines remotely situated as other notes are
pasted by the other departments under the
Mines Act and the Factories Act has been
considered; and

S3 ) Written Answers

SRAVANA 26, 1894 (SAJCA)

Written Answers 54

Conimissioners to meet the workers every-
day 'at a fixed time and hear their grievan-
ces like some Regional Commissioners who
have already started doing this ?

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K. KHADIL-
KAR) : The Provident Fund Authorities
have reported as under : —

(a) No such complaint has been received
in this behalf.

(b) Various forms including those for
settlement of Provident Fund claims, grant
of loans are, as a rule, printed bilingually
in English and in the Regional language.
It is therefore, not considered necessary to
get long hand-bills printed in the form of
notices and pasted on the walls of establish-
ments.

(c) Regional Commissioners generally meet
workers and others who seek interview
with them in connection with the Provident
Fund affairs and take suitable action on
their complaints. It does not appear necess-
ary to issue separate orders in this behalf.

Indo-Bangladesh consultations

2380. SHRI E. V. VIKHE PATIL : Will
Jhe Minister of EXTERNAL AFFAIRS be
pleased to state :

(a) whether Government propose to
have high level consultations with Bangla-
desh on issues involving the three nations
of the sub-continent, and

(b) if so, by what time a decision on
the matter is likely to* be taken ?

THE DEPUTY MINISTER IN THE
MINISTRY OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
(SHRI SURENDRA PAL SINGH) : (a) and
(b). Government is in constant touch with
the Government of Bangladesh on issues
common to India, Bangladesh and Pakistan.

Chief Engineer of a Public Under-
taking in Rajasthan caught Red-
Handed

2381*. SHRI CHANDRA SHEKHAR
SINGH :

SHRI HARI SINGH :

Will the Minister of STEEL AND
MINES be pleased to state :

(a) whether the Central Bureau of
Investigation have recently caught red han-
ded a Chief Engineer of a Public Underta-
king in Rajasthan for allegedly accepting
a Graft of Rs. 5000/— from a Calcutta firm
in a posh hotel of New Delhi;

(b) if so, the names and other details
of the persons taking and giving graft and
the firms to which these persons belonged;
and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF STFEL AND MINES
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) and (b).
Yes, Sir. The Central Bureau of Investiga-
tion received a complaint from a represent-
ative of M/s Damodar Enterprises Ltd.,
Calcutta alleging that Shri Jacob C. Korah,
Chief Engineer (Civil), Khe*ri Copper
Project, was demanding a sum of Rs.5000 /-
for having shown favours in restoring the
contract as well as for acceptance of future
supplies to be made by the firm without
any objection. Accordingly, the C. B, I.
laid a trap and caught the official concerned
red handed while accepting the bribe from
the complainant at Akbar Hotel, New Delhi
on 16.6.72.

(c) The case is under investigation by
the Central Bureau of Investigation and
appropriate action will be taken on receipt
of their report.

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AUGUST 17, 1972

Written Answers 56

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SRAVANA 26, 1894 (SAKA)

Written Answers 55

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AUGUST 17, 1972

Written Answers 60

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Survey for Semi-Precious Stones
in Trivandrum *

2386. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : Will
the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be
pleased to state :

(a) whether Government are aware
that in aU over Trivandrum District there
are reported occurence of Semi-Precious
stones and Private parties are working round
the clock to extract them for the last five
years;

(b) whether any investigation has been
mgde jon this by the Geological Survey of
India; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a). The
sporadic occurrences of semi-precious stone
namely chrysoberyl in parts of Nedumangad
taluk in Trivandrum disrict have been
known to Government. Government of
Kerala are aware of attempts of illicit
mining of previous stones in the area and
have also taken action against persons
engaged in illicit mining.

(tO and (cL Investigation for gem
quality chrysoberyl was taken up by Geolo-
gical Survey of India in parts Quilon and

Trivandrum districts during the field seasons
1962-63, 1964-65 and 1969-70. The investi-
gation has revealed that the chrysoberyl.
appears to be accessory mineral in the
pegmatites traversing the chrystalline rock
and as detrital mineral in pebble beds and
gravels. These investigations indicate that
large scale exploitation of these stones in
the area may not be economically viable.

Defective functioning of Kerala Circle
of geological Survey of India

2387. SHRI VAYALAR RAVI : Will
the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be
pleased to stale :

(a, whether Government have received
any representation regarding the defective
functioning of the Kerala Circle of the
Geological Survey of India; and

(b) if so, the steps taken to streamline
the administrative set up of this institution
in Kerala ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a). Yes,
Sir. A representation has been received
recently.

(b) The matter is under examination.

Bihari and Non-Bihari feelings among
workers of Hindustan Copper
Limited

2388. SHRI SWARAN SINGH SOKHI:
Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES
be pleased to state :

(a) whether the officers of Hindustan
Copper Limited at Mohubhandar, Ghat-
sila, Bihar are indulging in local politics
and creating the feelings of Bihari and
non -Bihari amongst the workers ; and

(b) if so, the action Government propose
to take in the matter ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a). No
Sir.

(b) Does not arise.

4l Written Answers SR AVAN A 2 6, 1894 (SAKA) Written Answer* 62

Mining of Bauxite at Nileshwar (Kerala)

2389. SHRI RAMACHANDRAN KAD-
ANNAPPALLI: Will the Minister of STEEL
AND MINES be pleased to state the stage
at which the investigation of mining Bauxite
at Nileshwar in Cannanore District, Kerala
State stands now 7

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN): Exploration for
bauxite in 4 blocks at Nileswar in Cinna-
nore district of Kerala is in progress since
October, 1970. Probable reserves of 1.76
million tonnes of Bauxite with 40 to 60%
alumina content has tentatively been estimat-
ed in Block I where detailed drilling has
been completed. Pitting for confirmation of
drilling date is in progress. Detailed invest-
gation by drilling in Block II is in p ogress
and Bauxite horizon up to 6 35 metres thick-
ness has been intersected in 23 boreholes.
Preliminary test drilling in Blocks III and
IV has been competed and follow up
work is in progress

Mercury deposits in Kerala

2390. SHRI RAM\CHANDRAN
KAD NNNAPALLJI . Will the Minister of
STEEL AND MINES be pleased to state:

(a) whether Government have received
the report of the Geological Survey of India
regarding the investigation of the mercury
dpeosits in Badagara in Kerala; and

(b) if so, the stage at which the investi-
gation is progressing ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI
SHAHANAWAZ KHAN) : a) and (b). Pre-
liminary investigation by Geological Survey
of India for mercury near Badagara has been
completed. The investigation has not reveal-
ed the presence of any promising zone in
this area. The Report is under preparation.

-Unemployed Automobile Engineering
Diploma Holders

2391. SHRI ONKAR LAL BERWA: Will
the M nister of LABOUR AND REHABILI-
TATION be pleased to state:

(a) the number of unemployed Automo-
bile Engineering Diploma holders on the
live register of Employment Exchanges rn
the country during the last three years, year-
wise;

(b) the number of such unemp'oyed
engineers in Delhi; and

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND
REHABILITATION (SHRI R.K. KHADIL-
KAR): (a) and (b) The number of diploma
holders in automobile engineering on the
Live Register as at the end of each year is
given below:

Year

All-India

Delhi

1969

524

1970

625

1971

716

(c) In addition to the large number of
employment opportunities generated as a
lesultof implementation of various develop-
ment programmes included in the Fourth
Five Year Plan, increasing number of job
opportunities are expected to be created by
the Special Employment Oriented Schemes
and Programmes taken up since the year
1970-71 including programmes for the bene-
fit of educated persons initiated during the
year 1971-72.

In the Union Budget for 1972-73 an
aggregate provision of Rs. 125 crores has
been made for Special Welfare Schemes.
This amount includes a sum of Rs. 60 crores
for Special Employment Programmes which
woul$i be for the continuation of the various
emp’oyment programmes taken up in 1971-72
and for organising new programmes both in
rura' and urban areas. These schemes will
benefit the unemployed including the auto-
mobt'e engineers in the country as well as
in the Union Territory of Delhi.

Contract of expension of Coke Ovens
at Rourkela Steel Plant

2392. SHRI SWARAN SINGH SOKHI:

Will the Minister of STEEL AND MINES
be pleaded to state :

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AUGUST 17, 1972

Written Answers 64

(a) whether the expansion of half battery
of coke ovnes at Rourkela Steel Plant has
been given on contract to a foreign firm, be-
cause the Central Design Bureau, has failed
to undertake the job;

(b) if so, the total amount of the whole
contract and the foreign exchange involved;
and

(c) the amount as penalty the Hindu-
stan Steel Limited propose to impose on the
contractor, if they fail to complete the
construction of the coke oven within the
stipulated time ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES
(SHRI SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) Letter
of intent for construction of an additional
half Coke Oven Battery at Rourkela Steel
Plant has been issued in favour of M/s.Otto
India Private Ltd. The question of Central
Engineering and Design Bureau failing to
undertake this job does not arise as it is
not intended for undertaking construction
jobs.

(b) According to the final quotation, the
total contract value is Rs. 4.222 crores,
including a foreign exchange component of
Rs. 1.307 crores. Negotiations are still
going on in regard to specifications of the
fire bricks to be used. The result of these
may affect the value of the contract.

(c) M/s. Otto India Private Ltd., have
accepted Hindustan Steel Limited’s general
condition of contract regarding penalty for
late delivery, which prescribes liquidated
damages of 1% of the contract value for
each completed month of delay, subject to
a maximum of 3% of thee on tract value. The
party is also required to pay penalties fox
non fulfilment of performance guarantees
subject to a ceiling of 3% of the total
contract value. However, the overall ceiling
on penalities for shortfall in performance
guarantees and liquidated damages due to
failure to complete the work in time, will
be 5% of the total contract value.

Implementation of Coal Wage Board
recommendations by Coal Mine
Owners in Assam, Nagaland
and Meghalaya

2394. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will
the Minister of LABOUR AND REHABI-
LITATION be pleased to state :

(a) the names of the Coal mine owners
of Assam, Nagaland and Meghalaya who
have not yet implemented the Coal Wage
Board Award; and

(b) the steps taken against them ?

THE MINISTER OF LABOUR AND
REHABILITATION (SHRT R.K. KHADIL-
KAR) : (a) The names of the Coal mines
and the owners are as below : —

SI. No.

1 .

2 .

6 .

8 .

Colliery

Name of owner

Tipong Colliery

M/s. Assam Railways & Trading Co. Ltd.,
Assam.

Ledo Colliery

— do —

Bargalai Colliery

— do —

Dilli Colliery

M/s. Dilli Collieries (Assam) Ltd.

Koilajan Colliery

M/s. Koilajan Collieries Ltd., Assam.

Jeypore Colliery

Jeypore Collieries (P) Ltd., Assam.

Thanjinath Colliery

Shri Ramanand Shah, P.O. Lebang, Shillong.

Shilwata Colliery

Shri H.P. Dutta, Dipali House, Shillong.

(b) The recommendations are not enfor- mentation of the Wage Board recommenda-
ceable statutorily and implementation is tions by collieries of M/s. Assam Railways
secured largely through persuasion and and Trading Co. Ltd., Assam has been
advice. A disputes relating to noo-imple- referred for adjudication.

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Written Answer 66

Survey of underground Minerals in States

2395. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will
the Minister of STEEL AND MINES be
pleased to state :

(a) whether any survey of underground
minerals has been conducted in Assam,
Nagaland, Meghalaya, Manipur, Tripura
and Union Territories of Mizoram and
Arunachal;

(b) if so, the particulars thereof, mineral-
wise and State-wise and Union Territory-
wise; and

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINISTRY OF STEEL AND MINES (SHRI
SHAHNAWAZ KHAN) : (a) and (b). A
statement is laid on the Table of the House.

(c) In Assam, coal and oil aie being
exploited and a cement factory is being set
up at Bokajan. In Meghalaya, limestone for
cement plant at Chcrrapunji and silhmamte
in Sonapahar arc being exploited Limestone
investigations are being carried out by the
Geological Survey of India for the proposed
cement plant in Manipur. Government of
Tripura are considering to establish small
scale glass factory and ceiamic factory in
the State.

Statement

As a result of investigations carried out
by the Geological Survey of India in Assam,
Nagaland, Meghalaya, Manipur, Tnpuia
and Union Territories of Mizoram and
Aiunachal, the minerals located in these
States and Union Territories are given
below : — '

Assam

Coal. Investigations have recorded coal
at Koilajan (0.6 million tonnes) in United
North Cachar and Mikii Hills district, at
Delli-Jeypore (20 million tonnes) and at
Makum (191 million tonnes) in the districts
of Lakhimpur and Sibsagar.

Clay. Deposits of clay have been located in

Mikir Hills and the reserves have been
estimated in the order of 6 million tonnes.

Iron Ore. Estimated reseves of iron ore
aie of the order of 50 million tonnes jn
Goalpara district.

Limestone. Sizable deposits of lime-
stone have been located at Koilajan,Garam-
pam, Mcyang Disa, Jorapgaon end Bar
Harigaon in United Mikir and North Cachar
Hills district and along the boundary zone
between Sibsagar and Nowgonj districts.

Lepidohte Minor occurrence of lepido-
lite reported from Goalpara district.

Petroleum . Important oilfields are at
Digboi, Naharkatiya and Moran in Lakhim-
pur district.

Meghalaya

Coal . The reserves of coal estimated
are of the order of 422 Million tonnes in
Garo Hills and 67 million tonnes in Khasi
and Jaintia Hills.

Clay. About 100 million tonnes of days
have been estimated in Garo Hills and
about 20 million tonnes in Khasi-Jamtia
Hills

Copper-lead-zinc. Geological and geo-
physical work carried out in the Aumpyrtha
area in United Khasi and Jaintia Hills
district have revealed a small zone of copper-
lead-zinc mineralisation of uneconomic
dimensions.

Limestone. Fx tensive deposits of good
quality limestone have been located near
Therriaghat-Shclla, Cherrapunji and at
Nongkhalih in United Khasi and Jaintia
Hills district.

Sillimanite : Sillimanite is being exploited
from Sonapahar deposit.

Glass sand and occurrences of phospha-
tic nodules have also been located in Khasi
Hills.

Manipur

Limestone. Deposits of limestone have
been located near Ukhrul, Hungdung,

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Lambert and at places in Teagnoupal subdi-
vision, Tfte total reserves of limestone
occurring at these places have been estimated
at about 3 million tonnes. Detailed investi-
gation for limestone is being continued in
Manipur.

Occurances of lignite in Jiribum sub*
division, clays associated with lignite and
salt spring in Thoubal sub-division, nickel
and chromite in Moreh have been investi-
gated. So far the results are not encouraging.

Nagaland

Coal. The reserves of coal estimated in
Naga Hills are of the order of 55 million
tonnes.

Tripura

Clay and glass sand. The principal
minerals deposits of Tripura are clays and
glass sand, the estimated reserves of which
are of the order of 54.000 tonnes and 310,000
tonnes respectively.

Minor uneconom'c occurrences of lignite
and a number of gas seepages were aho
located.

Arunachal Pradesh

Coal. About 91 million tonnes of coal
have been estimated in Namchik-Namphuk
coalfield in Tirap district. Coal has also
been located in parts of Siang and ICameng
districts.

Limestone . Reserves of limestone esti-
mated at Tiding are of the order of 50
million tonnes.

Investigations have also located occur-
rences of clays in Lohit district, Marble in
Siang district, and lignite in Subansiri
district, graphite in Lihit district, copper,
lead and oil seepages in Tirap frontier and
iron ore and mica in Subansiri district.

Mizoram

Geological mapping aud preliminary
mineral investigation are being carried out
in parts of Mizoram.

Godowns of Hindustan Steel Limited
in Assam

2396. SHRI ROBIN KAKOTI : Will
the minister of STEEL AND MINES be
pleased to state :

(a) the names of the godowns, if any,
of the Hindustan Steel Limited in Assam;
and

(b) the names of the appointed agents,
if any, of the Hindustan Steel Limited, to
sell its products in Assam ?

THE MINISTER OF STATE IN THE
MINIST

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